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Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun May 07, 2017 10:14 pm

During a discussion of the Boston Marathon Bombing, Mon Apr 15, 2013 about 3 PM,
Finish line at the Boston Library, Coordinates 42°20′57.55″N 71°4′41.78″W...

April 19 1775 First battles of US War of Independence @ Lexington & Concord & midnight ride of Paul Revere
April 19 1993 end of Waco
April 19 1995 Oklahoma City
April 20 1999 Columbine
April 16 2007 Virginia Tech
April 15 2013 Boston Marathon Bombing

Columbine and OKC were supposedly in memorium of Waco. Is there a common astrological basis to memorial events?

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Re: Arisolar Events, an incomplete list

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun May 07, 2017 10:15 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:April 19 1775 First battles of US War of Independence @ Lexington & Concord & midnight ride of Paul Revere
April 19 1993 end of Waco
April 19 1995 Oklahoma City
April 20 1999 Columbine
April 15 2013 Boston Marathon Bombing

Columbine and OKC were supposedly in memorium of Waco. Is there a common astrological basis to memorial events?
If they aren't spread too far across a century or so, they have the Sun in the same degree. And all of these are in the immediate aftermath of the Arisolar ingress - Would you like to set up the Arisolars for each of these and see if they were the trigger event? (It's usually a pretty weak ingress.)

And, besides being an ingress (with its own characteristics), mid-April is simply the time that the Sun enters Aries. Sun in Aries events would be expected to be a bit more common. This is an area I've never seen explored in mundane astrology, and it should be easy enough to affirm or deny: Do major mass-mind trends group throughout the year according to Sun-sign.

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Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun May 07, 2017 10:16 pm

Added VA Tech.

I'd like to set up the Arisolars and relevant lunars & progressions but its not fun or easy. I don't have solar fire. Is there something less expensive that would work as well? Computer platform not a barrier.

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Re: Arisolar Events, an incomplete list

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun May 07, 2017 10:17 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:Added VA Tech.

I'd like to set up the Arisolars and relevant lunars & progressions but its not fun or easy. I don't have solar fire. Is there something less expensive that would work as well? Computer platform not a barrier.
As I have time, I'll do the Arisolars. (I'm considering that this should be the one factor checked - not a study of the events, but an examination of whether just-after-Arisolar events actually relate to the Arisolar.) If you provide a list of event name, date (and time if you have it), and city, I'll do the rest - it will be fast.

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Jim Eshelman wrote: As I have time, I'll do the Arisolars. (I'm considering that this should be the one factor checked - not a study of the events, but an examination of whether just-after-Arisolar events actually relate to the Arisolar.) If you provide a list of event name, date (and time if you have it), and city, I'll do the rest - it will be fast.
Thanks. See below.

Still want my own software so I can do it myself. (BTW, There's no "pouty baby" smilie either.)

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United States centric Arisolar Ingress events. (Leaving out things like the Titanic sinking)

Battles of Lexington & Concord
April 19 1775 First shots described as "as the sun rose" 5 am local time (eastern standard) in Lexington 42°26′58.7″N 71°13′51.0″W
British fire on parade group colonists 8 killed, 10 wounded British 1 wounded
Battle at North Bridge Concord, 42°28′08.54″N 71°21′02.08″W about 11 am local time. Colonists 2 dead 4 wounded British 3 dead 9 wounded

Lincoln shot
April 14, 1865 between 10:25 and 10:30 PM 38°53′48″N 77°1′33″W
died 7:22am on April 15, 1865

Ludlow Massacre
April 20, 1914 37:20:22 N 104:35:00 W fighting all day, between 6:30 & 7 PM a train stopped on the tracks blocking the Colorado National Guard machine guns so familiies of minors could escape. At least 20 dead including 2 women and 11 children.

