Settings Progressed Charts

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Post by FlorencedeZ. » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:44 am

Kindly, would somebody be able to help me in identifying the following:

When I compare my SF calculations for natal charts with the calculations mentioned on the Forum they are almost always the same. However when I progress charts (Nailbod in RA), like for example Donald Trump's chart to the White House, I do not get the same results. Saturn conjunct MC is now his reigning progression. viewtopic.php?f=46&t=1551&p=9555&hilit= ... rump#p9555
I get:
p. MC 2°52' Cancer
p. Saturn 8°46' Cancer
Thank you in advance,
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:49 am

That's because I'm not using Naibod in RA, something I abandoned several years ago. I now think the correct rate in Solar Arc in Longitude.
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Post by FlorencedeZ. » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:03 am

Thank you Jim. When I use Solar Arc in Longitude, I get:
p. MC 5°16' Cancer
p. Saturn 8°46' Cancer

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:15 am

FlorencedeZ. wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:03 am
Thank you Jim. When I use Solar Arc in Longitude, I get:
p. MC 5°16' Cancer
p. Saturn 8°46' Cancer
Progressing to today (this moment), I get:

p MC 8°27' Cancer
p Saturn 8°46' Cancer

Are you using a birth time of 10:54 AM, with natal MC 0°23' Taurus?
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Post by FlorencedeZ. » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:36 am

Yes, correct.
I get natal MC 0°22' Taurus.

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Post by FlorencedeZ. » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:43 am

Natal Chart:
Donald Trump
14 June 1946, 10:54AM, EDT +4:00, Jamaica, New York
40°N41'29'' 073°W48'22''
Fagan-Allen, Campanus, True Node

Relocation to the White House
40°N41'29'' 073°W48'22''

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Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:59 am

Are you using a relocated chart? I don't think Jim is. He said recently he thought the progressed chart should be drawn for where the person was during the years covered by the progressions.

For Trump that would be Jamaica Hospital in Queens, NY. (Not Jamaica, NY, on Long Island, which confuses a lot of people.) He grew up in Jamaica Estates, which is also Queens, not Long Island. I'm not sure Solar Fire knows the difference.
Jamaica Estates: 40.7179° N, 73.7743° W
Jamaica Hospital: 40.7009° N, 73.8165° W
Jamaica, NY: 40.699783° N, 73.786026° W

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:35 am

Yes, I think that's it: You are looking at the relocated progressed angles and missing the natal ones. For Washington, his progressed MC this minute is 5°17' Cancer.

I think both are valid, but the natal is the more important. (Not true with Quotidians, which seem more in present time and only work locally.)
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Post by FlorencedeZ. » Sun Aug 20, 2017 2:29 pm

Dear Jim and JSAD, thank you so much for your helpful advice. This clarifies everything for me.
It worked perfectly as explained by you.
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Flo

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