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SUN foreground (Seeding, Dignity, Centricity)

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SUMMARY: Warm, friendly, welcoming, sharing light, planting seeds. Vital, bold, confident. Dignity, gives and expects respect, needs to shine. Impelled toward a distinctive purpose (role) to discover and fulfill. Urge to command (good leader; or bossy, entitled, controlling). Needs centricity (attracts satellites), flourishes as center of someone's attention. Drawn to traditional institutions with heritage. Need for personal continuity, something that survives them.

SUN FOREGROUND ("The Hero")
  1. Warmth: Warm, friendly, welcoming, loyal.
  2. Light: Wants to contribute to others (make an impact, share their light). - Long-term impact on others is more likely from planting seeds than "taking talent under wing."
  3. Strong vitality, good overall health, intelligence.
  4. Confident, bold (assertive), robust in argument. Willing to step forward, speak up, act (moral courage). - At least acts confident (actual confidence depends on maturity).
  5. Has a gift for moving things forward simply by taking the next step (seeing and doing the next thing needed). Even if not feeling decisive, can more easily act decisively (do something) than wrestle and wrangle with strategies and plans.
  6. CORE THEME: Impelled toward a distinctive role in life - a direction, target, destiny, or purpose - that they must discover and fulfill. - Early life is commonly a seeker phase to discover this, "wandering around looking for a clue" that is undecided more than indecisive (cf. Hero archetype myths).
  7. Presents with dignity, refuses to be dominated or intimidated, gives and expects respect. - Vulnerable to wounded pride from disrespect or not being seen for oneself.
  8. Requires opportunity for self-expression, a chance to shine. (Not competitive per se: others are not part of this equation).
  9. At their best: Leaders, born commanders, in charge of themselves, do remarkably well in charge of others. At their worst: Bossy, controlling, with a sense of entitlement (often unstated). In either case, responds easily and respectfully to command structures while nurturing an urge to rule.
  10. Among the eminent, Sun angular overflows with power, command, confidence, and distinction. [Sun is the most frequently angular planet for the first 45 men to serve as U.S. President, including James Madison, James K. Polk, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, Chester A. Arthur, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Lyndon B. Johnson, Gerald R. Ford, Ronald Reagan, Barack Obama, and Joseph Biden.]
  11. Centricity: Naturally attracts a circle of "satellites" surrounding them (usually without seeking it or necessarily wanting it).
  12. In romance, flourishes when love is centered squarely on them and they are "seen" by their partners: Uses intimate relationship as one more tool to clarify who they are.
  13. Attracted to traditional institutions that convey heritage and incite pride.
  14. A need for immortality or effective personal continuity infuses solar motivations and characteristics. This commonly expresses as a strong need that their impact or contribution survives them, that they have "left something of them behind." Among public figures, continuity often includes elements of successorship or inheritance (not necessarily familial).
  15. Few have children.
  16. Solar murderers: Though Sun is not inherently homicidal, several high-profile murderers were born with angular Sun. This group includes female murderers Susan Atkins, Winnie Ruth Judd, and Valerie Solanas, in addition to Bruno Hauptman, Fritz Haarmann (the "Butcher of Hanover"), Robert Strack (the "Beast of Cologne"), Mark David Chapman, and Erik and Lyle Menendez. Most of these were psychotic. Deeper exploration of these abnormal examples may disclose valuable information about healthy expressions of Sun. [In the Bradley study of murderers, Sun was not necessarily common in the foreground but was statistically uncommon in the background.]
STATS: Sun not necessarily foreground for murderers, but avoids remote background.

Notebook #93 observations: Generally indicates narcissism; but mostly they are a strong, positive bunch. Egoic energies appear to be much more dominant and obvious with Sun on MC/Asc than IC/Dsc.
Fagan & Firebrace wrote:[If born with Sun angular] ...he will tend to forge a path for himself in life as he itches to rule and command others. If... he is born when the Sun is remote from the angles, these qualities will not be obvious and may even be absent.

If the natal Sun is foreground and the Moon in the background the native will be a self-made man, determined and possibly ruthless. This is especially noticeable when the Sun is [in a Hub constellation] when he may heed no counsel other than his own.
U.S. PRESIDENTS:
ASC: Martin Van Buren, John Tyler, Abraham Lincoln, Chester A. Arthur
MC: James Polk
IC: James Madison, Gerald Ford
DSC: Dwight Eisenhower, Barack Obama
OTHER: U.S. Grant, Ronald Reagan
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MOON foreground (Appetite, Sensitivity, Response)

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SUMMARY: Needs constant stimulation (of mind or senses). Responsive, adaptive, malleable to social, psychological, and environmental conditions (impressionable). Strong sexual appetites; responsive to affection, friendship, sexual suggestion. Amiable, accommodating, good-hearted; sensitive, receptive, empathic, tender (touchy, moody, reactive). Vulnerable to judgments, displeasure, criticism. Natural before an audience (connected). Imaginative.

