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Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:18 am

[The folliowing interpretations are from The New Instant Astrologer as a starting point for the other information I want to add here. I'll eventually be adding statistical results from my notebooks, other notes and clarifications I've accumulated over the decades, key interpretations from other sources that I've found valuable, etc.]

INDEX/LINKS TO INNER PLANET ASPECTS NOTES
Mercury-Venus http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1212
Mercury-Mars http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1213
Mercury-Jupiter http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1214
Mercury-Saturn http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1215
Mercury-Uranus http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1216
Mercury-Neptune http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1217
Mercury-Pluto http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1218

Venus-Mars http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1220
Venus-Jupiter http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1221
Venus-Saturn http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1222
Venus-Uranus http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1223
Venus-Neptune http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1224
Venus-Pluto http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1225

Mars-Jupiter http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1227
Mars-Saturn http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1228
Mars-Uranus http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1229
Mars-Neptune http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1230
Mars-Pluto http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1231
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Mercury-Venus aspects

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MERCURY-VENUS
Gracious expression, charmer, persuasive, maybe even a “sweet talker.” Light-hearted, pleasant. Delights in learning (learns easily). Probably a happy childhood; retains a playful, childlike sense, a charm of immaturity.

TNIA: Much talent and potential for artistic expression is shown by this combination, for the native's sense of form and design is pronounced. He is capable of expressing himself graciously or poetically, and his words carry the power of persuasion. He may be known as a "sweet talker," and will surely be recognized for his light-hearted manner and pleasantness. Learning comes easily. He will most likely have a happy childhood.

NOTE May 2017: I'm now questioning the whole "artistic expression" side. Good in theory and history, doesn't show in people I actually know or any stats I know. Need to assess against famous examples.

REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Kathy Bates, Ian Brady, Sir William Hamilton


THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Mercury adds intellect, calculation, perception, and voice to one’s love nature, romantic and pleasure style, social urges; awareness of beauty and harmony, and “femininity.”
Venus soothes, harmonizes, and gives pleasure through one’s personal communication and expression style and cognitive style.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
SEXTILES: William McKinley, William H. Taft, Herbert Hoover, Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Mercury-Mars aspects

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MERCURY-MARS
Mind is high-powered, quick, dynamic, strategic. Physical and mental responses are both fast. Forthright, candid, speaks directly, independent of thought, enjoys a good argument (mental/verbal competition). Pre-dominantly a creative type. Quick wit, edgy sense of humor. Talent with hands. Prone to irritability, nervous frustration, fault-finding, obstinacy, opinionation, high vulnerability to addiction.

TNIA: The mind of this person is forceful and dynamic, operating at a rapid pace. In fact, physical and mental responses are both fast, and he is probably quite active. He speaks directly rather than "beating around the bush," and enjoys a good argument (a chance for mental/verbal competition), but his rapid tongue may also amaze with a brilliant sense of humor. Mechanical ability, talent working with one's hands, and a strategic mind are among the more practical traits sponsored by this configuration. However, it can also lead to irritability and nervous frustration, fault-finding, obstinacy, and opinionation.

GARTH ALLEN wrote:Now the thing that characterizes Martian and Mercurian personalities in general is their excess of nervous energy, visible in their everyday habits, attitudes, and mannerisms. Talkativeness is characteristic, with an endless flow of opinions about everything under the sun. There is also an evident inclination toward youthfulness and what psychologists call "childish regressions" in such types... We should also call attention to... the aspect activity involved at the births of creative people, primarily artists and sculptors... In substance this means that Mercury and Mars influences in combination are primarily a "creative" factor, conducive toward talent of one kind or another.


REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Sean Connery, David Frost, Mata Hari, Lee Harvey Oswald, Samuel Adams, Sen. Edward Kennedy
[Note the heightened oratory and effectiveness of voice.]


THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Mercury adds intellect, calculation, perception, and voice to one’s energy levels, aggressive tendencies, “masculinity,” and passions.
Mars pursues aggressively, energizes, enflames, and coarsens one’s personal communication and expression style and cognitive style.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: John Q. Adams, John F. Kennedy, Richard M. Nixon
TRI/SEX: James K. Polk, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Bill Clinton


STATISTICS wrote:"Talent aspect." Creative people, primarily painters and sculptors (Bradley)

Very low for professional athletes (Bradley)

Alcoholism (Bradley)

Very common for violent criminals per Carter, who wrote that Mercury-Mars or Mercury-Uranus aspects appeared in almost every chart.

A very common chart factor for men with frequent erectile failure (Eshelman & King)

In employment start charts, only 1 of the 15 examples were rated poor - they were productive, got their job done, were busy! (Quellas)

Notebook #93 observations: (CONJUNCTION) Two types stand out in my notebooks: One type, which "plays better with other children," is the creative artist. The other type, without overt artistic expression, is very dialectic and conflictual, and seems to need ongoing sparring in their community for them to be comfortable.
(OPPOSITION-SQUARE) All strongly independent of thought and word.
(TRINE-SEXTILE) Charmers!
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Mercury-Jupiter aspects

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MERCURY-JUPITER
Love of ideas and learning. Easy “way with words,” comfortable speaking, reassuring in speech and manner. Well-formed speech has marks of a good education (whether true or not). Good-tempered, kind; may seem shallower than they are. Optimistic, religious-style thinking, e.g., “gambler’s roll” (don’t disturb their “hope & vision” with contradictory facts!). Good business potential (perhaps from raw luck more than skill) and always looking for the next opportunity or lucky break. Poorly suited to fixed schedule or routine.

TNIA: High intelligence. Academic mental style. Has a natural "way with words" and talent for oratory, and is reassuring in speech & manner. Speech is cultured, refined, suggesting a good education. Usually quiet, reserved (perhaps reclusive), good-tempered, kind. Superb business potential.

Notebook #93 observations: (OPPOSITION-SQUARE) Flourish in an environment that is educational or otherwise nurtures their minds. - Can almost bizarrely appear to be shallow and flighty and "empty," even though that isn't a real measure of their intelligence or other capabilities. (TRINE-SEXTILE) Intelligent with a well-read (but not particularly scholarly) edge.
GARTH ALLEN wrote:People born with Mercury-Jupiter aspects in their horoscopes are possessed by a desire to assimilate new information continually, enlarge the scope of their knowledge. Consequently, they have out-reaching personalities. They tend toward optimism and a distaste for routine and are forever postponing decisions in anticipation of lucky breaks which, miraculously, do happen, only to lead toward a renewed expectancy of the future. This is why many of them view the prospect of marriage as an obstacle to their free-wheeling sojourn through life.
GARTH ALLEN wrote:Mercury-Jupiter... endows a thirst for intellectual expansion while at the same time instilling a natural respect for the amenities and protocol - two penchants essentially alien to each other no matter what the dean claims.
Barack Obama wrote:If I hadn't gone into politics... the challenges of creating a business and making it work would probably be the thing that was most interesting to me. [Mercury opposite Jupiter is his most distinctive aspect. - JAE]
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Woody Allen, Jim Carrey, Jackie Chan, Brigitte Bardot, Paula Abdul, Karen Carpenter, Hugo Chavez, King Henry IV, Pablo Picasso [and numerous eminent designers]

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Mercury adds intellect, calculation, perception, and voice to one’s socialization, response to social expectations, need to be included, style of gregarious expression, and need for the highest and best.
Jupiter enhances, qualifies, instills confidence in (can over inflate), and draws self-valuation from one’s personal communication and expression style and cognitive style.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: John F. Kennedy, Richard Nixon
OPP/SQR: Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Barack Obama
TRI/SEX: George Washington, James K. Polk, Herbert Hoover, Dwight D. Eisenhower

STATISTICS wrote:Few murderers (Bradley); therefore apparently high frustration tolerance.