Texas City Disaster
April 16, 1947 detonation 9:12 AM Central LAT: 29 23 N LON: 94 54 W 500 dead 4000 injured, 250 missing, presumed vaporized in explosions

Bay of Pigs
April 17, 1961 abt 1 AM Eastern first landing 22:04 N 81:02 W

CSA seige
April 19, 1985 (ended early AM 23rd) 36.529502,-92.618374 0 dead, 0 injured.
Model for ATF actions at Ruby Ridge and Waco

Waco
April 19 1993 31°35′45″N 96°59′17″W 11:30 am central fires begun 12:07 flames visible, 12:25, explosion, 12:30 roof collaspe. 76 dead (6 additional on 2-28 & 4 ATF agents, 16 wounded all ATF)

Oklahoma City
April 19 1995 35.4728° N, 97.5171° W 9:02 am central 168 dead 700 injured

Columbine
April 20 1999 11:14 am Mountain diversion bomb in field 3 miles south detonates 11:19 am shooting at school proper begins Latitude:N 39° 36.199998' Longitude:W 105° 4.483332' 12:08pm shooters suicide 15 dead, 24 injured

Virginia Tech
April 16 2007 9:42 a.m Eastern Lat: 37.22944 Long: -80.42312 first 911 call 9:51 am shooter suicide 15 dead 24 injured

Deep Water Horizon blowout
20 April 2010 9:45 P.M. CDT, 28.736667°N 88.386944°W burned through 4-22 11 missing, presumed dead

Boston Marathon Bombing
April 15 2013 2:50 PM Eastern, 42°20′57.55″N 71°4′41.78″W first tweet 2:52 pm 3 dead, at least 130 injured

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Jim Eshelman wrote:
Thanks. I somehow missed this when you first posted to it. I might be able to get the basics done today.

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Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun May 07, 2017 10:25 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
To restate, as a baseline for looking at the charts, here are the events I'm checking. Because I first want to focus on the U.S. capital, I'm excluding any events before the United States government was established.

Lincoln died
April 15, 1865, 7:22 AM, Washington, DC

Ludlow Massacre
April 20, 1914, 7:00 AM (est.), Ludlow, CO
At least 20 dead including 2 women and 11 children.

Texas City Disaster
April 16, 1947, 9:12 AM, Texas City, TX
Deadliest industrial accident in U.S. history: 500 dead, 4,000 injured, 250 missing (presumed vaporized in explosions)

Bay of Pigs
April 17, 1961 1:00 AM EST, 22N04 81W02

CSA Siege
April 19, 1985, 12:00 PM (est), Elijah, MO
Model for ATF actions at Ruby Ridge and Waco (no deaths or injuries)

Waco siege
April 19 1993, 11:30 AM, Waco, TX
76 dead (6 additional on 2-28 & 4 ATF agents, 16 wounded all ATF)

Oklahoma City bombing
April 19, 1995, 9:02 AM, Oklahoma City, OK'
168 dead 700 injured

Columbine shooting
April 20, 1999, 11:19 AM, Columbine, CO
15 dead, 24 injured

Virginia Tech massacre
April 16, 2007, 9:42 AM, Blacksburg, VA
15 dead 24 injured

Deep Water Horizon blowout
April 20, 2010, 9:45 PM CDT, 28.736667°N, 88.386944°W
11 missing (presumed dead)

Boston Marathon bombing
April 15, 2013, 2:50 PM, Boston, MA
3 dead, at least 160 injured

Fox Islands earthquake
April 19, 1957, 22:19:30.0 UTC, 52.20N, 166.28W
Claimed to be the largest earthquake in US history (7.3)

West, TX fertilizer plant explosion
April 17, 2013, 7:50:38 PM, 31.817 N, 97.088 W

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Jim Eshelman wrote:
Test 1: Calculate the Arisolar ingress immediately before each of these, for Washington, DC, to determine whether the Arisolar showed the event. Secondly, assess the same charts for locale of the event. I'll rate each event on a 5-point scale.

