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Post by Veronica » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:13 am

Hi!
I was a member along time ago, I'm an aspiring star gazer and have found astrology to be my greatest tool in self understanding. Its a rock that grounds me and gives me perspective. I am at what appears to be a crossroads in my life (again) and want to make the most of the potential that I know is surrounding me. I had a silly thought that this year was going to be successful because I was born 2/18 and this year is 2018.....but I feel like that is just rasping for straws but is still kinda cool because not many people will ever have that happen.

Name on forum: Veronica
Birth date: Feb. 18 1971
Birth time: 11:41 AM
Birth place: Rochester, NY
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Current Residence: Scottsville, NY

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Re: Veronica

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:57 am

Welcome back! I'm really happy to see you here on the new site.

Let me give you something we've been working on. It's a partially automated system of giving the basic parts of a Sidereal natal interpretation. This isn't a full (real) interpretation, of course - just individual pieces - with all the strengths and, especially weaknesses of such a system. But you might find it fun and interesting, and be able to give feedback.

It will take me a few minutes to work it up, then I'll post it right below.
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Re: Veronica

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ANGULAR PLANETS
Angular planets are the most expressive in your horoscope. Later in this report, you will see each of them listed with their aspects (which show the way each interacts with other planets). Here follows the meaning of any angular planet(s) in your horoscope.
Angular Pluto (square Ascendant (0°34')
Social outliers needing to be authentically themselves, without labels or arbitrary standards or expectations. Eccentric, antisocial, outrageous; won’t melt into the conventional collective; singularly unique in their context, on their own path (vulnerable to persecution). Gentle, inoffensive, innocent, shy. Grapples with spiritual actualities.

MOON
Moon in Scorpio

Socially active party-people: good-natured, friendly, humor. Willing to be outlandish. Factually forthright; emotionally cautious (withholding); senses others’ motives. Sexual volcanoes: built pressure needs explosive release. Sexually pragmatic. Frequent relationship drama; combative. Easy to anger (it passes). Bold, adventurous, restless, “try anything.” Gossip (sometimes vindictive). Beliefs likely unorthodox.

Moon Conjunct Neptune (0°56')
Sensitive – often too much! Tunes into others on an emotional (psychic?) level: can be deeply understanding, genuinely sympathetic, but also emotionally (psychically) vulnerable, easily wounded, with abiding fears of rejection. Self-defense through avoidance (non-confrontation) & slamming shut senses & good sense. When wounded, withdraws & introverts (often with excessive rumination, imagination working overtime, worry, moodiness). Drawn to the imaginative, surrealistic, and creative. Genius, if present, coexists with deeply, visibly disturbed character.

Moon Square Sun (2°39')
Energetic, dynamic, terrific drive, forceful. A mental-emotional attitude biased toward success. At home with power. Intense desire in whatever they undertake. High vitality (unless the luminaries are afflicted). Sexual desires also particularly strong, passionate, though often narcissistic. Possible vanity, self-exaltation, and obstinacy.

Moon Conjunct Jupiter (2°45')
Ambitious, noble, desires success, aspires to take the lead. (Natural ‘host,’ likes to play ringmaster in all life areas including social & sexual hospitality.) Desires only the best (things & circumstances) for self & loved ones. Possible social elitism, feigned superiority, aristocratic conceit. Drawn to quality. Usually good-humored, entertaining, kind, generous. Strong beliefs (often religious or patriotic intensity, moralistic, judgmental).

Moon Sextile Pluto (2°58')
Avoids habitual conformity & conventional conditioning; willing to “march to a different drummer” with little concern for others’ rules. Maverick, outsider, gently resists authority. Restless, can uproot on little notice. Deeply inquiring mind.

SUN
Sun in Aquarius
Scientific, analytic, inventive, pragmatic, non-dogmatic. Unconventional, provocative, controversial. Broad interests. Ignores race, class, rank. Truthful, altruistic, helping. Understands people. Solitude, alienation, undemonstrative. Haughty, unapologetic, but rarely pretentious. May not understand time.