MOON FOREGROUND ("The Muse")
  1. Lives in constant need of stimulation, of something new to absorb and assimilate. This may be as much of the mind as the senses, so they appear active, intensely curious, inquiring. [Appetite is the common theme for most foreground Moon traits: The "nurture" theme is primarily in terms of literal or metaphorical feeding. For example, the intense curiosity often reflected on lunar faces looks less like Mercury's sense of purely intellectual inquiry and more like they want to be fed.]
  2. Responsive, adaptive, malleable (easily influenced, impressionable). [Gauquelin: easily influenced]
  3. Adapts (chameleon-like) to shifting social, psychological, and environmental conditions (easily, not always happily).
  4. Unconsciously dons a mask, takes up accents, stylization, and mannerisms, or otherwise adjusts behavior (giving advantage in sales, service, performance, politics, other public facing).
  5. Strong sexual appetites. Highly responsive to sexual suggestion. [OBSERVATION: Most "sex kitten" celebrities have Moon near an angle.]
  6. Affection and friendliness light them up like a light switch. [Gauquelin many friends]
  7. Amiable, accommodating, obliging, tolerant, good-hearted, generous spirit, compliant. [Gauquelin amiable, accommodating, obliging, tolerant, good company, good-hearted, generous, nonchalant]
  8. Sensitive, receptive. (Most are empathic, responsive to others' emotions. Some show heightened psychic sensitivity or are active telepathy.)
  9. Tender, vulnerable (touchy, moody). Prone to self-doubt and pessimism. Others’ feelings can overwhelm them, especially judgments, displeasures, or criticism.
  10. If overwhelmed or disconnected from empathy or feelings, becomes reactive (infantile). [Gauquelin: disorderly]
  11. Most men (and some women) shield themselves as early as infancy and appear guarded, intellectual, disconnected.
  12. Even if shy or private, is a natural before an audience (connected). - Empathically tied into mass mind. (This often gives easy rapport with the public, e.g., celebrities, politicians).
  13. Imaginative, strong powers of imagery. [Gauquelin poetic, dreaming, imaginative]
  14. Talent for taking others' foundations and improving them; thus, they make the best editors, arrangers, adapters, developers, promoters, caretakers, assistants. [Statistically common for Gauquelin collections of writers and politicians.] In contrast (due to favoring rapport), does poorly in more competitive fields. [Statistically uncommon for Gauquelin collection of soldiers and sports champions and, in general, produces an opposite character and profession profile to Mars. This also gives (by social standards) a vaguely feminine feel to lunar men.]
GAUQUELIN CHARACTER TRAITS FOR FOREGROUND MOON:
Amiable, many friends, simple, good company, good-hearted, accommodating, disorderly, absent-minded, generous, imaginative, easily influenced, fashionable, worldly, nonchalant, poetic, dreaming, obliging, rather snobbish, superficial, tolerant. [Regarding the character traits fashionable, worldly, rather snobbish, superficial: While conceivable as a "putting on airs" variation of the "putting on an act," I don't find these descriptive of angular Moon people I personally know.]

GAUQUELIN PROFESSIONAL RESULTS:
HIGH: Politicians, writers
LOW: Soldiers, sports champions
Fagan & Firebrace wrote:Should the Moon be angular especially in one of the weak [Spoke] constellations... and the Sun cadent, the native will be weak, having little stamina and swayed by the opinions of others.
Notebook #93 observations: (Moon on Midheaven) Very strong on service.

More elaborate discussion from another post:
Jim Eshelman wrote:I have an angular Moon and have known a lot of angular Moon men (and several Cancer Sun men) who have a pattern I well recognize in myself... Foreground Moon children are hyper-sensitive. It takes longer for their nervous systems to "click" that they are not literally the same as their mother. (I don't mean years, I mean extra months.) Most importantly, they respond to every impression, psychological nuance, emotional shift and tone minutely. It is this ability to be so minutely attentive to and responsive to other people's feelings, moods, psychic states, subtle impressions, etc., that has them singled out as gifted early in life - nearly every child, whose chart I have, that was in the early years of the Gifted Children's Society (that started in Southern California and spread to big cities around the country - parents with children who were miles ahead of their school grade and bored to tears, that were provided other options by the program) - nearly every one of these was an angular Moon child.

Two or three decades later, psychologists started writing that the old "gifted" category was not so much intellectual brilliance (though most of them had that, too) as this hyper-sensitivity to people, moods, and environments.

In fact, the majority of men with angular Moons, and a majority of Cancer men, come across as hyper-intellectual... You keep wanting to find the intellect in the chart. It might be there but, primarily, the "intellect" is in their absorption, rapid adaptation, feeling and perceiving everything acutely AND THEN defending against it - an intellectual front, an insensitive wall, to ward away ALL THAT STUFF THAT'S BOMBARDING THE NERVOUS SYSTEM... The most important thing to know, first, about this boy is that he is picking up on and responding to everything... [Mother's] moods, her shifting impressions, her opportunistic frustrations of the moment are going to be felt by the child as condemnation (not that something else needs her attention at that point). "Condemnation" is not too strong a word for at least some of these inadvertent shifts of attention. Therefore, what's REALLY important from Mom is authenticity. None of this, "I'm trying to be a good mother and, yes, I have other things on my mind and, yes, I need to put on a strong smile and pretend that in this very moment when I should be doing three other things, I'm here only for this crying child." No, authenticity is crucial, otherwise the child will be trained to not trust the impressions or not trust people. One needs to remind kind AND know that the child's whole nervous system will pick up on any well-meaning {bs} (without knowing it's well-meaning: that's a value judgment, and the ability for those hasn't grown yet).

U.S. PRESIDENTS:
ASC:
MC:
IC: U.S. Grant, William McKinley, Herbert Hoover
DSC: James Polk, James Buchanan
OTHER: Benjamin Harrison
[Many had the disadvantage of coming into office in extremely difficult times. The problem is, almost none of them rose to the occasion. Grant, a magnificent general, had the task of reconstruction in his lap and failed miserably amidst weakness and graft. Buchanan probably had no realistic chance of preventing Civil War, and he fell rapidly to the low expectations of his term. Hoover inherited the conditions rapidly spiralling into the Great Depression and, despite doing many of the things that later marked his successor's New Deal, he basically never stood a chance of recovery. The others... well, draw your own conclusion.]
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MERCURY foreground (Alert, Curious, Realistic)

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SUMMARY. Alert, attentive, curious, observant, strategic, analytic. Mentally sharp, hard to fool (knows more about you than you think). Youthful animation, keenness. Easily bored without mental stimulation. Knack for handling business (entrepreneurial). Good at detailed work. Nervous (anxiety? worry? touchy?). Little emotional affect, hard to read. Curiosity drives sexual choices.