Lincoln died
April 15, 1865, 7:22 AM, Washington, DC
ARISOLAR: Venus at Zenith. The event was reasonably shown by Moon closely opposite a 2' Mercury-Pluto conjunction, though these were more widely foreground. Score 4.
Ludlow Massacre
April 20, 1914, 7:00 AM (est.), Ludlow, CO
At least 20 dead including 2 women and 11 children
ARISOLAR DC: Close Moon-Saturn opposition foreground (but not very foreground). Score 4
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Mars and Neptune partile conjunct Descendant. Sun partile square Ascendant (and the Mars-Neptune). Score: 5.
Texas City Disaster
April 16, 1947, 9:12 AM, Texas City, TX
Deadliest industrial accident in U.S. history: 500 dead, 4,000 injured, 250 missing (presumed vaporized in explosions)
ARISOLAR DC: Jupiter closely on IC. (Failure.) Score: 1.
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Pluto partile square MC. (Reinforcing lunar aspects also.) Score: 5.
Fox Islands earthquake
April 19, 1957, 22:19:30.0 UTC, 52.20N, 166.28W
Claimed to be the largest earthquake in US history (7.3)
ARISOLAR DC: Pluto 3° above Descendant. Mars 3° east of IC. Closest, though, is Saturn almost partile square Ascendant. Score: 5
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Pluto square Ascendant. Otherwise, Jupiter is the most angular. Mixed chart, and without the usual characteristics of earthquakes. Score 3.5.
Bay of Pigs
April 17, 1961 1:00 AM EST, 22N04 81W02
ARISOLAR DC: Pluto 2° from Descendant. Score: 4.
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Pluto mundanely within 2° of Descendant. Score: 4.
CSA Siege
April 19, 1985, 12:00 PM (est), Elijah, MO
Model for ATF actions at Ruby Ridge and Waco (no deaths or injuries)
ARISOLAR DC: Moon-Mars square (27') with Moon precisely on the Midheaven. Uranus setting closely. Saturn exactly on WP. Only the absence of deaths and injuries compromises the accuracy of this striking chart. Score: 4
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Nothing. Score: 3.
Waco siege
April 19 1993, 11:30 AM, Waco, TX
76 dead (6 additional on 2-28 & 4 ATF agents, 16 wounded all ATF)
ARISOLAR DC: Venus on Zenith (63'). Quite the opposite of how this hit the nation and its government! Score: 1.
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Pluto partile conjunct Descendant (mundo). Score: 5.
Oklahoma City bombing
April 19, 1995, 9:02 AM, Oklahoma City, OK'
168 dead 700 injured
ARISOLAR DC: Pluto rising 27' ecliptic, but 7° above horizon in mundo. Saturn conjunct Venus near the IC. Jupiter conjunct EP and partile square MC. (The Jupiter keeps this from being a perfect chart, but the event is clearly shown by the rest.) Score 4.
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Mars partile square Ascendant. Score: 4.
Columbine shooting
April 20, 1999, 11:19 AM, Columbine, CO
15 dead, 24 injured
ARISOLAR DC: Pluto rising partile ecliptic, 6 degrees mundo. Mercury exactly on IC. Score: 5.
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Uranus square Asc partile (whch isn't very descriptive). Score: 3.
Virginia Tech massacre
April 16, 2007, 9:42 AM, Blacksburg, VA
15 dead 24 injured
ARISOLAR DC: Pluto 2 degrees from Asc, but Jupiter also foreground. Score 4.
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Pluto partile (8') conjunct Asc. Moon partile square Asc. However, Jupiter above 3° Asc weakens the case, and there is no Mars. Score: 4.
Deep Water Horizon blowout
April 20, 2010, 9:45 PM CDT, 28.736667°N, 88.386944°W
11 missing (presumed dead)
ARISOLAR DC: Sun on Descendant, not convincing. Score: 2.
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Nothing close enough to count. Score: 3.
Boston Marathon bombing
April 15, 2013, 2:50 PM, Boston, MA
3 dead, at least 160 injured
ARISOLAR DC: Venus at MC, Saturn square Ascendant. (Neither is super-close.) Score 3.
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Saturn partile on IC. Score: 4.
West, TX fertilizer plant explosion
April 17, 2013, 7:50:38 PM, 31.817 N, 97.088 W
ARISOLAR DC: Venus at MC, Saturn square Ascendant. (Neither is super-close.) Score 3.
ARISOLAR LOCALE: Pluto precisely on Westpoint. Sun-Mars partile conjunction square Asc. Score: 5.


PRELIMINARY CONCLUSION: In a majority of cases, the Arisolar for Washington, DC showed the significant violent events occurring in the days immediately following the Arisolar. However, in 3 out of 8 of these events (just over one-third), it was not sufficient.

SECOND PRELIMINARY CONCLUSION: In most cases (but not invariably), the Arilunar for the location of the event was better than the one for DC. Some of the exceptions are puzzling, e.g., the Fox Islands quake (which should surely be a local event) and the Columbine shooting (which had profound local impact in addition to the national impact).