Sun Semi-square Venus
Charming, gentle, fine companion. Strong in friendship. Aesthetic appreciation. Most comfortable in marriage or similar relationship. A little vain.

MARS
Mars in Scorpio
Determined, hardworking, strong desire to succeed, hard to intimidate. Sharp humor, willing to be outlandish. Loves to party. Most prefer some “bad boy/girl” in their character, feel it their moral duty to misbehave on schedule, and stay “a little rough around the edges.” Most of the women are high-demand sexual locomotives.

Mercury Sextile Mars (0°21')
Quite a charmer with wit & edgy humor. Mind is quick, creative, strategic, opinionated. Independent thinker, enjoys argument, critical, nervous. Vulnerability to addiction.

STELLIA
In addition to the importance of the constellations holding Moon, Sun, and Mars, you also have a concentration of planets in another constellation. Four or more planets in one sign we call a stellium.

Scorpio Stellium
SCORPIO requires freedom of movement & thought, to be unfettered. Willing to rebel & be outlandish. Bold; moral courage. Slow to show weaknesses (collects others’ weaknesses). Pragmatic, not theoretical. Favors action, abhors apathy. Phallic: Sexual volcanoes.

MERCURY
Mercury in Capricorn
A quiet (playfully perverse) pride in their disagreeable opinions & autonomous thinking. Enjoys shock value of spouting unusual ideas. Mind inquisitive, enthusiastic, with a sense of the macabre. Resists being convinced. Careful, methodical, orders information effectively.

Mercury Square Saturn (0°23')
Organizes and formats information in orderly arrangements. (Often blazingly quick thinkers once the framework is established; cf. a spreadsheet.) Methodical, logical, often routinized thinking processes. Skeptical, scrutinizing (distrustful). Obstinate in the absence of new evidence. Hesitant until oriented, then decisive, e.g., learning starts slowly, then catch up quickly. Gifted with considerable mental power, but easily discouraged (doubting). Treats life seriously. Needs to learn how to play.

VENUS
Venus in Sagittarius
Idealist; committed to vision of world as they feel it should be. Values friendship (sees it as ennobling, honoring). Expects reliable friends (returns the same). Great need to be liked, accepted (nearly always is) & to bring value to a friendship. Warm, sociable, welcoming. Loves fun. Zealous & generous lovers. Needs affection openly declared: dislikes guessing.

Venus Square Uranus (1°31')
Pleasure drives are free of social convention or taboo, allowing enjoyment from a wide variety of social and sexual experiences. They approach friendship, love, sex, and other pleasure on their own terms, with a deep instinct for flexibility and freedom from artificial constraint. Socially popular, friendly, engaging, and well-liked, in response to their lightly flirtatious, genial, roguish style. (Underlying innocence and vulnerability is often masked by their social “character.”) Often requires distance from intimacy or depersonalizes affection, which can strain conventional pairings. Usually optimistic for society’s future with a deep instinct toward a less Puritanical, more open social fabric.

Venus Trine Saturn (1°59')
Work, duty, devotion are gratifying. Restrictions in love; ordinary pleasures may be deferred. Many seem comfortable unpartnered, though there is rarely sexual restraint. Childhood hardship or deprivation shape adult patterns. Sober, responsible.
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Re: Veronica

Post by Danica » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:09 am

Veronica!!!!
Welcome back :angel:
QUID VOLIS ILUD FAC

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Post by Veronica » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:26 am

Nothing makes me feel more naked then a dead on reading. It amazing how stark bare our core characteristics are when looked at through the lens of astrology. I remember for years not getting why my readings never seemed to fit, and then one day I stumbled upon Solunars and it all made sense and I felt like I really understood myself and others better. Looking at the chart of the heavens the moment you are born can be an intimating task and I am so grateful for all the work laid out in this forum as a reference for others to learn from. It also is a humbling undertaking for there really is no way to mask flaws and challenges, they are right there in the lines and orbs for all to see. Being a person who has never given a hoot about showing of my nakedness it can be a hard pill to swallow when your report says some very wild and crazy things about you, but that are entirely true in there honest reflection of what is going on inside.
This report here was painfully accurate, so much so that, like it should, I felt understood. I felt like someone else had witnessed my whole life from my point of view and was able to say accurately, "this is Veronica" because as you see below....rebel that I am, I dont like to be restricted by anything, it is seen as an affront to my spiritual liberty, all these labels and names and stereotypes that tried to get pinned to me.
I proudly wear my chart though, its been a wild ride so far to say the least.
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ANGULAR PLANETS
Angular planets are the most expressive in your horoscope. Later in this report, you will see each of them listed with their aspects (which show the way each interacts with other planets). Here follows the meaning of any angular planet(s) in your horoscope.

