Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Aug 11, 2018 4:28 pm

Your progressed Neptune and progressed Venus are within 0°35 of each 45° of other and moving closer.

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Soft Alpaca » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:58 pm

Veronica wrote:
Sat Aug 11, 2018 3:58 pm
This *is* a joke

Dude: your gloomy and evil yet bubbly? You do realize that you just embraced an arch enemy of SpongeBobSquare pants right?

https://youtu.be/xYqnVvWeqCc
Honestly I kind of hate sponge bob. So i don't mind being the dirty bubble. Im not evil, I have some twisted and or cynnical morals, but people don't like long words so they use evil. I'm only gloomy because when I get in a bad mood swing i like to stay there. I also admire the process of life and death more than some do, I find peace in graveyards and the such. [I had senior pictures taken on a wooded graveyard with people hurried from the 17-18 hundreds.]

This is where I'm at in terms of relative evilness. If I date a shorter person than me I may on occasion put stuff a shelf higher than their reach and maybe watch them struggle to reach it because it's kind of cute.

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Soft Alpaca » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:01 pm

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
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Your progressed Neptune and progressed Venus are within 0°35 of each 45° of other and moving closer.
I'm not sure how to take this. I've always been a romantic person, is this where you were going?

I understand how Neptune is described to me in the aspect of my wild imagination. However I haven't ever thought about Venus energy on its own (let alone with a planet like Neptune) because every time I have Venus activated in my life it comes with Mars.

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:24 pm

Your progressed Venus and (progressed and natal) Neptune were in sextile within 1° from March 2006 until May 2005 until March 2007, then in semi-square September 2017 to February 2019.

Here's a summary of some of the more important themes of a natal Venus-Neptune aspect:
Idealistic, future-looking, longs to be enchanted. Wants things perfect. Can become jaded, disillusioned, and cynical from repeated hurtful betrayals. Emotions run strong. Most sees beauty in people and things, thus has blind spots (especially in romance). Trusting, naturally confident of others’ goodness (poor discrimination in selecting friends). Good-hearted, caretakes others, devoted friends, romantic, humanitarian. Natural people-readers (when not personally involved), natural psychologists.


Here is an interpretation of Neptune transiting Venus:
Romantic idealism fills you. Your temperament leans toward the emotional and sentimental. The beautiful in people and things catches (and holds) your attention, with all the advantages and problems that can bring. Positively, your heightened esthetic sense is attuned to the world's beauty, fueling your soul with wonders if only you pay attention. Imagery captivates. You are open to fresh levels of sensual delight. More of a problem is a sometimes undue naïve confidence in people's innate goodness, wearing blinders to their faults, particularly in romance (possible romantic disappointment). You pursue an unreachable love object (e.g., involvement with someone already romantically committed; spiritual devotion, seeking a "wedding with God;" having an exalted ideal for a lover that cannot be met, etc.). Yet, in your quest is pleasure. You are more vulnerable to disappointment and more emotional; but the basic tone of the time is enjoyable, even Utopian.
The progression can be expected to be a blend of the two of these.
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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Soft Alpaca » Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:07 pm

The first one already describes me to a t.... but less trusting of course.

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Soft Alpaca » Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:03 pm

I'm noting somethings. Saturn energy on this sight other than from Mr. E, seems more and more unwelcome. I have members who see the reduction of oneself as a bad idea. My unorthodox Pluto side is also not taking as a good influence, seemingly in astrology thinking or feeling differently is incompatible to it's function, as if we don't have clean clear cut standards people will not embrace it. Noting that people like things nicely wrapped up (I myself may very well be guilty of this too).

The first thing I will try to reduce some on this site is my Mercury-Mars as it is the voice to my arguing, then I'll work on my solar energy as it is part of me being so self involved. Then the hardest for last is to reduce to unorthodox nature if Pluto so I can help aid in drawing more people to astrology by not adding inconsistency or weird/odd counter views.

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Soft Alpaca » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:42 pm

The best way I can describe Neptune at this point in time is haunting. No matter where I seem to go and what I seem to do people are pointing at me and saying Neptune. They see that I am an empath and I have a more hazy nature, that is i tend to be very flowing and moody and frequently change.

For what ever reason I'm not seen as a fixed person, which is ok. However the incongruency is driving me batty.

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Veronica » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:03 am

not to sound judgmental or jumping to conclusions but you often come across to me as a kid who is smoking or popping too much. don't know if its true and its none of my business your choices its just an impression I have gotten reading your posts. It might be something else that gives me the impression your under some influences besides life, IDK. All I can say about that is I would recommend you lay off substances (maybe you drink to much Mountain Dew? maybe you don't get enough sunshine and fresh air? maybe the wifi signal is messing with your brain wave patterns? IDK? NMB) and do your best to be as substance free and natural as the human body was built to be.

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Soft Alpaca » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:13 pm

Tbh people are actualy the issue. Not one person in particular, but too much communication drives me batty. When I miss communicate it causes stress or anxiety then I'll smoke a ciggeret or drink or take something that i shouldn't. If I distance myself from people I'm perfectly fine. Like too much out side stimulation and influence isn't good for me. Espicaly because im sponge'-like and i adapt to the environment, if there is too much inconsistency within it, I glich out.

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:21 pm

That sponge-like character is so interesting because - while something we know how to identify astrologically very well - the typical factors for it aren't in your chart at all.

One might expect it if your birth were closer to 4:30, 5:30, or 11:20 AM or 5:00 or 10:45 PM. (The 5:00 PM would cost you your Pluto traits, but it remains for the other three.)

Or, taking the second most likely to fit that, times of around 2:10, or 9:15 AM or 2:10 PM (the last of which is a most lugubrious chart).