Common among lifelong eminent bachelors (Bradley)

Virtually absent in my personal collection of psychotherapist charts.

77% of rape victims (Davis). However, that was 93% of the murdered rape victims and only 65% of those who survived.
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Mercury-Saturn aspects

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MERCURY-SATURN
Organizes and formats information in orderly arrangements. (Often blazingly quick thinkers once the framework is established; cf. a spreadsheet.) Methodical, logical, often routinized thinking processes. Skeptical, scrutinizing (distrustful). Obstinate in the absence of new evidence. Hesitant until oriented, then decisive, e.g., learning starts slowly, then catch up quickly. Gifted with considerable mental power, but easily discouraged (doubting). Treats life seriously. Needs to learn how to play.

TNIA: These people are able to organize and "format" information in orderly arrangements. Their thinking processes are methodical and highly logical, though often weighted down by routine. Skepticism is a strength, but obstinacy and narrow-mindedness can be difficult on others. there is a shyness and hesitancy to communicate openly, so this person may have few close friends. Often learning processes get off to a slow start, but they tend to catch up quickly. Though gifted with considerable mental potential, he is easily discouraged. He takes life far too seriously, and seem to have let his childhood slip by unlived. He needs to learn how to play! (ADD: Tendency to be "bad-mouthed" by others.)
GARTH ALLEN wrote:Mercury-Saturn people... are security-minded and find contentment in settling down to the routine and restrictive nature of married life. Instead of a habitual expectancy of the future windfall [of Mercury-Jupiter], they are not psychologically inclined to heed the call of adventure or the beck of Lady Luck, for they are cautious to the point where the future appears dismal to them - and will be unless they store up grain against the day of famine. In other words, while they may not be chin-dragging pessimists, there is something in their Mercury-Saturn complex which seeks insurance for the physical and assurance for their hesitant minds. Marriage - with its attendant overtones of economic responsibility - and parenthood - with its automatic guarantees, in the average case, of security in old age - come as a natural bent to the Mercury-Saturn way of thinking.
THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Mercury adds intellect, calculation, perception, and voice to one’s way of facing life’s struggles, areas of insecurity, feelings of inadequacy, and personal autonomy needs.
Saturn structures, formats, inhibits, frustrates, and experiences inadequacy and thus over-compensation concerning one’s personal communication and expression style and cognitive style.

Notebook #93 observations: (OPPOSITION-SQUARE) Personal insecurity and self-doubt is a significant feature. (Possibly also present, but less reliably, with the Conjunction.)

U.S. PRESIDENTS
OPP/SQR: John Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes
TRI/SEX: Gerald R. Ford

STATISTICS wrote:Strongest Mercury aspect for 99 heads of states (Eshelman)

Low incidence among lifelong eminent bachelors (Bradley)

Least represented aspect among rape victims (13%)

In employment start charts, most common Mercury aspect, agbout 50-50 good/bad rating - workers displayed both the good and bad sides of Mercury-Saturn (Quellas)
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Mercury-Uranus aspects

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MERCURY-URANUS
Independent thinker. Curiosity and investigative spirit in most things. Mind unfettered by formality and standards, solves problems and integrates data more intuitively. Rejects linearity, lacks rigor in learning. Many interests, diverse, often unusual (including astrology or occultism). Speech engages others’ attention, usually has something interesting to say; challenges convention or authority, dares to speak despite consequences. Gentle rebellious behavior (“bad boy/girl”) seems rooted in, “Don’t tell me how to think.” Socially odd, but not ostracized for it.

TNIA: An individual born under these influences has a mind unfettered by formality and standard practice. He evinces a lack of rigidity in scholastic matters, and leans toward investigative, futuristic fields such as science. There is originality and sparkle in his speech. He is hardly ever at a loss for words, daring to speak up on any occasion with disregard of the consequences. He can be witty and clever. A variety of interests grab his attention which could lead to dissipation if he does not have self-discipline. Nervous problems are likely. [ADD: Investigative spirit in most areas of their lives.]
GARTH ALLEN wrote:In Mercury-Uranus we meet a mind that is ever on the lookout for contradiction, because the coupling instills a Freedom From Stereotype. Enjoying every challenge to his ingenuity, the native is often very handy with his hands. Naturally free of a sense of loyalty to teacher and despising scholasticism as such, the Mercury-Uranus individual tries always to view things materialistically, even though he may believe otherwise, for it is important to him that autistic thinking never be allowed to fog realities. There is danger, though, of superficiality and of too easily getting sidetracked through lack of sustaining faith. He takes pleasure in startling with lurid words and unusual presentations. Mercury-Uranus is the Alibi Ike complex personified: it can invent excuses and clever reasons for anything on the spur of the moment - and get believed instantly. In a way, its very lack of rigidity, its freedom from stereotyped formulas, makes Mercury-Uranus a desirable configuration.
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES:
Leonardo DiCaprio, Arseni Hall, Jimi Hendrix, Heidi Fleiss, John Maynard Keynes,
Henri Matisse, Billy Jean King

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Mercury adds intellect, calculation, perception, and voice to one’s individualistic concept of self and avenues of excitement (and how it is pursued).
Uranus impersonalizes, unshackles, awakens, stimulates, and adds freedom from structure or inhibition to one’s personal communication and expression style and cognitive style.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: James Madison, Grover Cleveland
OPP/SQR: Millard Fillmore, Jimmy Carter
TRI/SEX: Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Rutherford B. Hayes, Woodrow Wilson, Lyndon B. Johnson

STATISTICS wrote:The only Mercury aspect where Siderealists are more common than Tropicalists (Eshelman)

Very common for violent criminals (Carter) - he wrote that Mercury-Mars or Mercury-Uranus was present in almost every chart in the sample.

M.C. Jain found this almost always present for "gays and other deviants." There is very little to suggest this in my list, though an interestly high number of bisexuals do show. Suspect it is "investigative spirit."
Notebook #93 observations: Some indication that they don't deeply connect to people and groups, and do better when they can participate from a distance.
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Mercury-Neptune aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:21 am

MERCURY-NEPTUNE
Hyper-responsive to environment and perceptions, extreme sensitivity to sensory impressions (may include psychism). Magnifies trivialities, fixates on particulars (often perfectionists); thus, often uncanny memories. Loves puzzle- or problem-solving, often in fantasy modelling; gets much pleasure and psychological relief from fantasied problem solving. However, commonly avoids own real problems by obsessing over fantasy problems. Dreamers, story-tellers, can enthuse-enroll others and convince someone of almost anything. Many adapt readily to systematized thought-modes of math and science.

TNIA: These people are over-responsive to their environments. Their accentuated sensitivity to all that is going on around them (which may cause some psychic sensitivity) is often a disadvantage, for they react strongly to sounds, smoke, and other odors, etc. Many have uncanny powers of retention,bordering on a "photographic memory." They are dreamers with the ability to enthuse others and can convince someone of almost anything, whether it is true or not. Many adapt readily to the systematized modes of thought found in mathematics and science.