Angular Pluto (square Ascendant (0°34')
Social outliers needing to be authentically themselves, without labels or arbitrary standards or expectations. Eccentric, antisocial, outrageous; won’t melt into the conventional collective; singularly unique in their context, on their own path (vulnerable to persecution). Gentle, inoffensive, innocent, shy. Grapples with spiritual actualities.
Yes yes and more Yes but I will add that my natural gentle nature has a very violent and aggressive side that lives in the shadows and sometimes gets the better of me.
MOON
Moon in Scorpio

Socially active party-people:good-natured, friendly, humor. Willing to be outlandish. Factually forthright; emotionally cautious (withholding); senses others’ motives. Sexual volcanoes: built pressure needs explosive release. Sexually pragmatic. Frequent relationship drama; combative. Easy to anger (it passes). Bold, adventurous, restless, “try anything.” Gossip (sometimes vindictive). Beliefs likely unorthodox.
I admit to the horrible gossip in me and I have done some damage to past relationships because of the things that come out of my mouth in a moment of rage or fear.
Moon Conjunct Neptune (0°56')
Sensitive – often too much!
all my life, the advice I hear from everyone....your skin is too thin...
Tunes into others on an emotional (psychic?) level: can be deeply understanding, genuinely sympathetic, but also emotionally (psychically) vulnerable, easily wounded, with abiding fears of rejection.
I do have major fears of rejection and abandonment from childhood trauma, makes it very hard to have deep meaningful intimate relationships
Self-defense through avoidance (non-confrontation) & slamming shut senses & good sense. When wounded, withdraws & introverts (often with excessive rumination, imagination working overtime, worry, moodiness).
I was a teen age run away, I have a very strong sence of self reliance and choosing to not to surround myself with people who are destructive
Drawn to the imaginative, surrealistic, and creative. Genius, if present, coexists with deeply, visibly disturbed character.
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well that hurts. I have a nice smile dammit. in my defense I would just like to say, walk a mile in these stars are you might be visibly disturbed too
Moon Square Sun (2°39')
Energetic, dynamic, terrific drive, forceful. A mental-emotional attitude biased toward success. At home with power. Intense desire in whatever they undertake. High vitality (unless the luminaries are afflicted). Sexual desires also particularly strong, passionate, though often narcissistic. Possible vanity, self-exaltation, and obstinacy.
I think is one of my better traits that has helped pull me out of slumps and kept my chin up about things. I have issues with vanity and I think it comes from when I allow my ego to get attached to the million and one compliments I receive in a day, hard to not let that go to your head and stay humble.
Moon Conjunct Jupiter (2°45')
Ambitious, noble, desires success, aspires to take the lead. (Natural ‘host,’ likes to play ringmaster in all life areas including social & sexual hospitality.) Desires only the best (things & circumstances) for self & loved ones. Possible social elitism, feigned superiority, aristocratic conceit. Drawn to quality. Usually good-humored, entertaining, kind, generous. Strong beliefs (often religious or patriotic intensity, moralistic, judgmental).
I love having parties and events, it makes me happy to entertain the issue I have with this part is that it seems like this is more materialistic then I am, I am more of a wild woman and don't care for capitalistic material things
Moon Sextile Pluto (2°58')
Avoids habitual conformity & conventional conditioning; willing to “march to a different drummer” with little concern for others’ rules. Maverick, outsider, gently resists authority. Restless, can uproot on little notice. Deeply inquiring mind.
haven't been to jail yet though have gypsy blood and wish I could just walk around the world for the rest of my life
SUN
Sun in Aquarius
Scientific, analytic, inventive, pragmatic, non-dogmatic. Unconventional, provocative, controversial. Broad interests. Ignores race, class, rank. Truthful, altruistic, helping. Understands people. Solitude, alienation, undemonstrative. Haughty, unapologetic, but rarely pretentious. May not understand time.
I notice that when I am not being authentic to my true self, I become apologetic, its a nice red flag system for me to change up what I'm doing
Sun Semi-square Venus
Charming, gentle, fine companion. Strong in friendship. Aesthetic appreciation. Most comfortable in marriage or similar relationship. A little vain.
I am monogamous much to all my partners dismays. they all wanted more then what my heart could give
MARS
Mars in Scorpio
Determined, hardworking, strong desire to succeed, hard to intimidate. Sharp humor, willing to be outlandish. Loves to party. Most prefer some “bad boy/girl” in their character, feel it their moral duty to misbehave on schedule, and stay “a little rough around the edges.” Most of the women are high-demand sexual locomotives.
this one gets me in trouble, I have fought with men three times my size and I think the rules of this society suck so I am obligated to do my will
Mercury Sextile Mars (0°21')
Quite a charmer with wit & edgy humor. Mind is quick, creative, strategic, opinionated. Independent thinker, enjoys argument, critical, nervous. Vulnerability to addiction.

