Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

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Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue May 16, 2017 10:32 pm

Posted Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:11 pm by StarAgeWiz
Helen Boyd along with Firebrace wrote several articles in the long out of print SPICA Journal. There, Boyd gave many examples of the effectiveness of her research when the Colonies declared war on England..e.g. 7/6/1775, 11:00 am LMT, Philadelphia, Pa.
Using this chart as the birth chart for the USA calculated many Solunars over the course of various wars the US has fought as well as other pivotal events
Examples... beginnings and endings of the War of 1812, WWI, WWII and the first atomic bomb test in New Mexico. Apparently the Boyd Chart Solunars scored many "angular" hits.

So checking the Boyd US natal and subsequent SSR for 2001 & progressing the SSQ to 9/11/2001 gives the following angular aspects.

SSQ: MC 5sag34/ASC 5pi51
tr. IC Moon 3gem18, tr. MC Mars6sag40....911 Attack transits T-SQ aspect to Boyd natal Desc. Mars 5vi46

dbl Mars whammy to tr. Moon from the Angles ....a very good description of the fiery attack on the WTC me thinks.

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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu May 18, 2017 6:50 pm

Posted Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:07 pm by SteveS
Mike, I have not worked with the Boyd chart but agree with the 9/11 symbolism you presented but I think Pluto should someway be involved in the 9/11 symbolism. Have you done any work with the Boyd chart on the Pearl Harbor attack?

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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu May 18, 2017 6:50 pm

Posted Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:27 pm by gary903
SteveS wrote:
Mike, I have not worked with the Boyd chart but agree with the 9/11 symbolism you presented but I think Pluto should someway be involved in the 9/11 symbolism...
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I know this is an old topic, but maybe someone would like to see the Boyd Lunar Return preceding the 911 attack.
It features the prominent Pluto which SteveS wanted. I prefer 11:00 am LMT for the Boyd chart. The alternate time later in the afternoon wouldn't show the paran T-square of Pluto, Sun, and Saturn. Also radical Venus is on the Lunar's Descendant and radical Jupiter is on the I.C.
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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu May 18, 2017 6:51 pm

Posted Thu Apr 14, 2011 9:54 pm by Jim Eshelman
gary903 wrote:
I know this is an old topic

At the moment, everything on this forum is an old topic! <vbg>

BTW did I mention someplace how the SSR and SLR of the Declaration of Independence chart was for 9/11? The SSR had a Mars-Pluto conjunction on the Westpoint (Mars within minutes; Pluto about a degree and a half in RA). The SLR had transiting Mars rising opposite and even more angular natal Mars on the Descendant.

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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu May 18, 2017 6:52 pm

Posted Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:49 pm by SteveS
Yes Sir! The SLR is impressive covering 9/11—a triple whammy of angular Mars. The SSR is somewhat peculiar with Me-Jup conjunction rising for a major attack event. Do you allow the EP/WP axis the same strength for expressing the symbolism of angular planets as the ASC/DES axis?

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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu May 18, 2017 6:52 pm

Posted Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:52 pm by Jim Eshelman
SteveS wrote:
The SSR is somewhat peculiar with Me-Jup conjunction rising for a major attack event. Do you allow the EP/WP axis the same strength for expressing the symbolism of angular planets as the ASC/DES axis?

The EP/WP are full-on angles, yes (though the orb is only 3° and should always be measured in Right Ascension).

In this case we have:
Jupiter conj Asc 4°32' (Prime Vertical)
Mercury conj Asc 5°10' (Prime Vertical)
Mars conj WP 0°16' (RA)
Pluto conj WP 1°37' (RA)
Pluto sq MC 0°14' (longitude)

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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu May 18, 2017 6:53 pm

Posted Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:46 pm by SteveS
Jim wrote:
The EP/WP are full-on angles, yes (though the orb is only 3° and should always be measured in Right Ascension).

Thanks Jim! You have just taught me another important detail pertaining to the EP-WP axis and Right Ascension.

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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu May 18, 2017 6:54 pm

Posted Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:24 pm by Jim Eshelman
SteveS wrote:
Jim wrote:
The EP/WP are full-on angles, yes (though the orb is only 3° and should always be measured in Right Ascension).

Thanks Jim! You have just taught me another important detail pertaining to the EP-WP axis and Right Ascension.

The only theoretical basis for the importance of the EP/WP has always seemed to me to be that it is the square to the MC along the Celestial Equator. The point we put in the chart is simply the celestial longitude that the ecliptic has at that RA. - But that has to be an approximation.

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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by SteveS » Fri May 19, 2017 6:30 am

Thanks JSAD for bringing these posts over to new site, I had forgotten about these post. In the last two weeks, I have finally done some serious personal research with this Boyd Chart, and am convinced it is an accurate timed chart. Dealing with USA charts, we never know for sure which chart will accurately fore tell a future event, but if this Boyd Chart is going to activate itself with symbolic symbolism over its next solar year with it's 2017 SSR, imo, the US/Trump are in 'Clear & Present Danger.'

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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by staragewiz » Fri May 19, 2017 3:18 pm

Steve,

Here's a part of a reply that I received from an inquiry from the Library of Congress on what was the time of day the 2nd Cont. Congress agreed on a Declaration Of Taking Up Of Arms against England on 6 July 1775. (more rectification blues :-))

"Although it does not appear that an exact time was ever recorded for its adoption, we were able to locate a letter written by John Adams to William Tudor, July 6, 1775, in which he wrote, "We have Spent this whole Day in debating Paragraph by Paragraph, a Manifesto as some call it, or a Declaration of the Causes and Necessity of our taking up Arms. It will be printed Tomorrow, and shall be transmitted as Soon as possible." https://founders.archives.gov/documents ... 03-02-0036 https://founders.archives.gov/documents ... 03-02-0036
I like this speculative time for late afternoon 6 July 1775.... 5 pm LMT
As it gives a Libra Moon which may indicate the 'Legal" document with Mars/Satun MC paran-sq Jupiter DESC
angular well describes to me the bloody war ahead and the warlike nature America was to become.
Too many wars!!

Yet to test this time for rectification purposes but looks like a good candidate..

correction: Natal Chart...not Relocation as in chart wheel.
mistakenly first calculated for NYC.

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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri May 19, 2017 3:30 pm

The 11:00 AM time does behave remarkably well, especially for matters of war. If it were to be definitely proven that what we think is the most important event (adoption) occurred at a different time, I think the evidence is so strong for 11:00 AM that we'd have to ask, "What event occurred then?"

It's like... we spent decades praising the July 4, 1776 chart for the signing of the Declaration of Independence, because that's what we learned in school; but, as the historic record became better developed and more available, it became clear that it wasn't signed by anyone on that day or for weeks after. However, it was ratified by vote on 7/4/1776, and that seems to be the astrologically significant act for what has long proven itself the best of many contenders for the U.S. chart.
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Re: Boyd USA Chart... 911, SSQ

Post by SteveS » Fri May 19, 2017 3:54 pm

Thank you so much Mike, I love analyzing America’s history along with historical events with Sidereal Mundane Astrology. I am looking forward to receiving your SPICA articles with Boyd’s & Firebrace discussions.
Mike, when you have time, using the 11:00 AM LMT, calculate Boyd’s Oct 10 Quarti SSR, noting the partile Sun-Mars 180. Then calculate the Quarti’s SSR Quotidians to Dec 8, 1941, and Dec 11, 1941. Let me know your opinion for these two quotidians. Thanks again Mike.

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