FURTHER NOTES:
The mind is one which enjoys solving problems - as long as the "risks" entailed are safe. Lewin spoke of "imaginary locomotions" which tend to show in the OPPOSITION, SQUARE, SEMI-SQUARE, and SESQUI-SQUARE. The person creates a fantasy world wherein he can create a whole series of problems which he can enjoy solving. (The danger would come when that world becomes more real than the "real world.") They solve problems like crazy, but so often these "problems" exist for no one other ht an themselves. They get vicarious pleasure form fantasized problem-solving. They only want to play with a stacked deck (in their own favor).
GARTH ALLEN wrote:Mercury-Neptune often magnifies trivialities out of all proportion and thus is often found in the charts of those described as perfectionists.
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Pres. Herbert Hoover, Robert Altman, Miles Davis, Maurice Gibb, Robin Gibb, Simone de Beauvoir, Nelson Rockefeller, Christian Dior

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Mercury adds intellect, calculation, perception, and voice to one’s imagination and fantasy, mode of reality fabrication, sensual indulgence, and response to temptation.
Neptune exaggerates, diffuses, confuses, distorts, infuses with fantasy, hyper-sensitizes, atrophies, and withers one’s personal communication and expression style and cognitive style.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: Franklin Pierce
OPP/SQR: Calvin Coolidge, Herbert Hoover, Ronald Reagan
TRI/SEX: Rutherford B. Hayes, Woodrow Wilson, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Bill Clinton
The hard aspects show presidents whose policies seriously damaged the economy - which did much better under the soft aspect presidents.

STATISTICS wrote:Murderers (Bradley), thus probably low frustration tolerance.

Dominant "in the charts of actors, teachers and others who rely upon memorization for their livelihoods" (Bradley), from which he concluded it is an aspect of excellent memory.

Suicides (Bradley)

79% of murdered rape victims (Davis) - counting transits and progressions, it was present for 100% of all rape incidents studied. In every studied rape case (murdered or surviving), if there was a Mercury-Saturn aspect, there was a closer Mercury-Neptune aspect.

Frequent for prostitutes (Eshelman)

(Ancdotal observation:) Very common (almost every chart) of those who visited Indianapolis "Psychic Holiday" (they came by to get their charts done).
Notebook #93 observations: (CONJUNCTION-OPPOSITION-SQUARE) More exploration is needed here before I can be as specific as I would like; but they seem to be very able-seeming people who turn out to have very colorful, complex, and obstinate psychological problems. They are never what they seem on the surface, definitely much deeper and more complex. Though distinctly pathological, their pathologies are usually so deeply rooted, so much a part of their life long before adulthood, that these do not necessarily spill over to cause harm on the people around them.
(TRINE-SEXTILE) Minds very curious about occultism.
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Mercury-Pluto aspects

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MERCURY-PLUTO
Thinking is individual, unusual, outlier, perhaps branching to bizarre, little-explored topics. Investigative, seeks primal (seed) causes, thinks deeply about things. Mind may skirt the cliff-edge of normalcy (may slip off): acute enthusiasm, possible burnout. Extremely excitable, especially about inquiries and discoveries. Impatient (irritable in the face of obstacles; tolerates frustration poorly). Instinct for abstract mathematics (manifests in com-posers, chess players, physicists).

TNIA: Boundless enthusiasm is exuded by these people, but they can burn themselves out. They are generally very excited in speech and may tend to frequent exaggeration. Their thinking is along independent, unusual lines, usually branching off into bizarre, unexplored fields in search of some Prime Cause of existence, always seeking to integrate intellect with some greater source of understanding. They are born detectives. If their impatient enthusiasms run up against obstacles they can become quite irritable, and "nervous problems" are a distinct possibility. [ADD: Somewhat low frustration tolerance.]

REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Pres. George W. Bush, Georges Clemenceau, Dakota Fanning, Whitney Houston, Heidi Fleiss, Galileo, Claudia Schiffer, Shaquille O'Neal, Dennis Rodman

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Mercury adds intellect, calculation, perception, and voice to one’s “Get away from it all” urge, need to be independent of cultural trappings and labels, and search for existential meaning.
“All or nothing” Pluto strains, either strongly intensifies or thoroughly diminishes, and creates powerful need that to be free of others’ arbitrary limitations concerning one’s personal communication and expression style and cognitive style.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: Abraham Lincoln, Harry S Truman, George W. Bush
OPP/SQR: Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Richard M. Nixon

STATISTICS wrote:Murderers (Bradley); therefore, week frustration tolerance

Speech afflictions (Fagan-Firebrace)

(Anecdotal observation:) It seems to show an extraordinary number of times for composers and I think of it as an explicitly musical combination. In the examples of great composers it may be showing as an intrinsic element of genius (cf. great composers, abstract mathematicians, and chess grand masters - no real difference!).

Notebook #93 observations: They think deeply about things. Almost a silent brooding about philosophical and ethical issues and about matters of their own behavior; thus a little slow to act strongly and decisively (from second-guessing themselves).
(CONJUNCTION) An emphasis on overkill. Can become almost obsessive about an area of interest, leading either to success or burn-out.
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Venus-Mars aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:22 am

VENUS-MARS
Passion (in all senses), feels powerfully about things. Strong sex-ual passions mature early, continue late, rarely encumbered by too many conditions. Broadly fun-loving, socially active, loves romance: interesting, likable, sociable, horny people. Relationships, often picked for ferocity, easily hit conflict, strain, or burnout. (More likely homicidal than suicidal.)

TNIA: Physical activity in any form, be it athletics, dancing, or love-making, gives these individuals particular pleasure. They are usually very active socially; their passions tend to mature at an early age and continue late into life. Such a person is very eager for romantic involvement. Sexual desire is interlocked with the need for tenderness and gentleness. [ADD: Emotional strength. Passion (in all senses). Relationship strains.]
GARTH ALLEN wrote:[They] take a natural pleasure in "life and the flesh thereof" and are not very apt to spite the soul by abusing the body. The reverence for the physical phase of living which characterizes the Venus-Mars types leads many of them to an avid interest in good health and many become physical culturists.
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: John Cleese, Joan Collins, Adolf Hitler, Auguste Rodin, Martina Navratilova

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Mars pursues aggressively, energizes, enflames, and coarsens one’s love nature, romantic and pleasure style, social urges; awareness of beauty and harmony, and “femininity.”
Venus soothes, harmonizes, and gives pleasure through one’s energy levels, aggressive tendencies, “masculinity,” and passions.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: Woodrow Wilson
OPP/SQR: James Madison, William Henry Harrison, Jimmy Carter
TRI/SEX: Rutherford B. Hayes, Ronald Reagan

STATISTICS wrote:Prominent for murderers both in Bradley's study and in the one I did several years ago. This may imply weak frustration tolerance.

Exceptionally absent among suicides (Bradley) - any destructiveness, therefore, appears to be aimed outward rather than inward

Rather common (though not exceptionally so) in my personal collection of psychotherapist charts. Not sure how much this is impacted by a higher-than-usual percentage of them being sex therapists.