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Jim Eshelman wrote:
Test 2: Calculate the Capsolar ingress current to each of these, for both Washington, DC, and the event location. Rate each event on a 5-point scale. Compare to the Arisolars.

Lincoln died
April 15, 1865, 7:22 AM, Washington, DC
CAPSOLAR: Main feature is Saturn 3° from IC. Also, Moon is rising (partile in mundo). Score: 5.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: t. Saturn conj. IC (42'). t. Sun conj. MC (53'). Score: 5
QUOTIDIAN: i. Sun on IC (58'). t. Saturn on EP (13' mundo). Score: 5
Ludlow Massacre
April 20, 1914, 7:00 AM (est.), Ludlow, CO
At least 20 dead including 2 women and 11 children
CAPSOLAR DC: Jupiter-Neptune across the horizon (add some Sun, add some Uranus). Score: 2
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: t. Jupiter conj. EP. Score: 2
QUOTIDIAN: Asc conj. t. Saturn (45' at start of day). Score: 5

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Mars and Pluto hovering around the Dsc. Sun partile square MC. Score: 4.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: None. Score: 3.
QUOTIDIAN: Mars-Neptune partile conjunction exactly on IC. Score: 5.
Texas City Disaster
April 16, 1947, 9:12 AM, Texas City, TX
Deadliest industrial accident in U.S. history: 500 dead, 4,000 injured, 250 missing (presumed vaporized in explosions)
CAPSOLAR DC: Saturn on EP (squared by Moon). Pluto broadly foreground. All too wide to get me excited. Score: 3
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: None.
QUOTIDIAN: i. Saturn on MC (58' ecliptic, 69' RA). SQ Moon partile square Saturn. Score: 5

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Mars sq. MC (53'), Mercury on WP (69'). Score: 4
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: None.
QUOTIDIAN: i. Mercury on IC. Score: 3
Fox Islands earthquake
April 19, 1957, 22:19:30.0 UTC, 52.20N, 166.28W
Claimed to be the largest earthquake in US history (7.3)
CAPSOLAR DC: Uranus is a few degrees from the Dsc but, really, not much is happening. Score: 3.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: None
QUOTIDIAN: None.

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Pluto on MC. (But rather wide mundanely.) Score: 4.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: Pluto conj. MC (39'). Score: 4
QUOTIDIAN: i. Uranus on Dsc (7' in mundo). Score: 4.5
Bay of Pigs
April 17, 1961 1:00 AM EST, 22N04 81W02
CAPSOLAR DC: Uranus partile to Dsc. Venus on EP (and op. Pluto). JFK was coming into office (well shown) and international relationships were significantly altering, of which BoP was a leading example. Score: 4.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: None.
QUOTIDIAN: i. Mars on Asc, t. Pluto on IC (partile in RA) op. t. Venus on MC. Score: 5.

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Pluto square MC (22'). Uranus setting. Venus very broadly foreground (with a Venus-Pluto opposition in the mix). Score: 5.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: None
QUOTIDIAN: t. Pluto on IC (28'). Score: 4. (Can't give a military invasion a 5 without Mars involved. but this is pretty good.)
CSA Siege
April 19, 1985, 12:00 PM (est), Elijah, MO
Model for ATF actions at Ruby Ridge and Waco (no deaths or injuries)
CAPSOLAR DC: Saturn 9' from Dsc (ecliptic). Moon conj. Pluto within 1', both sq. MC (24', 25'). Score: 5.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: There isn't a precise time for this event - it spread over time - but, generally, Mars was conjunct the Capsolar Asc, opposite ingress Saturn. Score: 5.
QUOTIDIAN: t. Jupiter sq. MC. (This was likely the government's feeling about the resolution - victory and no casualties.) Score: 4.