FWIW. (I don't suppose there's another relative you haven't told us about, insisting you were born around one of these times? <vbg>)
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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Soft Alpaca » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:16 pm

It was in the early am (consistent by 5 people) my mother had been in labor sense the evening before. It was about roughly 12 hours of labor.

Below are the direct texts from my birth father.
......

"It was winter also. It was dark out

715 to 720. We were there at 9pm the night before. It was a long nighy

Went to hardeys for mashed potatoes for your mom 3 times

The third time they gave them to me for free. Lol"
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Yes I'm known as moody and sponge like. I take in my environment and that's why I'm an empath. Ever walk into a place and feel like someone has died there? Or can you feel the atmosphere of the class room change when certian people walk through the door? I have an iron will on my feelings in public, I may not express how i feel being there [however I'm not perfect and the mask only lasts for so long].

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Soft Alpaca » Tue Aug 14, 2018 10:32 pm

I've got an event that's more recent. I didn't say it for fear of being acussed of going batty.

It was the 27th of last month maybe 3:21 pm. Near Scranton PA.

I say a flying Scorpion. It was large (aircraft size) no wings just a normal scorpion. A red black color. Clawing it's way downward through the sky.

I had begun to ask without thinking to my mom in the driver's seat, mom why is there a giant scorpion in the sky. She then (now I was in the process of saying oh it's just a plane) asked me if I was dehydrated or feeling ok. [I don't see things like that. Could have been an one but I often don't get those when I'm awake].

Update my grandma Wanda has my birth time closer to 6:30 am. Although she says the Sun was up.

She says earlier time with the Sun up, He says later time with the Sun down. Eye rolls and my mom was too drugged up to know anything around my birth time.

Her words.
"I just remember it was cold and a little overcast when you were born, although it was daylight you couldn't see the sun, and we had a few flurries that morning"

I don't trust institutions to record the birth chart (there is a possibility the hospital got it wrong, being born at 7:30 on the dot sounds shadey]. I don't trust my dad or my grandma Wandas oppion he was 17 she has inconsistencies within her report's. Unless there is some way when the Sun was up an hour before it comes up and the doctors were an hour off. But hey it did flurry that moring and it was overcast so she did remember the weather.

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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Feb 20, 2021 3:52 pm

It occurred to me, with your recent interest in fixed stars, that you might be interested in those with close-orbed contact to your angles and planets.

You have Achernar in Eridanus at 29°10' of the 3rd house, i.e., 0°50' from IC. Since you were born at sunrise, this also means that Achernar crosses IC as your Sun rises: they are in 1°38' mundane square.

You have Arcturus in Bootes on your Midheaven within 0°05'. This also means Arcturus culminates as your Sun rises: It is 0°43' from mundane square to your Sun. If the stars have any real value, Arcturus, the Guardian, should be of extreme importance to you.

Following the theory I'm currently exploring that fixed stars only connect to plans by paran, I'll mention that your Moon has connection to Rasalhague, Deneb, and El Nath. (Moon culminates as the first two rise together. Moon sets with El Nath on IC.) Your Sun has the mundane aspects just mentioned to the exactly angular Achernar and Arcturus, and paran connections to three other major stars (but I won't clog this with an unending list).

A few other paran connections that are theoretically important:

Mercury has the same RA as Rasalhague (i.e., they culminate together). It sets with Unukalhai and Kaus Australis. Venus has the same RA as Alphecca (they culminate together). Your Mars has a close paran with Aldebaran and another with Vega.
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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Soft Alpaca » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:52 pm

"reputation of achieving "justice through power." It therefore makes the native belligerent and quarrelsome, especially if attached to Mars and Jupiter by conjunction. A really go-ahead and enterprising spirit is here the rule, as indicated by Jupiter-Mars. Lasting success is promised if further good aspects are present. If critically aspected, the good influence will be hampered or made into a real handicap. If involved in legal action, such a native may lose all."

The guardian/bear theme also fits extremely well (bear as in to bear weight makes sense just as well as guardian here), and Mars energy acting on my sun with Jupiter and Uranus would make sense.

For the moon El Nath is said to be Mars-Mercury, Deneb is said to be Venus and Mercury. Rasalhauge I've always been interested in- snake charmer star (it's said to be Saturn-Venus).
I've always had a liking to Rasalhauge, the snake charmer. This puts Saturn heavy on the moon still, with Pluto. Venus, Mars, and Mercury hints on the moon will all be taken as Mars energy (as in Mars signs +Mars aspected, when I use them, I'm simply using Mars).

All in all I would sum up this as my middle ground Mars is more highlighted (luminated) than one may think. My ego/emotional core is funneled into Snake charming and Bearer themes. For my foreground planets "ambition, freedom, sublimity, [flood]bearing core" are words that fit me well). (Mars-Uranus-Jupiter-Eris + Saturn-Pluto)

Also I took time to look into Achernar. Same Mars-Uranus-Jupiter ideas for my sun again.
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Re: Natal Chart - Scarlet Depths

Post by Soft Alpaca » Sun Feb 21, 2021 2:57 pm

Mars with Vega (Jupiter-Venus) themes are already very in place with the aspects Mars has to both of those planets (one being in a Mars sign, the other in a place not unfriendly to the red giant).

Exalted Mars with Aldebaran.. now that's just cruel Jim!

And if this is all true Jim, it's most definitely ironic. Aldebaran would definitely suffice to cover the resurfaced frist name I chose "scarlet depths"(!).

Also I note that the key words from these stars are summed up by other things in my chart, but still.

"Bearing, Charming, Explosive" (for example)

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