Most common Venus aspect and most common Mars aspect in Quellas employment start chart study. 50-50% good/bad rating. Strong desire for social contact on the job.
Notebook #93 observations: (CONJUNCTION-OPPOSITION-SQUARE) All are interesting, likable, sociable, usually horny people.
(TRINE-SEXTILE) Sociable, but not necessarily social. In fact, rather private despite their breezy facade.
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Venus-Jupiter aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:23 am

VENUS-JUPITER
Fundamentally social creatures. Warm, friendly, giving, hospitable, gracious (reigns over social events). Nearly always liked (great need to be liked, desires positive attention and appreciation more than most, usually gets it). At home in a fine lifestyle (or as celebrity, aristocrat, etc.). Indulgent in all oral pleasures, e.g., preparing and eating fine food. Usually has an easier time through life despite sometimes harsh starts (experience unusual luck or patronage), usually partner well. Inclination to extravagance, possible “spoiled brat” attitude (risk of mild narcissism).

TNIA: These individuals seem to have an easier time in life, no doubt due to their easy-going, unharried attitudes. they have a great need to be liked, though, and desire attention more than most - they need a little honest appreciation from time to time. Preparing and eating food is a particular pleasure for them, as is any particular oral stimulation (thus, with nervous indicators, often chronic smokers). They can easily become addicted to a high lifestyle of the "old Hollywood" tradition. Warm, generous, graceful, and friendly to all, their worst traits are an inclination to extravagance, wastefulness, and a "spoiled brat" attitude if Saturn isn't strong enough to instill moderation.

REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: John Belushi, Barry Gibb, Bobby Fischer, Grand Duchess Anastasia

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Jupiter enhances, qualifies, instills confidence in (can over inflate), and draws self-valuation from one’s love nature, romantic and pleasure style, social urges; awareness of beauty and harmony, and “femininity.”
Venus soothes, harmonizes, and gives pleasure through one’s socialization, response to social expectations, need to be included, style of gregarious expression, and need for the highest and best.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: Herbert Hoover
OPP/SQR: Theodore Roosevelt, William H. Taft
TRI/SEX: Zachary Taylor, James A. Garfield, Richard M. Nixon

STATISTICS wrote:Single most common aspect for 99 heads of states (Eshelman), especially conjunctions, oppositions, and squares. (Bottom line, most of them live in a mansion or a palace!)

Rather common in my collection of psychotherapists.

Unusually common in charts of people with persistent sexual dysfunction (Eshelman & King). THEORY: Repressed sexuality? Spectatoring? Diverted? Too easily pleased? (These are common causes of those problems which are also Venus-Jupiter traits.)
Notebook #93 observations: (Conjunction-Opposition-Square) Eminently gracious individuals. Amiable.
(Trine-Sextile) Really sweet guys, generally quite personally popular.
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Venus-Saturn aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:24 am

VENUS-SATURN
Work, duty, devotion give especial pleasure. Also, various restrictions (even hardships) in love. Work (with an eye to service) is inherently gratifying; ordinary pleasures may be delayed or sacrificed for responsibilities. Many seem comfortable alone (unpartnered), though there is rarely any sexual restraint (often quite the opposite). Childhood hardship or deprivation often exists (physical or emotional) that shapes adult patterns; many move far from their birthplace to restart their lives. Sober, responsible. Willing to pragmatically sacrifice (even sell-out) what-ever they need to, for something more important to them.

TNIA: Saturn limits the pleasure nature. People with this aspects are emotionally cautious, having a fear of ridicule in social/romantic situations which makes them appear shy or inhibited with potential lovers. Often there is the attitude that no one could love them and, especially with a prominent Neptune, these people may seriously question the motives of all around them. They usually set aside ordinary pleasures for the sake of their responsibilities, having an overwhelming desire and motivation to accomplish something. Pleasure becomes synonymous with duty and devotion. Yet this does not quell the loneliness within each of them. Perhaps health conditions or stem parents limited the individual socially when he was young, and now he approaches relationships in a guarded, insecure fashion. This aspect erects emotional walls which may make one incapable of uninhibited adult love, and also seems to put up defenses against philosophical enthusiasm.

REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Dustin Hoffman, Muhammad Ali, Chaz Bono, Gov. Bobby Jindal, Emperor Akihito, King Henry II (France), King James I

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Saturn structures, formats, inhibits, frustrates, and experiences inadequacy and thus over-compensation concerning one’s love nature, romantic and pleasure style, social urges; awareness of beauty and harmony, and “femininity.”
Venus soothes, harmonizes, and gives pleasure through one’s way of facing life’s struggles, are¬as of insecurity, feelings of inadequacy, and personal autonomy needs.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: George Washington
OPP/SQR: Chester A. Arthur, Franklin D. Roosevelt
TRI/SEX: James Madison, Ronald Reagan
STATISTICS wrote:Single most uncommon aspect for 99 heads of states. The trines and sextiles were especially absent. (Eshelman)

Garth Allen observed (AAM 6/56) the extreme frequency of Venus-Saturn aspects in the natal charts of champion boxers. (He had just finished citing the 'disfigurement' motif of Venus-Saturn aspects in solar and lunar returns.) "The man who can look at himself in the mirror when he looks like a bunch of grapes, and then blithefully sign up for another match, has a different slant on vanity - call it Saturnian - than most of the rest of us. But unmodified Venus-Saturn tends not to carte if the old kisser is kissable or not!"

(ANECDOTAL OBSERVATION:) Homosexuals in my files seem to have the trine or sextile, but not the hard aspects.

Common for prostitutes (Eshelman)
Notebook #93 observations: Very inclined to sacrifice in order to serve, to put their own comfort or pleasure aside in order to caretake, "mother," etc.
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Venus-Uranus aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:24 am

VENUS-URANUS
Pleasure drives are free of social convention or taboo, allowing enjoyment from a wide variety of social and sexual experiences. They approach friendship, love, sex, and other pleasure on their own terms, with a deep instinct for flexibility and freedom from artificial constraint. Socially popular, friendly, engaging, and well-liked, in response to their lightly flirtatious, genial, roguish style. (Underlying innocence and vulnerability is often masked by their social “character.”) Often requires distance from intimacy or depersonalizes affection, which can strain conventional pairings. Usually optimistic for society’s future with a deep instinct toward a less Puritanical, more open social fabric.

TNIA: This is the fun aspect, indicating a colorful, exciting, uninhibited style of pursuing pleasure. A social rebel, the native derives enjoyment form the widest variety of social and sexual experiences, including the most taboo (a word which really have no place in his dictionary). He may appear flirtatious and make, then break, associations with ease. Yet beneath it all is a very sensitive emotional nature with an overwhelming desire for a Utopian, universalistic kind of love for all. [ADD: Emotional tension.]