STELLIA
In addition to the importance of the constellations holding Moon, Sun, and Mars, you also have a concentration of planets in another constellation. Four or more planets in one sign we call a stellium.

Scorpio Stellium
SCORPIO requires freedom of movement & thought, to be unfettered. Willing to rebel & be outlandish. Bold; moral courage. Slow to show weaknesses (collects others’ weaknesses). Pragmatic, not theoretical. Favors action, abhors apathy. Phallic: Sexual volcanoes.
I do not like being restrained at all and only once did I ever submit to a man.
MERCURY
Mercury in Capricorn
A quiet (playfully perverse) pride in their disagreeable opinions & autonomous thinking. Enjoys shock value of spouting unusual ideas. Mind inquisitive, enthusiastic, with a sense of the macabre. Resists being convinced. Careful, methodical, orders information effectively.
very much so. I work with books
Mercury Square Saturn (0°23')
Organizes and formats information in orderly arrangements. (Often blazingly quick thinkers once the framework is established; cf. a spreadsheet.) Methodical, logical, often routinized thinking processes. Skeptical, scrutinizing (distrustful). Obstinate in the absence of new evidence. Hesitant until oriented, then decisive, e.g., learning starts slowly, then catch up quickly. Gifted with considerable mental power, but easily discouraged (doubting). Treats life seriously. Needs to learn how to play.
lighten up, I do need that reminder. I like things in their place and I am a bit slow on the uptake
VENUS
Venus in Sagittarius
Idealist; committed to vision of world as they feel it should be. Values friendship (sees it as ennobling, honoring). Expects reliable friends (returns the same). Great need to be liked, accepted (nearly always is) & to bring value to a friendship. Warm, sociable, welcoming. Loves fun. Zealous & generous lovers. Needs affection openly declared: dislikes guessing.
my insecurities lay here and at least knowing these feelings come from this aspect helps me ride out some of the bad feelings that arise
Venus Square Uranus (1°31')
Pleasure drives are free of social convention or taboo, allowing enjoyment from a wide variety of social and sexual experiences. They approach friendship, love, sex, and other pleasure on their own terms, with a deep instinct for flexibility and freedom from artificial constraint. Socially popular, friendly, engaging, and well-liked, in response to their lightly flirtatious, genial, roguish style. (Underlying innocence and vulnerability is often masked by their social “character.”) Often requires distance from intimacy or depersonalizes affection, which can strain conventional pairings. Usually optimistic for society’s future with a deep instinct toward a less Puritanical, more open social fabric.
this also is an important part of who I am but one that is often misunderstood by my friends and partners I think a lot of my relationship issues come from this
Venus Trine Jupiter (2°01')
Warm, friendly, giving, hospitable, popular. Desires positive attention & appreciation (usually gets it). At home in comfort. Unusual luck opens doors. Inclined to indulgence or extravagance. A little “spoiled.”
no A lot spoiled, and that is mostly in part to my nature that can see everything as a wonderful blessing and feel that the smallest token of a moment is priceless and irreplaceable. when i am in the right state of mind, the attitude of gratitude that I create inside me makes me feel like the Queen in the Heavens

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Re: Veronica

Post by Veronica » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:28 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:57 am
Welcome back! I'm really happy to see you here on the new site.