MERCURY FOREGROUND
  1. Alert, attentive, curious, observant, strategic, analytic. Mentally sharp (obsessive with details). Some are quick thinkers, never missing a thing; others are patiently, quietly studious. Both groups are hard to fool and know more about you than you think they do.
  2. Eyes reflect keen, alert, sharp, clever faculties even into advanced age. (You can tell they are watching, paying attention, "taking things in." Physical animation and quick energy give impression of youth.)
  3. Prone to easy boredom without regular mental stimulation. (Most are careful to arrange their lives so that there is rarely a shortage of stimulation.)
  4. Courage of convictions. Speaks truth unhesitantly, even defiantly (as if advocating for the truth of the facts).
  5. Business knack, entrepreneurial, oriented toward commerce; realistic, natural at "doing business," drives it by moving information and forging communication. (Whatever their particular field, they probably are good at handling the business aspect of it.)
  6. Nervous types, anxious, or worriers (allergies), sometimes with substance abuse problems (alcohol or drug abuse, smoking). [STATS: Foreground Mercury is typical in the profile for alcoholics (Bradley)] Nonetheless, many (perhaps half) are more physically calm. (For most who are not, it is a drug issue.)
  7. Little emotional affect. Informational communication comes more easily than emotional communication. Gives few clues about what is really going on with them, how they feel: Hard to read whether they are kidding, offended, or unaffected.
  8. Surprisingly easy to offend by getting a fact wrong about them. (It is an intellectual affront: They are not necessarily emotionally sensitive to it but take it seriously.) Rather than react to it emotionally, most just vanish.
  9. Sense of humor is playful, geeky, clever. (Often not their most noticed feature - they can seem so business-like - yet usually present on inspection.)
  10. Talented at precise, detailed work. Manually skilled, mechanical aptitude.
  11. Curiosity drives their sexual choices as much as any other single factor; also, very skilled hands.
OBSERVATION: Most of those I know are surprisingly easy to offend, especially by someone getting a fact wrong about them: Not necessarily emotionally sensitive to the remark (though a few are just plain touchy); rather than react, most just vanish. Hard to read about whether they are kidding, offended, or unaffected (little emotional affect gives only limited data on their real reaction).

OBSERVATION: Several of the most successful professional pop musicians (and other entertainers) have Mercury foreground. Given their commercial success, I'm inclined to think it shows keen business acumen. The group includes Madonna, Michael Jackson, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison, comedians like Johnny Carson and Robin Williams, directors who know the business as well as Clint Eastwood, Woody Allen, and Robert Altman, as well as straight commercial figures like Rupert Murdoch, Ted Turner, Lee Iacocca, and Bill Gates (examples that also mark communications media, transportation, and computer industries).
Fagan & Firebrace wrote:Mercury in the foreground of any map awakens and activates the mental processes of the native. Under this influence he imparts to others what he knows. According to his station in life he may, for example, preach sermons, give lectures, instruct others, or write, debate, criticize, discuss, or publish.
STATS: Foreground Mercury is part of one form of the profile for alcoholics (Bradley).

GARTH ALLEN on the MERCURY PERSONALITY (Kid Gloves)
“The most conspicuous trait of the individual whose natal Mercury is dominant is the youthful intentness of his mannerisms and overall appearance. He just doesn’t look at home in a rocking chair unless he is using it as an observation perch. His head shifts position from time to time, often with a jerk, in order not to miss a trick in the world around him. His eyes and face have a self-conscious motility reminiscent of bird behavior. Even in advanced age this aura of youngishness can be striking – the quick physical movement, the ballbearing sweep of the line of vision, the promptness of every response. At school, he seemed somewhat younger than the average of his classmates. His follicles have perseverance and he is apt to sport a head of hair when the pates of most of his friends have long since resembled billiard balls.

“The speed of his physical reactions has a mental counterpart so that he tends to make up his mind on the spur of the moment and expresses himself as though he never feels the need to ponder a decision. Mercurians like to keep busy just for the sake of doing something as they are creatures to whom boredom can mean psychological disaster. They impress others as either temperamentally unstable or too susceptible to distraction to be reliable and this impression has cost many Mercurians a deserved promotion, or, for that matter, a job for which they are eminently suited. There is nary a baritone in the purebred Mercurian population for this planet’s vocal range is a few keys higher than the norm. The Mercurian has an opinion about everything under the Sun and is quick to react with an unpremeditated often unpredictable attitude – “That’s nice!” or “How terrible!” or “Naturally!” He’s a born skeptic and when interested in religion is likely to approach his own creed with a “Methodist” viewpoint, i.e., the Kingdom of Heaven should be founded here in this world rather than looked for in the sky. He has a natural resistance against being fooled, thanks to his skeptical streak, and often possesses a business instinct.

“The whole personality of the typical Mercurian – physique and psyche considered together – appears oriented to his nervous system. It is difficult to find a true Geminian or Virgoan who does not have at least one physical allergy. There appear to be more alcoholics born under Gemini than under any other constellation; alcoholism itself is medically definable as a chemical sensitivity or, in plain words, an allergy. Similarly there are more health-food faddists and vegetarians born in Virgo than under any other constellation. The likes and dislikes of the Mercurian are clear-cut and exacting, especially where the telltale neurotic foods arc concerned (eggs, onions, squash, milk, etc.).

“The overresponse of all their physical functions reflects this emphasis on their neural organization, for they are usually hypersensitive to pain, easily raise welts quickly when bruised or bitten by mosquitos, suffer cold and closeness earlier than others, and have poor resistance against skin ailments. The proclivity to nervousness, in the ordinary usage of the word, is the reason why Mercurians tend to be smokers and drinkers, more easily develop psychosomatic symptoms, and get unduly excited over what others consider trivialities. Mercurians are likable people; it’s difficult to stay mad at anybody who can whistle and it’s impossible to dislike someone who at fifty enjoys flying a kite with the neighborhood kids or who would, if he could, pay his way into the movies with the pop bottle deposits, just for the heck of it!”


U.S. PRESIDENTS:
ASC: Millard Fillmore, Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush
MC: George Washington, William Henry Harrison, George H.W. Bush
IC: Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover
OTHER: James Monroe, Gerald Ford
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VENUS foreground (Pleasure, Justice, Beauty)

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SUMMARY: Charming, attractive, popular, friendly, gracious. Feels and responds powerfully, forthrightly; invested in experiencing, absorbing impressions. Flirtatious, affectionate (sexually more receptive than aggressive). Loving, caretaking, mothering. Kind, considerate, averse to cruelty and harm. Stands against injustice. Acts to reduce their stress and friction. Needs beauty, enjoys "the good life." Drawn to pleasure, peace, tranquility (not pain, violence, turbulence).