FURTHER NOTES:
Internal conflict of priorities causes outward revolt or social rebellion. - Associations on a personal level have to have an element of aloofness and objectivity. Distance from intimacy. Depersonalization of affection. (Not the best aspect for marriage or other limiting relationships - has a very liberal outlook on marriage, inclined to polyamory, etc.)
GARTH ALLEN wrote:Freedom From Conformity is the blessing from Venus-Uranus. Natives of this famous combination are often called Bohemian, but the social rebellion which Venus-Uranus symbolizes usually takes less proverbial and obvious forms. Most often the revolt is internal, on subconscious levels, and reflects in outward artificial attitudes meant to protect an acutely sensitive emotional nature. The pleasure-drive is quite polymorphic in the Freudian sense of the word, accounting for the frequent association of this pair with verboten erotic tastes, although such outlets are secondary to the key meaning. Whether in dress or diet, mannerisms or allegiances, the revolt shows through, and the lives of these natives are lived out in a continuing battle never to feel mentally uncomfortable because of subconscious tangents. Like the automatic quiver of a horse's hide to dislodge flies, Venus-Uranus minds shuffle off any fact which might threaten their fetishes or fancies, these usually being offbeat, of course. Their greatest danger, for this reason, is falling into the habit of manipulation of truth for personal convenience.
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Anita Bryant, Dorothy Dandridge, Michelangelo Antonioni, Tony Blair, Carl Lewis

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Uranus impersonalizes, unshackles, awakens, stimulates, and adds freedom from structure or inhibition to one’s love nature, romantic and pleasure style, social urges; awareness of beauty and harmony, and “femininity.”
Venus soothes, harmonizes, and gives pleasure through one’s individualistic concept of self and avenues of excitement (and how it is pursued).


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: Franklin Pierce
OPP/SQR: William McKinley
TRI/SEX: John Q. Adams, William Henry Harrison, James A. Garfield, Gerald R. Ford, George W. Bush
STATISTICS wrote:Trines and sextiles virtually absent for 99 heads of states (Eshelman)

Common for homosexuals (Eshelman & numerous other collections)
Notebook #93 observations: (Opposition-Square) Popular, very friendly, sociable, interactive, well-liked.
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Venus-Neptune aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:25 am

VENUS-NEPTUNE
Idealistic, future-looking, longs to be enchanted. Can become jaded, disillusioned, and cynical from repeated hurtful betrayals. Emotions run strong. Most sees beauty in people and things, thus has blind spots (especially in romance). Trusting, naturally confident of others’ goodness (poor discrimination in selecting friends). Good-hearted, caretakes others, devoted friends, ro-mantic, humanitarian. Natural people-readers (when not personally involved), natural psychologists.

TNIA: A highly idealistic nature is shown here, its greatest weakness being too much naive confidence in the innate goodness of people. A person with this aspect is none too discriminating in selecting associates. The beauty of everything and everybody in his world is what he notices most of all and it seems as though he wears blinders to the faults of others, particularly in romance. This combination gives an ingratiating manner and winning charm, as well as pronounced aesthetic awareness. The native is highly romantic and is ever seeking a storybook love affair complete with a Beautiful Princess or a Prince Charming. Emotions run strong and the native is easily wounded when his ideals are shattered. He tends to be high-strung. Romantic fervor may also express itself through religious idealism. [Charm + deception.]

FURTHER NOTES:
Pursuit of unreachable love object (whether in very simple, mundane forms, or through religious devotion). Humanitarian at times in a highly idealistic sense. - Caretakers of others. Friendship may be exalted to godhood. Quellas suggests that helping and manipulating are variants of the same principle (savior-abuser ambiguity). They do seem to be people-readers, but only if they can step outside of the personal equation. Natural psychologists, but did not show in any unusual frequency for my study of actual psychotherapists.
GARTH ALLEN notes wrote:"Kiss of Death." Velvet touch, ingratiating manner that can melt others' resistance and doubts. Able to weave a fascinating illusion of charms.
GARTH ALLEN wrote:...best recognizable for the way it endows the velvet touch, an ingratiating manner that can melt others' resistance and doubts so easily that Venus-Neptune has been called the kiss of death in planetary symbolism.
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Josephine Baker, John Belushi, Leonard Bernstein, Nicholas Cage, Belinda Carlisle, Andy Gibb, Truman Capote, King George III, Henri Toulouse-Lautrec,

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Neptune exaggerates, diffuses, confuses, distorts, infuses with fantasy, hyper-sensitizes, atrophies, and withers one’s love nature, romantic and pleasure style, social urges; awareness of beauty and harmony, and “femininity.”
Venus soothes, harmonizes, and gives pleasure through one’s imagination and fantasy, mode of reality fabrication, sensual indulgence, and response to temptation.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: John Q. Adams, Lyndon B. Johnson, Jimmy Carter
OPP/SQR: Dwight D. Eisenhower
TRI/SEX: Abraham Lincoln, Chester A. Arthur

STATISTICS wrote:Among astrologers, Tropicalists have far more of these than Siderealists.

Trines and sextiles common for 99 heads of states

In my small pilot study years back, this was high for murderers especially the soft aspects. However, this doesn't show in the Bradley study.
Notebook #93 observations: (Opposition-Square) A good heart; vulnerable to hurt or betrayal. Even the troublemakers are strong on service and likable.

Some casual observations, harvested from another thread:
Conjunctions: I see a number of politicians that seem especially motivated by ideological (rather than pragmatic) considerations. Most of the men on this list stand out for a kind of delicacy, but not all (e.g., you'd not usually credit Lyndon Johnson with that trait).
Opposition and square: Female celebrities have a defiite tendency to be "cute sexpot" types - Madonna, Belinda Carlisle, Jane Fonda, Jane Russell - and several women known to me personally have some of the same personal styling. (They tend to be tough, smart, etc., but they let the "sexpot" thing play to their advantage, and apparently because it feels good to them.) Among politicians, despite seeing Adolf Eichman, I see much less ideological motivation - consider Dwight Eisenhower. Most of them (in various areas of pursuit) have a strong ability to weave illusion and imagery and psychological styling to deliver on whatever they are doing. (Perhaps this is what Bradley meant in his "kiss of death, velvet touch" references.)
Trine and sextile: The first thing I notice is that there are a lot more politicians in this group. They all have an ideological bent, but it isn't very pronounced in most cases - more of a convenience of category than a driving element in their decisions. (It's more obvious to see ambition independent of an ideological reason.
Here's an interesting kinetic vs. static twist: The harder aspects have a knack for weaving illusion and (among other things) turning themselves into celebrity-image types. On the other hand, the static aspect list includes people who tend to get turned into "celebrities of the hour" more or less despite themselves. Capt. Chesley Sullenberger is a good example (the guy who did a controlled plane crash in the Husdon). Or Rudy Giuliani, who was made far more of a "celebrity character" by 9/11 than by all of his affirmative political efforts. Or astrologer Gillian Helfgott, whose celebrity status arose from the film (Shine) made about her husband.
One things I would expect, in theory, for Venus-Neptune static aspects is greater passivity - idealism without passionately chasing it down - whereas the kinetic aspects have the capacity to be true zealots (in their personal lives or in other areas). In looking at Venus-Neptune trine-sextile people I know, they seem a bit vague to me - wispy in some sense - and are pretty much what I just conjectured. They may be more truly happy (other things being equal) than the "hard" aspects, because passively existing within their idyllic fantasies (without any need to "do anything about it") frustrates them less. - Few of the people I personally know with close Venus-Neptune trines/sextiles are in long-term relationships. Among the young, they tend to be "move around in sexual-romantic encounters" types - and among the older they tend to be still doing this, or jaded. A few have settled down long-term, but not most of them. The ones who have done so tend to be pretty happy.
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Venus-Pluto aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:25 am

VENUS-PLUTO
“All or nothing” emotional intensity instinctively rejects others’ (moral and other) arbitrary constraints on love, sex, art. Typical-ly has few intimates, and those of unfiltered intensity. Half-way measures are not enough; in human connection, the feeling is, “go cosmic, or go home.” Those expressing the ALL mode seek deep, penetrating connections (sometimes overwhelming inti-mates, sometimes inadvertently challenging social codes). Those in the NOTHING mode may choose it innocently or withdraw from people in response to repeated rebuke and ostracism. For both, sexual development may come late, as adolescent social rituals seem perplexingly arbitrary. Either may experience eruptive trouble in relationships. Either, by their intensity, can be commandingly charismatic.

