Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas)

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Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas)

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:42 pm

About 11PM MT, at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas during the Harvest Country Music Festival, on October 1, 2017 at least 20 people were injured in a shooting. A cab driver who evacuated people from the area said it sounded like machine gun fire. The number of injured is expected to climb.

ETA: footage being shown on overnight news sounds like an automatic weapon. Rapid fire.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas)

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:11 am

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:42 pm
About 11PM MT, at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas during the Harvest Country Music Festival, on October 1, 2017 at least 20 people were injured in a shooting. A cab driver who evacuated people from the area said it sounded like machine gun fire. The number of injured is expected to climb.

ETA: footage being shown on overnight news sounds like an automatic weapon. Rapid fire.
October 1, 2017, 11:00 PM, Las Vegas, NV

Earlier today, I mentioned that there was nothing much happening in the Las Vegas charts last night (that was relevant to a different kind of event). Is anything different tonight?

In terms of a mass shooting, we start with one of the most characteristic aspects: The CAPSOLAR has a Venus-Neptune conjunction at MC (with Mercury setting). The Caplunar is dormant, though the most angular planets are, again, Venus-Neptune (both widely square Ascendant).

Transits to Capsolar continue the pattern, with transiting Neptune partile conjunct Midheaven on solar Venus. (Transiting Venus is just too far past the IC to count as a double-up.)

With the passage of 24 hours, the CanQ comes alive with Mars (partile square Uranus) on Eastpoint.
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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas)

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:37 am

It appears the first 911 calls on the shooting were at 10:08 PM, and Las Vegas is in the Pacific Time Zone.
There's an excess of 100 victims and excess of 20 dead. The shooter was a local resident, and is dead on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel. One officer in critical condition, one minor injuries, but there were "a couple" off-duty police officers at the concert who were killed.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas)

Post by UncleAries » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:07 am

It didnt happen in Las Vegas, it was in Paradise, Nevada 22:08 pm PDT

CAPlunar is active
Saturn sq MC 1deg35min or on eastpoint westpoint in RA 2deg44min
Venus sq ASC 2deg53min
Mercury on MC 7deg 15min mundo
Mars on MC 8deg12min mundo

The shooter:
Stephen Paddock April 9, 1953. Mesquite, Nev residence
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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas)

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:20 am

Overnight, this exploded into a whole new level, pushing past the prior U.S. record of 53 deaths in a mass shooting. So, from the top...

October 1, 2017, 10:08 PM, Las Vegas, NV (36N05'42'', 115W10'18'')

On the Las Vegas Strip, from the Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino across the street, a 67-year-old man fired over 1,100 rounds from an automatic weapon into a crowd of 30,000 people attending the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival. The numbers keep going up, but, at the moment, 851 are wounded and 59 are dead [UPDATED] (including the shooter). This is now the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.

Saturn was setting as the shots were fired.

Year: Capsolar
Venus on MC (0°20')
Mercury on Dsc (0°58')
Neptune on MC (2°38')
-- Mercury-Venus sq. (1°18' in mundo)
-- Venus-Neptune conj. (2°00')
Mars & Saturn more widely foreground
-- Mars-Saturn sq. (2°52')

Bridge
t Neptune conj. s MC (0°21')

Quarter: Cansolar (Dormant.) Moon-Uranus conj. (3°57')

Quarter: Arisolar
Pluto on Dsc (2°43')
Venus more widely foreground

XTRA: Saturn sq. the angular Venus (0°49')

Month: Caplunar
Saturn sq. MC (1°33')
Venus widely sq. Asc, Mercury & Mars widely foreground
-- Me/Ma on MC (0°25')
-- Venus-Mars conj. (3°30' in mundo)
Moon-Uranus conj. (2°20')
Moon-Jupiter conj. (2°43')

XTRA: Neptune op. angular Venus (0°07' in mundo), op. angular Mars (3°16')

Day: Capsolar Transits
t Neptune conj. s MC (0°21')
t Mercury sq. s Asc (1°53')

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits
p MC conj. p Moon (0°06')
ADD: This was within a week of the exact progressed Venus-Neptune conjunction.

SUMMARY
Year (+3): Mercury Venus Neptune (Mars Saturn). Mercury-Venus Venus-Neptune Mars-Saturn.
Bridge (+2): Neptune (Cap).
Quarter: (Dormant.) Moon-Uranus.
Quarter (Arisolar, +2): Pluto (Venus).
Month (+2): Saturn (Mercury Venus Mars). Moon-Jupiter Moon-Uranus Me/Ma Venus-Mars.
Day (Capsolar transits, +2): Mercury Neptune.
Day (CanQ, 0): Moon. Venus-Neptune.
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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas)

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:35 am

As this will be a significant "national impact" moment, it's worth checking the Washington charts. First, the prevailing lunar ingress was the prior Canlunar, about which this was written almost two months ago:
Mercury-Mars in partile foreground conjunction are supported by Su/Me and Su/Ma midpoints on Midheaven. Combative speech, mobilization of strategy and aggression, and combative action in lieu of diplomacy continue.

Angular Neptune signals extreme excitement: madness, confusion, uncertainty, disorientation, and a gripping sense of, “So, what happens now?” The specific causes could be many (see SMA), but expect both mindless herd-torrents and waves of people driven by a shared vision.