VENUS FOREGROUND
  1. Charming, attractive, popular. Friendly, cheery, pleasing, often funny. Gracious, considerate. (Even the men have a gracious gentleness, often a softness.) [Gauquelin charming, loved, amiable, gracious, looks good, comical, not quarrelsome; to please, good manners, considerate]
  2. Flirtatious, affectionate. Sexually more receptive (loves to be "taken") than aggressive (unless Mars hosts a luminary or is equally strong). [Gauquelin not aggressive]
  3. Feels and responds to things powerfully, forthrightly. Invested in experiencing life, absorbing impressions.
  4. Loving, caretaking. Often "mothering" (devoted) toward friends. [OBSERVATION: Many school teachers.]
  5. Kind, benevolent. Stands against cruelty, harm, and inflicting pain. [STATS: Rare in horoscopes of murderers.] [Gauquelin kind, benevolent]
  6. A perception of justice (personal or social) is basic to their sense of rightness in the world. Can be stubborn and fierce against perceived injustice, someone's unfair treatment, etc.
  7. Gravitates toward the beautiful, not the coarse; pleasure, not pain; and peace and tranquility, not violence and turbulence, their sense of justice permitting. (Absence a perception of injustice, not known as angry or bad-tempered.) [Gauquelin not choleric]
  8. Needs settings and conditions that reduce stress and friction for them (but may be willing to increase others' stress levels to get this).
  9. Prioritizes pleasurable stimulation of their senses and exposure to beauty. (Treats self to pleasure, likes travel, enjoys a life of comfort and elegance, "the good things in life," or deep exposure to nature). [Gauquelin likes travel, elegant]
STATS: Scarce for murderers (Bradley). Large representation of teachers (Eshelman notebooks).

GAUQUELIN CHARACTER TRAITS: Charming, amiable, loved, gracious, kind, benevolent, comical, elegant, looks young, poet, successful, likes travel. Lesser level of significance: To please, good manners, considerate. Significantly low: Aggressive, choleric, excessive, lively, quarrelsome.
Fagan & Firebrace wrote:When in elevation or in the foreground at birth, the native is dominated by his love for others - nothing else matters. It is the motive of his existence. Known as the "venerable" Venus in advanced years, the native may, if in a position to do so, become noted for his philanthropy and charity. In his youth there is something of the Casanova. When in propinquity to one of the inactive places, love is apt to occupy a subordinate place in his life. So placed, marriage is apt to be delayed or altogether denied.

U.S. PRESIDENTS:
ASC: James Garfield, Bill Clinton
MC: William Henry Harrison, James Polk, Grover Cleveland
IC:
DSC: Theodore Roosevelt
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MARS foreground (Courage, Independence, Aggression)

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SUMMARY: Independent, determined, persevering, self-willed. Aggressive, challenging, needs to win (combative, quarrelsome). On the go, needs to burn energy, impulsive (strong and untiring when young). Courage (physical, moral: forthright, outspoken, argumentative). Dominates, commands. Business leadership, competitive excellence. Strong sexual drives need frequent satisfaction.

MARS FOREGROUND
  1. Independent, determined, persevering, self-willed. Want to have their own way (make their own decisions, run their own show). [Gauquelin self-willed]
  2. Aggressive, competitive, challenging, needs to win (combative, quarrelsome, takes risks). Seeks to prove self in battle (literal or figurative: war, athletics, games, verbally, mentally, in business, sexually - any way they can test themselves, demonstrate and hone skill and power, measure and improve their ranking, etc.). [STATS: Sports champions (Gauquelin).] [Gauquelin traits reckless, daring, fighting]
  3. Fiery, full of vitality, "on the go." Needs to burn energy (physically or mentally). Strong and untiring when young. [Gauquelin traits fiery, untiring, strong, full of vitality, dynamic, energetic]
  4. Impulsive, acts without calculation.
  5. Seeks dominance, command, and control. (Some, averse to the idea of dominating, express this as a need to lead effectively). - In business, shows leadership and competitive excellence. [STATS: Business executives (Gauquelin).] [Many angular Mars entertainers are known as much for business or executive excellence as for their other talents: Orson Welles, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Barbra Streisand, Charles Chaplin, Merv Griffin, Lady Gaga. Add noted executives such as Henry Ford, Rupert Murdoch, 12 U.S. Presidents (five of whom were generals).]
  6. Courage, including the moral courage to defend own beliefs (forthright, outspoken, argumentative). [Gauquelin traits courageous, valiant, straightforward]
  7. Sexually aggressive. Strong sex drive needs frequent satisfaction. (Prefers enthusiasm or ferocity. Also, many striking examples exist of people known to "like it rough.")
  8. Common for soldiers, athletes, executives, doctors [Gauquelin professional studies.]. Other observed areas of success include physical trainers, realtors, high-pressure sales (and other competitive and blood pressure straining fields), sex professionals, law enforcement, and anything relying on muscles and strength. Few teachers (perhaps due to limited patience and empathy).
  9. STATS: Contributes to the profile for alcoholics and other addiction (Bradley). Common for murderers (Bradley). (The major homicide examples I have often have a mental disorders, often psychotic, often due to extreme substance abuse.)
GAUQUELIN CHARACTER TRAITS: Active, eager, quarrelsome, reckless, combative, courageous, dynamic, energetic, fiery, untiring, aggressive, afraid of nothing, straightforward, strong, daring, valiant, full of vitality, lively, self-willed.

GAUQUELIN PROFESSIONAL DATA:
HIGH: Soldiers, sports champions, business executives, doctors
LOW: Artists, writers
Garth Allen AA 6/75 wrote:The rising-Mars type tends to be unusually active and physically assertive. Psychologically he feels the inner need to compete, rather than merge forces, with others. Where unable to compete, he belittles in order to cut opponents and envied associates down to size. He is forever taking cuts at the world, though does not normally recognize hostility for what it is.
Fagan & Firebrace wrote:Unpolished diamonds, rough, uncouth, loudmouthed, clamorous, noisy, wiry, muscular, untidy, prone to swearing and cursing, hot-headed, impetuous, brave, daring, reckless, spoiling for a fight, delighting in sport, machinery and mechanics, easily succumbing to temptation, exulting in conflict. These are some of the familiar characteristics of those born with Mars in the foreground. Fundamentally Mars is a "killer"; he destroys for the sheer love of it. The exercise of power gives him immense gratification but there is nothing essentially cruel or vindictive about him.
STATS: Common for murderers (Bradley). Foreground Mars is part of one form of the profile for alcoholics (Bradley).

Notebook #93 observations: With Mars on MC, probable serious authority issues (with parental patterns involved) are at stake here, although I have too small a list to be sure.