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Moon-Pluto partile conjunction on Descendant. Sun near MC. Score: 5
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: Pluto remained within a degree of the angle, but really nothing showed distinctive to the day. Score: 3
QUOTIDIAN: Nothing close enough until the next day. Score: 3.
Waco siege
April 19 1993, 11:30 AM, Waco, TX
76 dead (6 additional on 2-28 & 4 ATF agents, 16 wounded all ATF)
CAPSOLAR DC: Pluto on WP (7' in RA). Score: 4
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: None
QUOTIDIAN: None

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Saturn sq. Ascendant. Score: 4
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: None.
QUOTIDIAN: i. Saturn on Dsc (46'). Score: 4.
Oklahoma City bombing
April 19, 1995, 9:02 AM, Oklahoma City, OK'
168 dead 700 injured
CAPSOLAR DC: Mars at MC sq. Pluto on EP. Score: 5
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: t. Mars sq. Asc (18'). Score 5
QUOTIDIAN: Asc op. t. Mars (36'). Score: 5

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Nothing. Score: 3.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: None. Score: 3.
QUOTIDIAN: i. Neptune on Asc. Score: 3.
Columbine shooting
April 20, 1999, 11:19 AM, Columbine, CO
15 dead, 24 injured
CAPSOLAR DC: Pluto sq. MC (56'). Score: 4.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: t. Pluto sq. MC (24'). t. Venus sq. MC (58'). Score: 4 (would have been better if Mars was involved)
QUOTIDIAN: Nothing.

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Uranus partile conjunct IC. Score: 3.5. (It was surprising, but it's not exactly descriptive of the event.)
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: Mars conj. Asc (28'). Saturn conj. Desc (47'). Neptune sq. Asc (49'), [This is one of the most extraordinary mundane charts ever.] Score: 6 (on a 5 scale).
QUOTIDIAN: Nothing.
Virginia Tech massacre
April 16, 2007, 9:42 AM, Blacksburg, VA
15 dead 24 injured
CAPSOLAR DC: Jupiter rising (36') conjunct Moon. Uranus sq. Asc. Mars-Pluto conjunction on EP (Mars 5' in RA). Score: 4.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: t. Pluto conj. i. Mars 1', on the EP. Score: 5
QUOTIDIAN: MC conj. t. Pluto. Score 5

In other words:
t. Pluto 4 Sag 04
i. Mars 4 Sag 05
i. EP 4 Sag 09
SQ MC 4 Sag 15

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Moon-Jupiter rising squared by Uranus. Score: 1.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: None. Score: 3.
QUOTIDIAN: Nothing quite within orb. Ingress Pluto was just outside partile. Score: 3.
Deep Water Horizon blowout
April 20, 2010, 9:45 PM CDT, 28.736667°N, 88.386944°W
11 missing (presumed dead)
CAPSOLAR DC: Saturn rising, square Mercury-Pluto on IC. Score: 5.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: t. Pluto conj. i. Mercury and IC.
QUOTIDIAN: None.

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Uranus setting. Score: 4.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: Nothing. Score: 3.
QUOTIDIAN: Saturn on MC (54'). Score: 5
Boston Marathon bombing
April 15, 2013, 2:50 PM, Boston, MA
3 dead, at least 160 injured
CAPSOLAR DC: Sun on Dsc, Pluto on WP. Score: 3
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: t. Mars sq. Asc (59'). t. Pluto op. EP 30'. Score: 5
QUOTIDIAN: Asc op. t. Uranus (6'), sq. i. Pluto (26'). MC op. t. Pluto (53'). Score: 5

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Nothing. Score: 3.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: Nothing. Score: 3.
QUOTIDIAN: Nothing. Score: 3.
West, TX fertilizer plant explosion
April 17, 2013, 7:50:38 PM, 31.817 N, 97.088 W
CAPSOLAR DC: Sun on Dsc, Pluto on WP. Score: 3
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: (t. Sun conj. t. Mars 0') sq. Asc (43'). Score: 5
QUOTIDIAN: Asc sq. t. Pluto (26'). Score: 5

CAPSOLAR LOCALE: Venus setting, Uranus sq. Asc. Score: 3.5.
TRANSITS TO ANGLES: Mercury sq. Asc. Score: 3.
QUOTIDIAN: Nothing. Score: 3.


PRELIMINARY CONCLUSION: To be assessed in summary following.

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Jim Eshelman wrote:
There isn't a lot of variance in the scores of various things tested, but there is some variance we can check.

Here are the average scores for these 13 events:

For the Arisolar, the DC ingresses had a score of 3.4, and the local (event site) Arisolar 4.0. Although there were some great charts for DC, the average was too low. The location Arisolar hit higher.

For the Capsolar at DC, the ingress itself got 3.8, transits to the ingress angles 3.8, and the Q2 4.3. In fact, the Q2 of the Washington, DC Capsolar was the most significant single factor of everything examined.