TNIA: We have yet to know a personal example of this aspect strongly placed where the native was not gentle, inoffensive, often even elfin and delicate in his own way. These people deep in their hearts, want to relate to everyone without social or moralistic restrictions, half-way measures not being adequate. Yet they are soon rebuked by society's mores and forced to withdraw, tending to avoid human interaction. Often sexual development comes late and the native becomes shy and embarrassed with the opposite sex. In all cases their feelings are very intensive and dramatic, though often sublimated into artistic, musical, or dramatic outlets where the native displays remarkable talents. A simplicity of form marks his lifestyle.

FURTHER NOTES:
(June 1982:) I more and more see the "all or nothing." Many have barriers to truly relating; they withhold themselves, etc. UYet those who choose to relate want to do so deeply and, in a very childlike way, seem totally baffled, or at least momentarily perplexed, when someone won't play with them. In relating, Venus-Pluto seems to "want it all." My own tendency to overwhelm intimates seems part of this. - Frankly, many just have trouble with relationships.

REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Chuck Berry, Shirley Temple Black, Goldie Hawn, Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, Kingt Edward VII, Frida Kahlo,

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
“All or nothing” Pluto strains, either strongly intensifies or thoroughly diminishes, and creates powerful need to be free of others’ arbitrary limitations concerning one’s love nature, romantic and pleasure style, social urges; awareness of beauty and harmony, and “femininity.”
Venus soothes, harmonizes, and gives pleasure through one’s “Get away from it all” urge, need to be independent of cultural trappings and labels, and search for existential meaning.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: William Henry Harrison
OPP/SQR: Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Millard Fillmore, Benjamin Harrison, Dwight D. Eisenhower
TRI/SEX: Martin Van Buren, Bill Clinton

STATISTICS wrote:President for 71% of those rape victims who were killed but not unusual for survivors. (Davis)

High for homosexuals (Eshelman & other collections)
Notebook #93 observations: To a one, every male in the TRINE-SEXTILE list is a gentle soul. This is true to a lesser degree with the Hard Aspects, who, however, seem a bit more dramatic and colorful in their personality.
(OPPOSITION-SQUARE) "Drama in sexual relationships" seems characteristic of them.
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Mars-Jupiter aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:46 am

MARS-JUPITER
Exalts strength, competition, and conquest with a zest for living. Common for successful competitive athletes; in most others, it shows vitality and enthusiasm for bringing an ever-improving “personal best.” Confidence in their own strength adds impermanence to any defeats. Morally, if not physically, courageous. Enterprising, resourceful. Sexually, both men and women are ardent, lusty, eager, popular, on the hunt. “Money to burn” (generous or extravagant; rarely holds onto cash for long; seems confident in the stream of resources). Aggressive in their beliefs, evangelical in their lives (irrepressible enthusiasts, missionaries, barnstormers of doctrine or other interests).

TNIA: "Gusto" in life is what this person wants more than anything else. Often called the aspect of extremism, Mars-Jupiter shows competition exalted to godhood and the need to prove one's strength in victory emphasized. Confidence in their own strength adds an impermanence to any defeats. Such a person usually excels in sports of the military. He is daring, even reckless. The men are chivalrous and usually popular with the opposite sex, the erotic potential in either gender being high. In business he is enterprising and capable at organization, though perhaps a little too brazen and outspoken. He has a "money to burn" impulse, being either excessively generous or extravagant but rarely able to hold onto cash for long. These people are natural barnstormers and evangelists, being public expounders of some doctrine (missionaries, political figures, social workers, etc.). [ADD: Aggressive in their beliefs.]

FURTHER NOTES:
ANGEL-DEVIL Polarity ads a chief theme manifesting in their lives. This develops such standard keys as the oft-interlinked religious fervor (fanaticism?) and sexual "malpractice," but also in other variations of acting angelic and devilish. Reward-punishment or retribution (karmic? divine? legal?) themes are common. [This is very marked in the conjunction especially.]
Garth Allen, AA Digest 1959 wrote:...a personality who believes that Power itself is the Prize, who believes that compromise is a sign of weakness and who feels that armor is a weak defense unless it is shiny and bejeweled... "trophies" as displays of prowess...
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Chuck Berry, Debby Boone, Johnny Carson, Maurice Chevalier, Willem Dafoe, Amelia Earhart, Cheiro, Willy BGrandt, Georges Clemenceau, Adele Davis, Arthur Ashe

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Jupiter enhances, qualifies, instills confidence in (can over inflate), and draws self-valuation from one’s energy levels, aggressive tendencies, “masculinity,” and passions.
Mars pursues aggressively, energizes, enflames, and coarsens one’s socialization, response to social expectations, need to be included, style of gregarious expression, and need for the highest and best.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: Grover Cleveland, Richard M. Nixon
TRI/SEX: James Polk
STATISTICS wrote:Common for 99 heads of states

Though present in the charts of a very ordinary 59% of rape victims who survived the assault, this shows a scanty 21% of the time for murdered rape victims (Davis). I strongly suspect that this is a strong survival indicator that otherwise has very little to do with vulnerability to rape.

"The classical index ofnatural athletic ability in a horoscope, according to statistics..." (Garth Allen)

"...predominate in the charts of professional athletes who represent the classical ideal of masculine personality" (Garth Allen)
Notebook #93 observations: (TRINE-SEXTILE) Service seems to come hard to them (presumably because Mars-Jupiter likes to play).
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Mars-Saturn aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:47 am

MARS-SATURN
Struggle marks these lives, sometimes from early (physical or psychological) hardship, sometimes from prejudice. Some (activists) struggle for something, others struggle only against. All are hardened, tough survivors, self-sufficient, maneuvering for control, who seem to make everything harder than necessary. Three typical types are those who (1) accept the hardship and focus most on “getting through”; (2) act meek, frail, gentle, inoffensive; (3) overcompensate as bullies, pushing around those weaker than them. Suppressive experiences leave feelings of weakness, shame, and inadequacy they ultimately need to heal. Conflicts especially with father-authority equivalencies. Most are serious and reserved, cautious about enthusiasms.