OBSERVATIONS: Very few teachers (Eshelman notebooks). A surprising number of psychotics and near psychotics have a closely foreground Mars it seems (Eshelman notebooks, numerous examples - many due to extreme substance abuse).


U.S. PRESIDENTS:
ASC: Andrew Johnson, Gen. Rutherford B. Hayes, Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton
MC: Gen. Zachary Taylor, Franklin Roosevelt, Gen. Dwight Eisenhower
IC: Gen. William Henry Harrison, Herbert Hoover
DSC: Gen. George Washington, James Monroe
OTHER: Thomas Jefferson
(5 of the 8 Presidents who were also generals have Mars in the immediate foreground. Two of the remaining three had Mars-ruled luminaries.)
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JUPITER foreground

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SUMMARY: Positive, optimistic, oriented to the good and qualitative. Authoritative, strives for expertise and leadership. Unusually lucky. Aspires to (enjoys) life of leisure and its perks (seeks to improve self and conditions). Generous, congenial, tolerant, good-humored, kind. Sexually giving. Needs esteem and inclusion (usually well received; can be overly role-conscious). Responds to cultural totems, heritage, tradition, social graces, social and ceremonial rituals. Champion of justice and fair play. (If afflicted: air of superiority, judgmental, greedy, envious; making own luck through shady ethics or crime.)

[I am rewriting this page. It will look "under construction" as long as this note is present.]
  • Positive, optimistic, oriented to the good and qualitative.
  • Authoritative, strives for expertise and leadership.
  • Unusually lucky.
  • Aspires to (enjoys) life of leisure and its perks (seeks to improve self and conditions).
  • Generous, congenial, tolerant, good-humored, kind.
  • Sexually giving.
  • Needs esteem and inclusion (usually well received; can be overly role-conscious).
  • Responds to cultural totems, heritage, tradition, social graces, social and ceremonial rituals.
  • Champion of justice and fair play.
  • (If afflicted: air of superiority, judgmental, greedy, envious; making own luck through shady ethics or crime.)
SUN IN SAGITTARIUS (for comparison)
  • From SAG: Hierarchy or vertical rank is basic to their sense of order — socially, professionally, politically, intellectually, metaphysically.
  • From SAG: Earnest pursuit of excellence & quality. Keen sense that some things are better and others worse, or some things right and others wrong.
  • From SAG: Principled (stubborn, stiff, tedious).
  • From SAG: Ambitions may be material or spiritual, depending on the individual's highest values.
  • From SAG: More exclusive than inclusive. Great pride in doing well what they do. (Artistic only in the sense of eager for quality results & praise)
  • From SAG: Generous, kind, hospitable, polite, well-mannered, "behaved." Likes to be liked, included. Often uses tact or clemency in lieu of frankness (letting a problem go unsolved or a grievance unaired). -- Responds to general social expectations stronger than to pressures from individuals.
  • From SAG: Identifies with community (family or family surrogates): “the gang,” fraternity or sorority, religion, nation, race, political party, movement, team, clan, tribe, class, circle, or other group. - Loyal and committed to one's community (e.g., family loyalty, patriotism, “My (country, family, team, gang), right or wrong”).
  • From SAG: Progress-oriented. Respect for the acquired, built-up body of knowledge. - Adds to (or improves) it, uses it, expects others to carry it further in later generations.
  • From SAG: Prefers improving what has been raised and established before pursuing change. Preserves and enhances heritage, tradition, custom, convention, values, and cultural mythology or legend - the elements of a mature civilization. (Innovation is commonly through enhancement and building on historic foundations, or creating worldviews, models, or systems to explain them.)
  • From SAG: Enjoys civilization's fruits (especially those popular with the leisure class): Patron of most art forms; education, academics, religion, dramatic arts, history, travel, foreign affairs, education.
  • From SAG: Sense of humor is meager (commonly dry, corny, or "inside jokes").
  • From SAG: Judgmental and sensitive to judgment (takes it seriously). Critical (disapproving, condemning). Sees right vs. wrong, expects reward vs. punishment (discipline, sometimes severe).
  • From SAG: Self-image or self-satisfaction issues: Holds high standards of excellence and doesn't meet them. (Denigrates or side-steps compliments, feels undeserving. Doubts undercut ambitions.)
  • From SAG: In romance, play traditional roles in the social-sexual mating dance: Chivalrous men, courtly and gallant; gracious women who want to be courted and won (or modern equivalents). - Low sexual appetites (eroticism is de-centralized as affection and complacence).
  • From SAG: Religious themes in individual Sagittarians plus many significant prophetic and religious figures. Outside of religion, others also ascend to the pulpit (lit., an elevated platform) in their own fields, including numerous important heads of state, professors, lecturers, and TV hosts.
JUPITER FOREGROUND
  • Positive, optimistic, oriented to the good and qualitative.
  • Positive, optimistic, oriented to what is good and qualitative in life.
  • Aspires to (enjoys) life of leisure and its perks (seeks to improve self and conditions).
  • Aspires to (or practices) a life of leisure and its perquisites.
  • Ever trying to improve oneself and one's conditions.
  • From CANCER: Loves leisure.
  • Authoritative, strives for expertise and leadership.
  • Carries an air of superiority. Role-conscious, judgmental.
  • From SAG: HIGHER & HIGHER. Desires achievement, elevation, external affirmations (degrees, certificates, titles, respect). Wants to be a person of note, distinction, contribution, or expertise.
  • Unusually lucky.
  • Luck seems to follow Jupiter through life.
  • Generous, congenial, tolerant, good-humored, kind.
  • Likable, generous, congenial, and tolerant of others.
  • Good-humored, self-assured.
  • Supports the status quo and what is "proper" (it gets him what he wants).
  • He has a way of "selling himself" to others.
  • Sexually giving.
  • Tends to be very giving/generous sexually.
  • Needs esteem and inclusion (usually well received; can be overly role-conscious).
  • Needs esteem and inclusion (usually well received; can be overly role-conscious).
  • More than anything else, wants to be liked and to be important to someone.
  • From CANCER: Needs recognition/attention from others: thrives when it's positive, withers when it's negative.
  • Responds to cultural totems, heritage, tradition, social graces, social and ceremonial rituals.
  • Fondness for ceremony, possibly even a specifically religious or ritualistic predilection.
  • Champion of justice and fair play.
  • The champion of fair play (barring afflictions to Jupiter).
  • (If afflicted: air of superiority, judgmental, greedy, envious; making own luck through shady ethics or crime.)
  • A foreground afflicted Jupiter commonly has inflamed greed or envy and “makes its own luck” through opportunism, shady ethics, or even crime.
  • OTHER
  • From CANCER: Instinct for presentation or delivery (can embellish, dramatize, entertain).
  • Huge list of U.S. presidents (and those not born with angular Jupiter tend to have it angular in Washington). - Martin Van Buren, James K. Polk James Buchanan, Ulysses S. Grant, Rutherford B. Hayes, William McKinley, William H. Taft, Theodore Roosevelt, Lyndon B. Johnson, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush.
  • A surprisingly great number of significant astrologers in my files, including Alfred Witte, Anna-Kria King, Dane Rudhyar, Joanne Stonnell (Clancy), Kenneth Irving, Michel Gauquelin, and Noel Tyl.
  • (Incorporate Gauquelin character traits as appropriate:) At ease, ambitious, opportunistic, authoritarian, talkative, likes to assert himself, sense of the comical, communicative, debonair, spendthrift, gay, gesticulating often, good-humored, independent, happy, worldly, prodigal, bantering, likable, vain.
  • (Incorporate Gauquelin professional data as appropriate:) HIGH for soldiers, journalists, actors, politicians. LOW for scientists, doctors.
  • (Consider & incorporate Ebertin trait lists where found accurate:) (+) The urge to expand or extend, enlargement, ownership or possession, satisfaction, harmony, justice, constructive inclinations, optimism, a social sense, moral and religious aspirations, the faculty to survey the whole. (-) Disharmony, injustice, quarrelsomeness, antisocial conduct, amoral behavior, immorality, the craving for pleasure, greed, a materialistic attitude towards life.
  • (Incorporate Bradley statistical findings as appropriate:) Very scarce for murderers.
GAUQUELIN CHARACTER TRAITS: At ease, ambitious, opportunistic, authoritarian, talkative, likes to assert himself, sense of the comical, communicative, debonair, spendthrift, gay, gesticulating often, good-humored, independent, happy, worldly, prodigal, bantering, likable, vain.

