Jupiter and dogma

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Jupiter and dogma

Post by Soft Alpaca » Fri May 08, 2020 10:53 am

I was just looking through one of the articles and I saw Jupiter was all encompassed by one word "compliance". Thinking through it I wasn't exactly certain that this is the correct verbage. While I've seen many great words that could describe the planet one came to mind very clearly to me "dogma".

Im not sure what everyone else feels about this but I find it very true in most jovial heavy people I meet (my own dogma is that reality is always shifting and not a single thing is stable and unchanging {this is probably due to my heavy Uranus undercurrents}.

Curious if anyone has examples of dogmas that Jupiter heavy people have that they know personally? I also think that doctrine is a fairly good word as it implies less force but often times even when the Jupiter folk aren't being actively forceful it seems to impeded anyways.

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Re: Jupiter and dogma

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri May 08, 2020 12:23 pm

Sure, dogma / doctrine etc. are perfectly good Jupiter words. I don't think of them as primary words because, first, it biases the planet unnecessarily to the intellectual, and, secondly, it comes primarily from something very close to... compliance.

Jupiter is fundamentally a social planet. Even when it seems more solitary, it's in cases where the ambition side is more pronounced and Jupiter (for example) is self-presenting as or aspiring to be better than others. (This also can be affected by Jupiter's aspects.) But even this feature is an expression of the social characteristics of Jupiter, i.e., it being important to Jupiter that other people have positive, admiring, respecting, esteeming, advantageous feelings about the Jupiter person.

Jupiter is the function by which we build a culture, a society, a community. It doesn't refer to one-on-one relationships the way Venus does but, rather, relationship to community (whatever that means in the moment). One might say that Venus relationships are between while Jupiter relationships are among. Jupiter, therefore, is biased to the establishing of and supporting of institutions, mores, cultural agreement, etc., and therefore can seem dogmatic or doctrinal because everything from a religion to a workplace lunchroom policy rests heavily on everyone consenting to think certain things in common and act certain ways in common.

As we return to workplaces in the next few weeks, during a Jupiter-Pluto conjunction, we will be rewriting a lot of these community rules, e.g., not shaking hands as a social greeting. This will be a modification of Jupiter consent, agreement, and compliance.
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Re: Jupiter and dogma

Post by Soft Alpaca » Fri May 08, 2020 3:09 pm

I understand now that you have further defined what you meant exactly be compliance. {Which I can do but I'd rather just make it seem like a facade and having Pluto and Uranus as well as Capricorn I think that if It makes sense that I perhaps wouldn't feel a significant relation to the word}.

I am glad though for example that I did comply to the bounds of your work and and this forum {as no tropical astrologer as far as I'm concerned would take the time {no offense let alone have the capability} to even notice a theme in my personality/chart and then ask questions and seek the answers without a fee).

I hope that my antics helped this site as well (as this is a community) especially surrounding the energy of the vertex (now that it is revealed I take the time to be more careful and k have noticed that I use Uranus for baisclly all my interactions with people and society as a whole and put Pluto and Jupiter on a back burner {still there and hot but not the biggest flame}.

Also Jim I use the resources here to read other peoples charts especially in the age of us weird maliable college students and the charts are often so spot on people will tell there friends the often 3 Sidereal signs and take the time to say that they feel that not only do they find it more fitting but they like the way I do astrology (mind you I do give myth and art references as a picture to most is a thousand words).

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Re: Jupiter and dogma

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri May 08, 2020 4:23 pm

Soft Alpaca wrote:
Fri May 08, 2020 3:09 pm
I understand now that you have further defineAlso Jim I use the resources here to read other peoples charts especially in the age of us weird maliable college students and the charts are often so spot on people will tell there friends the often 3 Sidereal signs and take the time to say that they feel that not only do they find it more fitting but they like the way I do astrology (mind you I do give myth and art references as a picture to most is a thousand words).
Thanks for evangelizing Sidereal astrology so beautifully and effectively :)
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