New partnership

Q&A and discussion about Synastry, i.e., relationship analysis through the comparison of two horoscopes.
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Avshalom Binyamin
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New partnership

Post by Avshalom Binyamin » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:09 pm

I am in a new romantic relationship, and I am curious about the synastry. It's been, frankly, pretty amazing.

Me
Date: October 8, 1980
Time: 12:00noon
Place: El Cajon, CA

Her
Date: January 22, 1982
Time: 3:51pm
Place: Mountain View, CA

Does anyone have any insights? I'm frankly overwhelmed looking at all the aspects and am having a hard time figuring out what to focus on.

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Re: New partnership

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:32 pm

I'm going to assume that of the three Mountain Views in California, this is the best known, the one in Santa Clara County.

I sensed a Moon-Mars interchange from your post, and I was right. The only warning this requires is that initial intensity has to be maintained or you get in trouble. The aspect gives the choice of "sex or strife" (one might say, "f... or fight"). It burns hot, and has to stay hot. (To this, in the '70s, I applied Kilgore Trout quote to the effect that time ends all things, including immortal love.)

Quick first impressions:

Her Moon squares your Moon. Her Mars conjoins your Sun and Moon. Her Jupiter conjoin your Mercury. Strong simpatico, fierce ten-alarm fire sexual attraction, great strength to be able to be comrades-at-arms as well, and ... ah, new topic... she likes, supports, and praises your words and how you think.

Your Jupiter (and, lesser, Saturn) is on her IC. Your Moon and Sun conjoin her Mars. Your Mercury conjoins her Jupiter. Oh, and your Sun closely squares her Asc. This is pretty positive in several ways, reiterating the flip view of it, and also showing what looks more like business partner capacity (all the spin-off things that would support that, and could also help other relationships).Oh, and your Venus exactly squares her Uranus, which opens wide lots or erotic doors and possibilities. Fagan used to say that this marks romances while travelling; what I'm sure he meant was opportunistic romances. Again, the dynamic requires that things be kept new and unfolding and varying - hitting a stretch of boredom *er, let's say, "less excitement") is the foe.


Getting more detailed, viewing as if transits:

Her birth seen as an "event" in your life:
t Neptune sq. r Jupiter 19'
t Neptune oct. r Mercury 19' [midpoint 0']
t Uranus sq. r Venus 44'
t Saturn conj. r Pluto 43'
t Mars conj. r Sun 54'

This isn't quite as one-sided hot-and-bothered as the first aff. Frankly, it suggests something is being withheld from you to your detriment. I suggest you read the transits one by one to draw your conclusions on what kind of event this would be - I'm rushing to get out the door (and out of the state) and don't want my haste to mislead.

Flipping this around, we get your birth seen as an "event" in her life:

t Pluto conj. r Saturn 43'
t Jupiter sq. r Neptune 19'
t Sun conj. r Mars 54'
t Venus sq. r Uranus 44'
t Mercury oct. r Neptune 19'

This is a different feel. You kinda rock her world. This may mean you shake her security on first impression, but your presence fundamentally soothes that anxiety, gives her a sense that her worst anxieties can relax. You stir strength and a sense of variety and adventure in her.

This is very fast, my friend. Please catch my mistakes and read through the interpretations yourself, maybe using this layout as a guide. I'm quite happy to hear you so excited. Your new SSR (you're still in Portland, yes?) has an exact Venus-Pluto mundane square minutes from the angles - basically, it means divorce, eloping, or both! Intense, dramatic shifts in relationships mark the new year. Since the angular Venus is closely conjunct your Jupiter, this may be one of those wedding moments! A Sun-Mercury conjunction squares Ascendant, which alerts me that your new SSR angles are nearly identical to her natal angles.
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Re: New partnership

Post by Avshalom Binyamin » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:04 pm

Thank you for your reply!
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:32 pm
Santa Clara County
Correct.
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:32 pm
initial intensity has to be maintained or you get in trouble
I can see that. I would say that the sexual connection is probably a relationship cornerstone, for better or worse.

The other comments seem spot on. I experience the relationship as an intense sexual connection, but also a practical, business-like partnering with lots of autonomy.
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:32 pm
t Neptune sq. r Jupiter 19'
t Neptune oct. r Mercury 19' [midpoint 0']
t Uranus sq. r Venus 44'
t Saturn conj. r Pluto 43'
t Mars conj. r Sun 54'

This isn't quite as one-sided hot-and-bothered as the first aff. Frankly, it suggests something is being withheld from you to your detriment. I suggest you read the transits one by one to draw your conclusions on what kind of event this would be - I'm rushing to get out the door (and out of the state) and don't want my haste to mislead.
Interesting. In general, I've been the slow, patient one about the emotional pace of this relationship, and she's been more eager and impatient.

Neptune/Jupiter: I perceive her as a bit of a hustler, working a plan and an angle at any given point. I like that about her, but I do also have trust issues, and worry about being taken advantage of.

Neptune/Mercury: I experience reality with her as being more dreamlike and symbolic. I feel like an absent-minded professor around her--a bit bumbling and forgetful.

Uranus/Venus: lots of experimentation/variety. Little jealousy or off-limit ideas (we're both polyamorous and kinky).

Saturn/Pluto: I like the independence when we're not together, but I notice I do have to work to share my feelings so that I'm not distancing myself.

Mars/Sun: We tend to want to do it all, egg each other on, etc.

In short, I have ambivalent feelings sometimes. I'm not used to meeting my sexual equal. And as a divorced dad who is poly/kinky, I didn't expect to meet someone who would be compatible on both sides of those pretty different life arenas.

But then my commitment and trust issues have me squeezing the brakes about moving too quick to mingle our domestic or financial lives.
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Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:32 pm
Your new SSR (you're still in Portland, yes?) has an exact Venus-Pluto mundane square minutes from the angles - basically, it means divorce, eloping, or both! Intense, dramatic shifts in relationships mark the new year. Since the angular Venus is closely conjunct your Jupiter, this may be one of those wedding moments! A Sun-Mercury conjunction squares Ascendant, which alerts me that your new SSR angles are nearly identical to her natal angles.
Yes, still in Portland.

But I don't want to get married again!! I feel like I'm barely divorced. :lol:

We are going to a wedding October 28, where I will be a member of the bridal party, and my new Tango Trio will be debuting as wedding entertainment. Maybe that's the symbolism?

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Re: New partnership

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:53 pm

Avshalom Binyamin wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:04 pm
We are going to a wedding October 28, where I will be a member of the bridal party, and my new Tango Trio will be debuting as wedding entertainment. Maybe that's the symbolism?
I doubt it. This is far more personal than that. (Sure, debuting a music group can be an expression, but it's not the big expression.)
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Re: New partnership

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:06 am

Venus conj Jupiter has other meanings besides just "wedding." It just suggests a happy, productive and prosperous time for you. Maybe you get your confidence in relationships back.

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