GAUQUELIN PROFESSIONAL DATA:
HIGH: soldiers, journalists, actors, politicians
LOW: scientists, doctors

EBERTIN (compilation of useful theories)
POS: The urge to expand or extend, enlargement, ownership or possession, satisfaction, harmony, justice, constructive inclinations, optimism, a social sense, moral and religious aspirations, the faculty to survey the whole.
NEG: Disharmony, injustice, quarrelsomeness, antisocial conduct, amoral behavior, immorality, the craving for pleasure, greed, a materialistic attitude towards life.
Fagan & Firebrace wrote:When placed in the foreground natally it generally indicates that the native is born a gentleman, having the benefits of good parentage and an excellent education. It could be that these advantages are attained through his own efforts in later years. Jupiter, at all times, stands for the best of everything. Hence those who are fortunate enough to be born when it is dominant usually go to the best schools, wear the most stylish clothes, belong to the best clubs, consort with the best people, or enter the best professions, often the church, the law, consular services, the army, or medicine. Those whose incomes are derived from the land, real estate, wills, legacies, bequests, or from the interest from money held in trust, usually have Jupiter natally configured with Saturn, whilst those who amass a fortune through their own efforts but more especially through speculation, have Jupiter configured with Uranus. For a time show business brings prosperity to those having Jupiter configured with Neptune, but the money is soon dissipated. Its configuration with Pluto savors of ill-gotten prosperity.
Garth Allen, AAM 6/56 wrote:A word about the connection of Jupiter with crimes of gain as contrasted wit crimes of vengeance or of erotic depravity. A powerful natal Jupiter that is badly laced with afflictions will often compel its owner to so crave the accouterments which signify social altitude that he may go to dishonorable extremes to satisfy this desire, even resorting to embezzlement or outright robbery. This is the rationale for the frequent prominence of Jupiter in the astrology of crime patterns... Every reader surely knows at least one individual of the afflicted Jupiter type whose eyes light up at every passing Cadillac and haberdashery window, but who cannot seem to save even a dollar a week toward ultimate lawful purchase of the coveted objects... It is the ergie of Jupiter in you that makes you feel a wee bit embarrassed when you are with new people you would like to impress favorably but have to let know that you work behind a counter or with a drill or beside a conveyor belt, and so on."
STATS: Very scarce for murderers (Bradley). In employment start charts, marks a superior worker; but they tend to gain allies so become hard to terminate (Quellas).

U.S. PRESIDENTS:
ASC: James Polk, U.S. Grant, William Howard Taft, Theodore Roosevelt, Lyndon B. Johnson
IC: James Buchanan, William McKinley, George W. Bush
DSC: Millard Fillmore
OTHER: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison
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Needs to be self-reliant, self-sufficient, autonomous, independent; maturing is a process of securing autonomy. Works hard, industrious. Survival instinct is strong & drives much of the behavior. Hardship likely (especially in youth); struggle for security; life’s demands seem severe (some are beaten down; some gain great strength & endurance). Cautious, emotionally reserved, self-protective, conscientious, methodical, austere (may shut others out emotionally). Beware self-restriction arising from fear.

SATURN FOREGROUND (in preparation for revision of the above text)
  • Needs to be totally self-reliant, to stand on his own two feet, look the world in the face, and dare it to knock him down.
  • Hardship in life (especially in childhood).
  • Emphasizes in his own mind the negative side of a situation until he learns that no one will help him if he does not first help himself.
  • May restrict own freedoms and own happiness if indulging strong feelings of inferiority.
  • SELF-PRESERVATION instinct is strongly marked in these self-protective individuals. Hard working, industrious.
  • Often shut others out of their lives emotionally, relating only on a cautious, reserved level. Often silent, withdrawn.
  • Seeks that which is stable, proven, and sure; hence, conservative in practical matters of day-to-day living.
  • Reserved, conscientious, methodical, observant.
  • (Incorporate Gauquelin character traits as appropriate:) Formal, reserved, conscientious, cold, methodical, meticulous, modest, observant, organized, not talkative, precise, refletive, retiring, wise, melancholy, timid, industrious, silent, sad.
  • (Incorporate Gauquelin professional data as appropriate:) HIGH for scientists, doctors. LOW for artists, journalists, actors, writers.
  • (Consider & incorporate Ebertin trait lists where found accurate:) (+) Concentration, consolidation, perseverance, seriousness, the ability to learn from experience, economy. (-) Inhibition, melancholy, reserve and taciturnity, increasing loneliness, isolation, eccentricity, distrust, stinginess, lack of adaptability.
  • (Incorporate other listed findings below where confirmed.)
GAUQUELIN CHARACTER TRAITS: Formal, reserved, conscientious, cold, methodical, meticulous, modest, observant, organized, not talkative, precise, reflective, retiring, reserved, wise, melancholy, timid, industrious, silent, sad.