Let me give you something we've been working on. It's a partially automated system of giving the basic parts of a Sidereal natal interpretation. This isn't a full (real) interpretation, of course - just individual pieces - with all the strengths and, especially weaknesses of such a system. But you might find it fun and interesting, and be able to give feedback.

It will take me a few minutes to work it up, then I'll post it right below.
Hiya!!
Finally got a new computer!! Yea. Missed having my feet on the ground but my head in the stars!
Thanks for the warm welcome!!

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Re: Veronica

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:47 am

I'm so glad to see you back. You have been missed.

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Re: Veronica

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:06 am

Wow. That's pretty awesome, because these are just a bunch of paragraphs. The only editing of text I did was removing one sentence in the Pluto Angular paragraph that began, "If it is heavily afflicted" (because yours isn't).

I expect such mostly-automated stuff to be less even and more awkward. I'm pleased yours read so well for you.

Sorry about the "deeply disturbed" remark :twisted:
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Re: Veronica

Post by SteveS » Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:07 pm

8-) Welcome back Veronica, good to see Jim have a successful int test for you with his new interpretation file. :)

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Re: Veronica

Post by Veronica » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:48 pm

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:47 am
I'm so glad to see you back. You have been missed.
Awe thanks! I needed to hear that today! Ive missed being here with you all very much. Been in the trenches but I am done with that tour of duty and I am back in the land of the living.

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Post by Veronica » Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:58 pm

SteveS wrote:
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:07 pm
8-) Welcome back Veronica, good to see Jim have a successful int test for you with his new interpretation file. :)
Thanks Steve! Nice to see you.
I am so impressed with that report, what a great tool and from what Ive seen......dead on accurate.
What I am really impressed with is how the report reads so that while each aspect is listed as seperate, when you are done reading the whole file you have an excellent formulation of how those individual aspects unite to form the whole being. I dont know if it is the word choice or placement but looking at charts with these key terms in mind has made my study flow easier, very natural. Good stuff!

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Re: Veronica

Post by SteveS » Tue Mar 27, 2018 3:15 pm

Yes, a very good 'tool' for all Sidereal Astrology students and easy for Jim to construct with Solar Fire now that he has customized the interpretation file in Solar Fire with experience from his life's work with Sidereal Astrology. I am hoping all students of Sidereal Astrology with Solar Fire implements Jim's customized interpretation for Natal Sidereal Astrology, and disperse as many Sidereal Natal readings as possible. :)

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Re: Veronica

Post by FlorencedeZ. » Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:46 pm

Jim, regarding Veronica’s chart I get Venus trine Saturn and Venus trine Uranus. (stronger) Not Venus trine Jupiter.
Is there something I overlooked? The customized SF reports the same.

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Re: Veronica

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:07 pm

I had Venus square (not trine) Uranus, which is correct. But you're right, my eye landed on Jupiter when it should have been Saturn: I've replaced that short paragraph above. Thanks.
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Post by Veronica » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:05 am