For the Capsolar at event locale, the ingress itself got 3.8, transits to the ingress 3.5, and Q2 3.7.

Overall, there were two real stand-outs. One was the Arisolar for event location - it seemed to zoom in better, whereas the Capsolar was broader and worked best from the nation's capital. Second, the Capsolar Q2 for Washington was well above the rest.

Two events had an overall poorer showing than the rest. These were the Waco siege and the Texas City disaster. What startles me about Waco is that the worst-performing chart was the Arisolar for DC; however, these charts suggest that, overall, the DC Arisolar isn't nearly as effective as the DC Capsolar or the location Arisolar. Waco had OK Capsolar variants, but the best was the locale Arisolar.

The other poor-showing event was the Texas City disaster. Again, the DC Arisolar was quite poor, and the local Arisolar was exceptional. The rest of the charts were mediocre except for the Q2 Capsolar for DC.

The single best-scoring event was Lincoln's death (where the local and DC charts were the same). Besides that, Next best were Bay of Pigs, CSA Siege, and Oklahoma City Bombing.

For Lincoln, everything scored well, though all Capsolar techniques outranked the Arisolar

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SteveS wrote:
Jim wrote:
In fact, the Q2 of the Washington, DC Capsolar was the most significant single factor of everything examined.
Very interesting Jim! Do you think this particular analysis is an abnormality for Quotidian hits?

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Jim Eshelman wrote:
SteveS wrote:
Jim Eshelman" wrote:In fact, the Q2 of the Washington, DC Capsolar was the most significant single factor of everything examined.
Very interesting Jim! Do you think this particular analysis is an abnormality for Quotidian hits?
No. It's exactly what Bradley found in the original, that the Q2 of the Capsolar was THE defining marker in most cases.

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SteveS wrote:
Jim wrote:
It's exactly what Bradley found in the original, that the Q2 of the Capsolar was THE defining marker in most cases.
I like the word exactly. Did Bradley ever specifically define certain parameters within a Capsolar itself (maybe in an AA article), which would help us to KNOW when a Q2 Day would be THE ‘defining marker’ for a Capsolar year? If not, would I use the same guidelines you taught in ISR to possibly help define a Q2 marker for a Capsolar before the actual event? Or, when you have time, would you post a condensed set of parameters from your mind which could possibly help us to identify beforehand important Q2 Days for an Ingress Chart and/or a SSR?

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SteveS wrote:Did Bradley ever specifically define certain parameters within a Capsolar itself (maybe in an AA article), which would help us to KNOW when a Q2 Day would be THE ‘defining marker’ for a Capsolar year?
Nope. And, in fact, the Capsolar itself quite commonly doesn't show the event - only its transits and progressions.

Bradley, in the late '60s in an article in an AA yearbook, did suggest that all of the angular crossings should be watched.
If not, would I use the same guidelines you taught in ISR to possibly help define a Q2 marker for a Capsolar before the actual event? Or, when you have time, would you post a condensed set of parameters from your mind which could possibly help us to identify beforehand important Q2 Days for an Ingress Chart and/or a SSR?
I don't think we can filter like that. We have to watch them all. I've not seen that they "filter down" in the fashion of personal charts.

I do have a list here on the forum of isolated astrological events throughout the year that I think bear watching. This was an attempt to focus the task a bit. But it's just a start:
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=532&p=3322#p3322

Right now, we're in the exact Mars-Pluto progressed square of the Cansolar. This has lasted a few weeks. Next up: Tomorrow Neptune exactly squares the Cansolar MC for DC.

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SteveS wrote:
Thanks Jim, this helps with more understanding.

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Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun May 07, 2017 10:42 pm

DDonovanKinsolving wrote:
I wonder whether we should factor in that some of these events were intended (in some cases, alleged) to coincide with an anniversary. E.g., The Boston Marathon with the Battle of Lexington & Concord, and the Columbine shootings with Hitler's Birthday. The OKC bombing was intended to mark the Waco, TX action, and who knows whether that was itself intended as an anniversary event? Just thinking out loud here: if we could trace the root event being perversely commemorated, would that chart show activation by transits and progressions?

-Derek

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Re: Arisolar Events, an incomplete list

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun May 07, 2017 10:42 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
I have posted a more refined, careful version of this study here: http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=494

It supersedes my remarks above.

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