GAUQUELIN PROFESSION DATA:
HIGH: Scientists, doctors
LOW: Artists, journalists, actors, writers.

EBERTIN (compilation of useful theories)
POS: Concentration, consolidation, perseverance, seriousness, the ability to learn from experience, economy.
NEG: Inhibition, melancholy, reserve and taciturnity, increasing loneliness, isolation, eccentricity, distrust, stinginess, lack of adaptability.

Notebook #93 observations: Marked endurance. On Ascendant: a little anomic, private, defining their own way, with a strong sense of character.

U.S. PRESIDENTS:
Asc: James Madison, Jimmy Carter
MC: Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover, John F. Kennedy
DSC: Franklin Pierce, Rutherford B. Hayes
IC: William Howard Taft
OTHER: James Monroe, James Buchanan
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Strongly individualistic, independent, going their own way. Needs freedom & breathing room (physical, intellectual) and frequent renewal (through new interests & experiences, shedding inhibitions, shaking loose stale conditions). Responds strongly to the new, unexpected, thrilling, colorful, exciting. Pragmatic realist anchored by naked truth. Clownish, fun. Prefers disclosure over mystery.

URANUS FOREGROUND (in preparation for revision of the above text)
  • Strongly individualistic and original. Charting their own course.
  • Clownish, fun, "real characters."
  • Freedom is their most valued treasure. Constant variation and novelty of experience are important to them.
  • "Seeker self." Cf. "orienting reflex" as basis for understanding Uranus neurologically.
  • Casts inhibitions aside as they seek new circumstances and a wide variety of experience.
  • Need plenty of breathing room, whether feeling the claustrophobia of closed quarters or the "call of the wind," to take to the road and be gone.
  • Inner excitability, may lead to chronic nervous tension.
  • (Consider & incorporate Ebertin trait lists where found accurate:) (+) Peculiarity, independence, love of freedom, independent action and ideas, enthusiasm for every thing that is new or modern, agility or motility, good powers of perception, intuition allied with objective judgement, easy excitability. A sense of rhythm. (-) An obstrinate nature, lack of adaptability, rebellion, revolutionary tendencies, an excitable nature, impulsive actions, strong emotional tensions, passion for innovation, changeability of character.
  • (Incorporate Bradley statistical findings as appropriate:) Moderately infrequent for murders
  • (Incorporate observations as appropriate:) Few teachers (Eshelman notebooks). - Uranus is not a mark of one particular ideology. (See examples of U.S. Presidents & Supreme Court justices.) What all (or nearly all) Uranus-angular Presidents have had in common is enormous courage and ingenuity. Significant military leadership was tied into generally exceptional resourcefulness, pragmatism, and charting their own way independent of ideology.
  • (Incorporate other listed findings below where confirmed.)
EBERTIN (compilation of useful theories)
POS: Peculiarity, independence, love of freedom, independent action and ideas, enthusiasm for every thing that is new or modern, agility or motility, good powers of perception, intuition allied with objective judgement, easy excitability. A sense of rhythm.
NEG: An obstrinate nature, lack of adaptability, rebellion, revolutionary tendencies, an excitable nature, impulsive actions, strong emotional tensions, passion for innovation, changeability of character.

STATS: Moderately infrequent for murders (Bradley).
OBSERVATIONS: Few teachers (Eshelman notebooks).

Notebook #93 observations: On MC: Overall, they are people who have a hard time "fitting in." (This is true to a lesser degree of the other angles.) On IC: I need to explore the relationship of attachment-connection to their independence etc. For example, in social and other groups, they seem more liikely to remain in the group and "act out," where the other angles are more likely to leave under similar situations.

GARTH ALLEN on the URANUS CHARACTER (Kid Gloves)
“The true Uranian simply is not blood-blinded, for he automatically appraises the character and worthiness of his flesh relative with the same unclouded eye by which he measures the mettle of a foreigner.”

“…there is a characteristic detachment from natural obligations and earthy relationships – often a complete repudiation of lineage and citizenship in the sense of being ‘in the world but not of it.’ The typical Uranian has a tendency toward being so dedicated to what he believes to be his predestined reason for having been born, he is apt to be heedless of his loved ones and careless about himself. At times a blessing to his progress, at other times a blight on his personality, the innate trait of impersonableness, the ability to think apart from personal equations, is the most conspicuous earmark of the Uranus-dominated individual. To the Uranian, his boss, the Pope, the minister, the cop, the President himself, ‘are, after all, just people.’ When the Uranian’s key planet is afflicted at birth, it is difficult to find anybody more arrogant and undesirable as a friend.”

“Uranus always goes head first, especially during the height of travail.”


U.S. PRESIDENTS:
ASC: Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, William Henry Harrison, Franklin Roosevelt, Ronald Reagan
IC: John Adams, Herbert Hoover
DSC: Dwight Eisenhower, Barack Obama
OTHER: Martin Van Buren, Theodore Roosevelt
[3 of the four with Uranus rising also had Pluto on the Midheaven. FDR was the exception.]
[Notice that Uranus is not a mark of one particular ideology. John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were ideologically opposed on many key issues. Cf. Supreme Court judges, where Scalia, Alito, Roberts, Kennedy, and O’Connor all have foreground Uranus. – What all (or nearly all) Uranus-angular Presidents have had in common is enormous courage and ingenuity. Three were generals, and both Roosevelts demonstrated other significant military leadership - in most cases, that was tied into generally exceptional resourcefulness, pragmatism, and charting their own way independent of ideology.]
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Sensitive, vulnerable, feels strongly (tunes into others deeply, not always accurately; feels exposed, over-response). Naturally absorbs & mirrors others’ traits. Sympathy, compassion, empathy (or emotional drama, insecurity, easily hooked, betrayed). Lives in own reality, tenacious with their viewpoint, impervious to logic, passionate about what uniquely frames their view. Favors complexity over simplicity. Dwells within the unknown, choosing mystery over revelation.