I sit here and look at my chart and just wonder what the hell is going on, like Ive done most of my life. This time though I really think I am at an all time low. I feel so drained of life and the will to live. If I didn’t have my kids and my animals I would just leave this town and go some place where no one knows me. I look at my chart and I see this character in a play, having to wearing a mask in life because this world just seems so hostile and dangerous to a person like me.
I feel like I have a soul sickness, something deep inside of me that is off set or broken. I don’t know if I am heart sick or infested with spiritual parasites. I don’t feel love any more, and I don’t feel like being loving to people. I feel like I am a horrible person who has just made a mess of her life and doesn’t deserve to be around people.
My Will, my spark that powerhouse of Mars I got going on, is pretty much gone.
For such a long part of my life I tried to do everything with Love in mind. Every little thing I did I tried to raise my vibrational pattern and do it with loving intention. I have no intention any more, and If I try to raise my vibrations I just get over whelmed and cry.
The men that I choose to be involved with in my love life were all bad boys with their own psychological issues, and head games. Playing with these men is like playing CalvinBAll where the rules change every moment. I tried with each of them to bring out the good, to be a role model, to show I cared, but they all just wanted to drink and party and have kinky sex and not give up the childish lifestyle, to not put it in balance with the rest of their life.
Im so lonely and sad and I just cant seem to shake this.
Im in love with a man who made me happier then I ever been, but his lifestyle choice makes it unbearable for me to be around his friends and associates, which is his whole life. For the past four years I have tried to maintain a relationship, but this past fall the insanity came to a head, and it ended up with people coming to my home and assaulting me. (he said/she said…..I am accused of cheating by my boyfriend with his friends.
I wish I did cheat on him. I wish I could say I was mean and horrible to him and made his life hell…..but I did just the opposite. I was perfect. I wish I did do something to say well that’s why it didn’t work. But the fact that he is saying I was the one cheating, when I wasn’t is such an affront to my truthful nature….I am soul shocked. I love this man so much that I cant even think about having someone else touch me.
After the assault I think I had a nervous break down. The last four months have really been just a blurr. Crying, not eating, sleeping crazy. Getting up at 3am to watch to make sure no one is stalking me…..barely working and taking care of kids. I was starting to feel a better but last week I went to my loves house and it was a bad scene. I left and haven’t heard from him. I am besides myself with questions and I don’t want this relationship to be over, but I have no say in it. I have so many other things I should be doing but my lack of answers has left me drained and unfocused.
I have never not had a man in my life. And these past 5 months of being alone have been the most painful time in my life. I feel that all I have ever been told by a man (except you Mr. Elshelman) has been hogwash just to try to get in my pants. I worked on making amends to people that I thought had reason to not like me, and that was a hard thing to do but it hasn’t gotten rid of this stone in my stomach feeling that hurts so bad some days.
I know that I am not myself, I can feel her in there but cant bring her out.

I instinctively know that this will pass, but I really would like any advice or insight to help reassure me.

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Re: Veronica

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Re: Veronica

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:39 am

I'm sorry to hear this has been so rough, though I'm happy you took the occasion to reconnect with us here.

What I find interesting astrologically is that you have NO major transits at the moment. None at all. That is statistically unusual all by itself.

But you do have - exact almost to the day - a Moon-Neptune progressed square. This makes you acutely sensitive, feeling things very powerfully, and leaves room for demons to creep out of our personal basements. It leaves us feeling deeply vulnerable. Just knowing about this will likely give you a measure of relief; and it will pass in, say, another month.
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Re: Veronica

Post by Veronica » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:15 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:39 am
I'm sorry to hear this has been so rough, though I'm happy you took the occasion to reconnect with us here.

What I find interesting astrologically is that you have NO major transits at the moment. None at all. That is statistically unusual all by itself.

But you do have - exact almost to the day - a Moon-Neptune progressed square. This makes you acutely sensitive, feeling things very powerfully, and leaves room for demons to creep out of our personal basements. It leaves us feeling deeply vulnerable. Just knowing about this will likely give you a measure of relief; and it will pass in, say, another month.
Thanks. it feels good to be here even under these crazy situations.

Statistically unusual but yet here I sit. I do feel a bit better in my head to day. This over sensitiveness is very hard to get under control. I am sure that hormones must be behind part of all of this becasue I am perimenapausal. That and the fact that I have the stress of my home being sold at auction, under employed, recently disabled, and my ailing father I am sure plays a part in all of these thoghts and feeleings being stirred up. It is very hard to get my mind off of things, becasue I really dont have much to do with my time.