TNIA: Just as Mars-Jupiter installs confidence in one's strength, Mars-Saturn indicates just the opposite: an inborn sense of weakness or inadequacy. Many people so born blame this impotence on some element in their culture, such as their gender, race, or religious affiliation, and set out to attack the surface cause, whereas the real problem is within themselves. Some accept their weakness and are noted for gentleness and inoffensiveness. Others overcompensate with bully tactics to reassert their virility by pushing around those weaker than themselves. These people have a need to control others as a proof of power. Most are deadly serious in manner, reflecting a measure of caution. Sexually, they are insecure, and in most things their enthusiasms are short-lived. They may seem not overly concerned with life despite the hardship they often experience, considering their existence without meaning or purpose - direction must then be sought. [ADD: The mind of a hunter - a "killer's instinct" - Fighting one's limits - driven!]
GARTH ALLEN wrote:They "can take it." they are not easily driven to give up in the battle of life... perseverance in the face of heavy odds.
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Charles Chaplin, Oliver Cromwell, Czar Alexander I

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Saturn structures, formats, inhibits, frustrates, and experiences inadequacy and thus over-compensation concerning one’s energy levels, aggressive tendencies, “masculinity,” and passions.
Mars pursues aggressively, energizes, enflames, and coarsens one’s way of facing life’s struggles, are¬as of insecurity, feelings of inadequacy, and personal autonomy needs.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
OPP/SQR: Herbert Hoover
TRI/SEX: Franklin Pierce, William McKinley, Dwight D. Eisenhower, George H.W. Bush, Barack Obama

STATISTICS wrote:Low for suicides (Bradley)

Infrequent for 99 heads of states (Eshelman)

"...characterize the horoscopes of men considered effeminate by the standards of our culture" (Garth Allen)

Appeared in 81% of charts of rape victims studied by Davis - 76% of survivors and 86% of those murdered. Overall, only Sun-Moon aspects were more common. The squares were especially common. ANALYSIS: This does indeed seem to mark a life of struggle and/or violence (cf. suicide results).

In employment start charts, second most common Mars aspect. Only 4 of 18 were losers. Ability to produce, use energy well, etc. (Quellas)
Notebook #93 observations: (Opposition-Square) The obvious Mars-Saturn traits stand out, especially a psyche and life heavily involved in struggle and polarization. The rest of the chart reflects what role the person takes in the struggle, and how they enact, or react to, the struggle.
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Mars-Uranus aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:48 am

MARS-URANUS
Uncompromisingly individualist (but rarely ungraciously so). Bold, often stand out as highly distinctive characters in their circles. Natural rebel, challenges prevailing thinking, brutally honest. Always into something new, often offbeat. Takes risks psychologically (sometimes physically). Industrious, resourceful, shows initiative. Mentally quick, not necessarily intellectual; knack for astute assessment of situations, analytical, mechanical instincts. Sexually uninhibited, enthusiastic (lifestyle may challenge social standards; actions may challenge the world to try to stop them). Trusts own instincts more than outside advice.

TNIA: People with this aspect attempt to assert their individuality aggressively, and this is accomplished by looking out for themselves first and foremost. They are stubborn, intolerant of others' views, and absolutely refuse to be backed into a corner. There is a restlessness and need for excitement and risk which can lead to recklessness and and sudden, unprompted actions. Here is a prankster with an impulse toward outlandish mischief. Yet although he is a born rebel, a natural fighter who wishes to impress others with his individuality, he is also highly industrious and enterprising in his work, gifted with an analytical mind and sharp mechanical and mathematical abilities. He needs to stop and smell the roses before he runs over them with a lawn mower!
GARTH ALLEN wrote:Equally stubborn and geared to a first-person-pronoun track through life is Mars-Uranus, but in a zestier way [than Venus-Uranus]. Mars-Uranus cannot be made to do something he does not wish to do, and shows this Freedom From Coercion by constantly challenging the world to question his motives or fetter his enthusiasm. He has a distaste for cooperation and often lonewolfes it. Exploitative in the extreme and a vigilante on behalf of rugged individualism, the native seldom embraces anything whole-heartedly, being unable to put body and soul into anything he undertakes that is not adventuresome. Mars-Uranus usually lives out its life span without ever really knowing that Love is. But for all its objectivity and lack of fear, this influence is essentially honest and, on occasion, brutally honest to the tune of a truckload of troubles.
GARTH ALLEN wrote:Men in whom Mars-Uranus vibrations are dominant are natural "altar bait." In many cases these men are the heroic type, born with a high degree of physical intelligence, to whom unattached women are attracted by sensing the staying power that is their characteristic. Even though eternally on the lookout for the angles in any situation, they give the impression of clean-cut, fearless honesty.

One of the angles which has its appeal to the eye of many a Mars-Uranus male is the proprietary side of marriage, the sense of ownership of a wife. This is why relatively few Mars-Uranus men fail to hang their tags on willing women at some time early in their adult lives. Oddly, but appropriately, aspects of Mars-Uranus are also lacking in normal numbers in the charts of fathers of four or more children. Even while of the marrying species, they do not like to surrender their rugged individualities too completely to others. Marriage and paternity to them are sufficient reassurances of the unique masculinity, but they feel there is little advantage in overplaying the part. Hence, a token number of children, rather than a carload, is par with married Mars-Uranus men.
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Patsy Cline, Marjoe Gortner, Rodney King, Adele Davis, Joe Frazier, Richard Simmons

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Uranus impersonalizes, unshackles, awakens, stimulates, and adds freedom from structure or inhibition to one’s energy levels, aggressive tendencies, “masculinity,” and passions.
Mars pursues aggressively, energizes, enflames, and coarsens one’s individualistic concept of self and avenues of excitement (and how it is pursued).


U.S. PRESIDENTS
TRI/SEX: Martin Van Buren, Zachary Taylor

STATISTICS wrote:Murderers (Bradley), which implies weak frustration tolerance.

Low incidence for lifelong bachelors (Bradley)

Low incidence for fathers of 4 or more chldren (Bradley)

Present for 71% of murdered rape victims (Davis)

Common for homosexuals (Eshelman & other collections)
Notebook #93 observations: (Conjunction-Opposition-Square) Horny people. A lot of character strength, obstinacy, generally very bright but not necessarily intellectual.
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Mars-Neptune aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:48 am

MARS-NEPTUNE
Obsessive, concentrated, with enormous psychic power to fascinate and move minds and reality, in a thriving life of high-drama. Requires rapid conformity of reality to his wants (and usually gets it); surges into temptation; impatient with frustrated gratification, yet often can mobilize great stamina for long-term vision. Imagination and emotion are supercharged; thrives in conditions of stirred passion. Evangelical enthusiasm for interests and convictions. Can compel a nearly religious following, as if by pure will. Aggressions can be dramatic; unresolved anger patterns trigger in response to frustrations. High IQ; can be manipulative. Sexually magnetic yet wrestles with sexual demons and doubts. (This aspect is most comprehensively expressed by high dopamine levels and dopamine-driven behavior.)

TNIA: The imagination and emotional nature are supercharged, as considerable energy is spent in the pursuit of ideals and dreams - hopefully, more often visions than mirages. The native is able to hold in hypnotic fascination those he wishes to interest or lead, as though he could persuade or direct them by sheer force of will-power. Aggressions can be dramatic and imaginative. This configuration points to an impatient need for gratification of momentary desires, most goals being short-term. Often the energies are wasted or diffused by this myopic orientation. He may fight shadows, unnecessarily concerning himself with trifles. While I.Q. is likely to be above average, intelligence often is not used with responsibility, and the native is slow to admit his mistakes. Vanity may be pronounced, even to the point where the native experiences delusions of infallibility. Energies should be directed toward long-term aspirations rather than merely to maintain a comfortable, but faulty, perspective. [ADD: Manipulation. Sexual anxiety (not trine-sextile so much). Power of invariable vision.]