Besides the foreground Neptune and Mars, Saturn closely squares the foreground Sun. This anticipates sad, immobilizing events...

This is a striking example of a chart for Washington applying to another location in the country for a national-level event. If this chart occurred for Las Vegas itself, we would be swooning over the clear hit - and perhaps we should anyway.

Anticipating exactly this kind of event, the forecast cited the following DC quotidian contacts. (I get tired of repeating the same predictions all the time, even when they likely will be right. The planet combinations mentioned are written in SMA as describing this kind of event.)
CapQ angles touch Pluto October 2-3, and approach Uranus by the end of the week. Of great importance, the Cansolar's Venus-Neptune progression crosses Washington's CanQ angles September 30 and October 4, when they will surely be of great importance. (Transiting Venus and Mars accompany them throughout the week.)
Specific daily timing for Washington included:

CapQ Asc sq. t Pluto (0°32')
CapQ EP op. t Sun (0°52')
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CanQ Asc conj. t Venus (0°01'), op. s Neptune (0°52')
-- t Venus op. s Neptune (0°53')
CanQ MC conj. s Venus (1°04'), sq. t Neptune (0°34')
-- t Neptune sq. s Venus (0°15')

This is quite remarkable!
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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas) [shooting]

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:59 am

Official count is 58 dead, over 500 injured.

The 64 year old shooter's girlfriend was in the Philippines at the time. Marilou Denly's birthdate, according to her driver's license which was shown on tv, was born 12-12-54.

It was an hour and 12 minutes between the first call to police and when the door to the shooter's room was breeched and the shooter was confirmed dead.

Somebody from Isis is trying to claim responsibility for this attack but nobody believes that.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas)

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:09 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:35 am
(I get tired of repeating the same predictions all the time, even when they likely will be right. The planet combinations mentioned are written in SMA as describing this kind of event.)
Time to write up some boiler plate you can just insert into your forecasts? Control+666.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas) [shooting]

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:27 am

LOL, I don't want to take up the room (or be increasingly boring) by saying, "Oh, and mass murder shootings" every time Venus-Neptune shows up on angles. But then, I also get tired of saying "rain" whenever Jupiter is there, but we're normally incredibly right about that.
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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas) [shooting]

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:47 am

2:41 PM Eastern President and Vice-president, First and Second ladies walked out on the White House Lawn where the White House Staff was lined up, stood while a bell sounded a couple of times and walked back into the White House. I gather that was a moment of silence, and probably about the Las Vegas shootings. I hope they will include victims of the hurricanes in the narrative when they talk about that.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas) [shooting]

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:15 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:27 am
LOL, I don't want to take up the room (or be increasingly boring) by saying, "Oh, and mass murder shootings" every time Venus-Neptune shows up on angles. But then, I also get tired of saying "rain" whenever Jupiter is there, but we're normally incredibly right about that.
Well, that boils down to do you want your forecasts noted for how accurate they are or not? If you'd posted something on facebook saying venus-neptune on the angles (mass shootings) and did it consistantly, it might get you, your forecasts, & Sidereal astrology some notice for accuracy.

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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas) [shooting]

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:25 pm

You're right.

And rain. "Right as rain" is easy with SMA.

And "either (1) fires, (2) destructive and forceful natural disasters, or (3) extreme violence" is nearly always right.

Pick a flood-prone part of the country and watch either Saturn-Neptune or Jupiter-Uranus move through and say "floods," you'll almost certainly be right.
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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas) [shooting]

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:24 am

Oh, I didn't miss predicting this with Venus-Neptune (at least, not everywhere). For this October 1 event, this is from the current month's forecast. (Emphasis added.)
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All year, Venus squares Neptune in the Cansolar. On October 7 progressed Cansolar Venus aspects Neptune exactly, and stays exact to the minute of arc for several days on either side. Experience shows that these perfecting aspects are quite important in world events, and we can expect to see a very full expression of Venus-Neptune concentrated on these dates, providing an excellent opportunity to study their effects in world news. In mundane astrology, we expect this aspect to show intense devotion, passionate belief, compelling fantasy or role-playing, performance art, disillusionment, betrayed alliances, perceived offenses, and diplomatic embarrassment or loss of esteem. It is also the most distinctive form of afflicted Venus for mass murders by shooting. Keep an ear to the news for a sudden surge in these themes.
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Re: Mandalay Bay Hotel Shooting (Las Vegas) [shooting]

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:33 pm

It appears we have a time for the shooter's birth.
Stephen Paddock
April 9, 1953 11:05AM CST
Clinton, IA
Birth Certificate, AA Roddan Rating.

Sun 25 Pisces 27 opposing Neptune 28 Virgo 31
Moon 28 Capricorn 11 opposing Pluto 26 Cancer 50
Venus 01 Aries 16 opposing Saturn 00 Libra 13
Mars 20 Aries 41
Mercury 29 Aquarius 46
Jupiter 29 Aries 09
Uranus 20 Gemini 29
Asc 28 Gemini 32 03 Gemini 22 in Las Vegas
MC 09 Pisces 57 12 Aquarius 57 in Las Vegas

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