I also think that I have alot of Kamric issues that are being resolved now and leaving me free in a sence to finally just be me and not worry about being burned at the stake.

when those women came here and attacked me, it wasnt becasue of a man, they hated me because they thought I was a witch. They were screaming at me hateful words about who I was a human being. It was the ugliest thing I had ever seen. they were so ugly, like hideous hatefilled monsters attaking me for being pretty and smart and not into thier Abrahamic Dogma. After many minutes of hearing all this garbage about the blood of christ and Im the devils whore, the one woman grabbed my arm to scream at me, and I just punched her square in the face and busted her wide open. That when the fat one grabbed me. So, its not about Craig not stopping these crazies, its about how I reacted to the percieved threat of who I was a human being.

Im ashamed I hit her, that I couldnt just eat her words turn the other cheek and just walk away. I had previously (6 moths or so) given this lady my address becasue she wanted to talk about what "the boys were up to." She never showed up then. Months later when she did show up, she went to the wrong house, caught my neighbors shagging, and was removed from the property by the police at 2 am. thats when in the morning I awoke to craig saying that this woman had come to his house looking for her cheating husband and wanted craig to come with her to find him.
she assumed that she was at the right house and went and told craig she causght me with another man. But she only was a peeking tom to my neighbors. Its all just crazy. So when she came back the second time at 6am I was not in the mood to be nice and listen to her, when she cant act like a grown up and talk things through.

It took me along to get over attacking this woman. Im still working it through. I just snapped and saw red, and lost control. Im afraid being around Craig of not so much what he would do to me, but what I could do to him. Becasue what I felt was not nice, and I dont ever want to be in positions where I loose control like that again.

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Re: Veronica

Post by SteveS » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:15 am

Veronica, would you please confirm correct time for your natal chart? Thanks, Steve :)
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Re: Veronica

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Mar 30, 2018 12:04 pm

Oh, you may have caught something there, Steve. She did say 11:41 AM above, and the one I have on hand (and have been using) is 12:41 PM.
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Post by SteveS » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:18 pm

Jim, in my old chart files when Veronica was a member of solunars.net I also have 12:41 PM. :?:

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Re: Veronica

Post by Veronica » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:40 pm

SteveS wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:18 pm
Jim, in my old chart files when Veronica was a member of solunars.net I also have 12:41 PM. :?:
just checkeed my actual bc and I was wrong. I was born 12:41pm
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Post by SteveS » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:03 pm

Thanks Veronica, then ignore the SSR I posted for you. I will go back and delete all charts for a 11:41 AM time.

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:05 pm

Veronica wrote:
Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:40 pm
just checkeed my actual bc and I was wrong. I was born 12:41pm
Whew. Cool. I don't have to talk you into ignoring the Pluto square Ascendant that you said fit you so well :)
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Post by Veronica » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:34 pm

On August 19 2016,
at roughly 8am
in Henrietta NY

I was at work struggling to clean the rec room of the library when my vacuum broke. I was given a large commercial machine which almost out weighed me to finish the task. The machine caught on the rug and jarred my body my causing damage to my neck and shoulders. The pain was worse then childbirth and went on for weeks and weeks. I was advised to get injection in my neck which scared me so I used therapy and injections on my left shoulder which made my left side bearable. This past fall, my right side has started to bother me again. Specifically on October 17, 2017 at roughly 7am in Scottsville NY.

On the date of my run in with the cleaner I see that Mars and Saturn are within a few degrees of each other in Scorpio, where I have my Mars, Jupiter and Moon. That for sure looks like trouble to me.

I also see Jupiter and Mercury within a few degree of each other on the cusp of leo/virgo where my pluto resides.
that instinctively seems like a good thing, in my gut I'm hoping it is. Venus is only degrees away which definitely feels good. I also see Pluto transiting almost exactly my Venus, which also makes me feel very good.

With all the trouble and risks I have been through in my life, this silly run in with a cleaner has humbled me to understand what it feels like to live in chronic pain. I had no idea how depressing and deliberating pain really is, and I regret that I didn't use my body more and better when I had the chance.

My Lawyer called with an offer, and I just groaned and said well I still have medical appointments to see before I even consider settling an issue with my spine and neck which could come back to haunt me in ten years in I cash out and deal with on my own like the insurance people are pressing.

I will look up my findings and share any other findings.

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