[Quote from a post, where I discussed this in a new way:] The close Mars-Neptune opposition has a missionary spirit (among other similar traits), a hurling himself (usually imprudently) into whatever is the focus of his attention... Mars-Neptune is seriously dopamine-driven, and is a also [an] aspect that enhances his intelligence enormously. (I think that's a consequence of living at high dopamine levels: impulse driven toward a desire, needing immediate gratification and doing more or less whatever is necessary to get it. This behavior pattern gives much higher permanent dopamine levels, and, among other things, that boosts mental power.)"
GARTH ALLEN wrote:...individuals born under strong Mars-Neptune vibrations have a tendency to take themselves too seriously. They expend a tremendous amount of energy in behalf of their ideals or, in symbolism, their visions - to the degree where each and every hankering becomes nearly an obsession.

...Mars-Neptune is the "spoiled brat" aspect of birth-charts. The aggressive instincts of Mars when filtered through the vagueness of Neptune behave like Stephen Leakcock's rider who mounted his horse and rode off in all directions. This is why Mars-Neptune is one of the horoscopic earmarks of bachelorhood. A prospective bride soon finds that she is being asked to marry not only the man but his dog and office and golf clubs and political party and alma mater and favorite comedian, and so forth we well. The life of a Mars-Neptune personality is too mixed up for many girls he would single out to share his love.
Garth Allen, AA 11/58 wrote:Mars-Neptune personalities are characterized by their tremendous expenditure of energy in behalf of their delusions or, on the more constructive side, their ideals. Once having taken a stand or committed themselves to a certain Guiding Fiction I life, they would rather die than recant, would rather suffer in secret than admit possibly having been wrong. In clear-cut cases they are ingenious in backing up their viewpoints and revving up their arguments with Zealotlike tirelessness. Even in nonpathological matters, such as everyday work, they are indefatigable. It has been called the "show-off and spout-off" combination in horoscopy, and when one considers the many vociferous politicians and aspirants to glory (even to the Crown of Peter) whose birthcharts glow with the special fire of ambition that is Mars-Neptune's endowment, the genuineness of [his example's] belief in herself can hardly be doubted. Mars-Neptune must play out its obsessions in the grand manner, no matter the cost and to blazes with the facts.
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Pres. Bill Clinton, Andy Warhol, Frida Kahlo, Charles Manson, Gilawal Zardan Bhutto

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
Neptune exaggerates, diffuses, confuses, distorts, infuses with fantasy, hyper-sensitizes, atrophies, and withers one’s energy levels, aggressive tendencies, “masculinity,” and passions.
Mars pursues aggressively, energizes, enflames, and coarsens one’s imagination and fantasy, mode of reality fabrication, sensual indulgence, and response to temptation.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
CONJ: James Monroe, Bill Clinton
OPP/SQR: James Buchanan, Grover Cleveland, William McKinley

STATISTICS wrote:High for lifelong bachelors (Bradley)

High I.Q. (Choisnard)

Very common for 99 heads of state (Eshelman)
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Mars-Pluto aspects

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 7:48 am

MARS-PLUTO
Normally well-mannered, congenial, even docile behavior sits atop a stockpile of explosive force. It may be (1) suppressed, blocked personal power, (2) owned, disciplined, available personal power, or (3) pathologized, brutal, destructive power. (Health in this reflected in how freely appropriate anger is ex-pressed.) This enormous force (especially physical force) must be expressed somehow, e.g., (1) directly, (2) attracting violence, or (3) eruptive health crises. Sexual energies explosive, or poured into driven work. Vulnerable to burnout. Sensitive to pressure or coercion; pot-stirrers, resistant to outside control, defiant of arbitrary restrictions; willing to live “outside the norm” on social patterning. In a productive, on-track life: a mark of genius and distinctive creativity, acutely alive with a quiet energy; the others are trouble, can’t seem to avoid breaking or upsetting some-thing.

TNIA: Pluto is the "all or nothing" planet, and whereas some people with this aspect are extremely docile and gentle, others are brutish and difficult to live and work with. There is a need for extreme physical expression, and if the native does not express it himself, he may attract it. Generally, he considers himself above the control or censure of others. Sexual drives are usually intense, or else the native releases this energy by driving himself in his work, often to the point of collapse. People with this aspect are extremely sensitive to outside pressures and need to learn to calm themselves and let personal concerns ease away.

FURTHER NOTES:
OPPOSITIONS & SQUARES: Balls, though with such a relative sureness of their strength that they're rarely pushy. Most notable strength. TRINES & SEXTILES: Men are mostly gentle, "venussy" types, but with very firm backbone and solid strength (usually). Women have "strong front-bone," i.e., "characterological Priapism!"
GARTH ALLEN wrote:Mars-Pluto influences instill in their natives a resistance to "playing by the rules" and reacting to situations in observance of the conventions of society. They have a tendency toward "taking the law into their own hands" as a result of an inborn impatience with orderly procedures. Mars-Pluto vibrations imbue a sense of personal transcendence of civil law and social mores, and it is common to find such a person preparing to defend himself and his own against some outside threat rather than calling the police for proper protection... Mars-Pluto types... can usually be relied on to be "different."
REPRESENTATIVE EXAMPLES: Antonio Banderas, John Belushi, Richard Carpenter, Patsy Cline, Stewart Granger, Arnold Bennett, Elizabeth Barrett Browning, Mohandas Gandhi, King James II

THEORETICAL COMPOSITION:
“All or nothing” Pluto strains, either strongly intensifies or thoroughly diminishes, and creates powerful need to be free of others’ arbitrary limitations concerning one’s energy levels, aggressive tendencies, “masculinity,” and passions.
Mars pursues aggressively, energizes, enflames, and coarsens one’s “Get away from it all” urge, need to be independent of cultural trappings and labels, and search for existential meaning.


U.S. PRESIDENTS
OPP/SQR: Thomas Jefferson, Martin Van Buren, William Henry Harrison, Warren G. Harding, Richard M. Nixon
TRI/SEX: James Buchanan

STATISTICS wrote:Frequent for suicides (Bradley)

Army wifes (Quellas)

Well-represented (but not a leading aspect) for 99 heads of states (Eshelman)

Frequent for homosexuals (Eshelman & other collections)

Exceptionally numerous among hospital inmates (Jean Graves)
Notebook #93 observations: (CONJUNCTION-OPPOSITION-SQUARE) As would be expected, they are more or less "outside the norm" on social patterning. Those who are doing well with their lives show a mark of genius and distinctive creativity, seem gentle but energetic, acutely alive but with a quiet energy. Those who are not doing well in their lives, however, are a kind of trouble: I am sure that they do not consciously think of themselves as pot-stirrers, but they are like social bulls in a china shop, or at least can't seem to avoid "breaking" or upsetting something around them. THE KEY THAT DIFFERENTIATES THE TWO GROUPS IS A PRODUCTIVE, ON-TRACK LIFE.
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Re: Natal aspect interpretations - Inner Planets

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri May 26, 2017 1:13 pm

FYI, I've spent the last few days rewriting the above aspect interpretations (Mercury, Venus, and Mars aspects). It's the first full rewrite I've done since I wrote The New Instant Astrologer in the late 1970s (though there have been plenty of notes, addenda, etc. posted since then).

You may want to look at these afresh for yourself, especially with regard to your own chart or other aspects of particular interest to you. (I did the luminary aspects a few years ago.)

The original TNIA interpretations are left for now, for reference, marked "TNIA."
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