you mean if the recent lunar ingress already has mars or saturn angular in prime vertical mundoscope, ecliptical square to the asc, and square to mc in RA (east point west point) i dont include altitude conj. if it is present?Jim Eshelman wrote: ↑Sun May 14, 2017 11:53 amTake all the fires listed in SMA, calculate the most recent lunar ingress, and see how many have Mars or Saturn fit your criteria. Keep the Mars and Saturn totals separate from each other, and break them down one other way: Isolate those where Mars or Saturn is already foreground from those where Mars or Saturn is not. It should prove illuminating (that sample of charts rarely lets me down).
of course, i would never mention altitude conj. with meridian if the ingress or natal chart already has it angular in other frameworks?
one other thing for fire charts i want to ask you
when you say "recent lunar ingress" that means i can go back 3 lunar charts, for example if the event happened when the moon was in capricorn, and you used a non-dormant CANLunar ingress, i can use LIBLunar if i find altitude conjunctions with the meridian there and if i didnt find them in caplunar?
that means Liblunar is the most recent active lunar ingress?
are we on the same page?