NEPTUNE FOREGROUND (in preparation for revision of the above text)
  • Highly sensitive - which is sometimes good and sometimes bad!
  • Emotionally over-responsive, tuning into others too acutely and not always clearly.
  • In general, easily "hooked," tempted, drawn in, etc.
  • On the positive side: sympathy, compassion, empathy, psychic talents
  • On the negative side: They exaggerate conditions in their minds and remain in a state of emotional insecurity. Self-dramatization. Quite sensitive to rejection and afraid of betrayal (or generally feeling exposed and vulnerable).
  • Naturally absorbs, assimilates, and replicates characteristics of others, molding themselves by the replication or identification.
  • Lives on own bubble-reality, highly committed to holding tenaciously onto their distinctive point of view on how the world works - almost impenetrable in this, impervious to others' logic. Most are quite passionate about those things that uniquely frame and occupy their reality.
  • Wants to be sure of situations before exposing themselves.
  • Needs intense feelings around him at all times. Thrives on ambient emotional vitality.
  • Emotionally dependent on others. "Merger Self" (contrast Uranus).
  • Misoneistic. Uncomfortable with change or surprise, disregarding new information which tends to contradict what is already "known" to be true.
  • Lives in an idealistic world of hoped-for perfection. (Neptune is the function of selective perception and selective vision, with all the good and bad inherent in these.)
  • Benefits from channeling dreams and creative imagination toward the practical.
  • (Consider & incorporate Ebertin trait lists where found accurate:) (+) Receptivity, fantasy or imagination ,sensitivity, contemplation, sympathetic understanding or compassionate sensitivity, a dreamy nature, an inclination to mysticism, mediumism. (-) Impressionability, sensitiveness, vagueness or lack of clarity, confusion, fanciful notions, deception, a lack of planning ability, a lie or a fraud.
  • (Incorporate Bradley statistical findings as appropriate:) High for murderers
  • (Incorporate other listed findings below where confirmed.)
EBERTIN (compilation of useful theories)
POS: Receptivity, fantasy or imagination ,sensitivity, contemplation, sympathetic understanding or compassionate sensitivity, a dreamy nature, an inclination to mysticism, mediumism.
NEG: Impressionability, sensitiveness, vagueness or lack of clarity, confusion, fanciful notions, deception, a lack of planning ability, a lie or a fraud.

STATS: High for murderers (Bradley).
OBSERVATIONS: Frequent among school teachers (Eshelman notebooks).


U.S. PRESIDENTS:
ASC: Bill Clinton
MC: John Adams, Martin Van Buren, Abraham Lincoln
IC: James A. Garfield, Chester A. Arthur, Gerald Ford
DSC: Benjamin Harrison, Ronald Reagan
OTHER: Theodore Roosevelt
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun May 07, 2017 8:58 pm

Social outliers needing to be authentically themselves, without labels or arbitrary standards or expectations. Eccentric, antisocial, outrageous; won’t melt into the conventional collective. Singularly unique in their context, on their own path (vulnerable to persecution). Gentle, inoffensive, innocent, shy. Grapples with spiritual actualities. (If severely afflicted: cruel, unfeeling, inhuman.)

PLUTO FOREGROUND (in preparation for revision of the above text)
  • The loners of society. Unique, often cantankerous individuals who refuse to melt into the mire of custom.
  • Whether personally or professionally, whether successful or not, they tend to be "black sheep," running their own path, singularly standing out from context.
  • The exceptions to the rule: Writes own code of behavior as necessary.
  • To escape constant persecution for being "different" from the masses, draw within self and remains remote from the rest of the world.
  • Not essentially shy - just don't wish to be bothered.
  • Usually gentle and inoffensive, but leaves self open to abuse.
  • Formal standards are generally disregarded as arbitrary, but they have a strong faith in human dignity and will not tolerate inhumanity or injustice (to their own keen moral code).
  • In constant search of meaning. Agnostic because they attach themselves to no formal faith, yet possessing a deep spiritual potential for understanding.
  • (Incorporate Bradley statistical findings as appropriate:) High for murders. "Its role in the climatology of crime is unquestionable" (Bradley)
  • (Incorporate other listed findings below where confirmed.)
STATS: High for murders (Bradley): "Its role in the climatology of crime is unquestionable."

GARTH ALLEN on the PLUTO CHARACTER(Kid Gloves)
“The singling-out function of Pluto expresses itself as intense individuality, in a setting of oneself apart from the common throng, not in the aristocratic sense of elitism but in the antisocial sense of to hell with it all. Pluto-dominated souls suffer spiritually when being counted as mere members of a herd. Their contention against society is usually a matter of trying to keep from being dissolved by the gastric juices of Establishment mores and politics. They can be frighteningly cruel and unfeeling if Pluto is linked with a malefic planet, in which case the antisociality can take on diabolic forms. By contrast, Pluto coupled with a benefic can take on or radiate utterly angelic qualities. The dearest, most inoffensive souls you encounter in life are apt to have strong, unafflicted Plutos. No, Pluto by itself is not a malefic; it is more sinned against than sinning. People noted for their genuine niceness and lack of guile are born under Pluto interweavings with other benefic planetary forces.

“People who are strongly Plutonian in makeup and behavior often dress garishly and in defiance of majority tastes even though they are the essentially timid, nonaggressive type. They can be the prime examples of sheer high camp – innocent and ingenuous at the same time they are being what polite conformists consider outrageous in manner and viewpoint. They seem completely at home in the forest primeval, for they have natural rapport with other forms of life, just as they can seem part of the décor of a bohemian coffeehouse. Don’t misunderstand: they are not of the great unwashed ilk who consider themselves children of Nature and seekers of Truth. Rather, they are the real thing in the way of God’s children – because Plutonians need no countercultural trappings, no doctrines or causes or poses to fall back on as the raison d’etre of their existence. They just are, and that is all there is to it. It is difficult to hassle them about anything creedal or ethnic; they won’t want to argue back out of consideration for your own blood pressure. This innate air of naivete makes them seem to invite aggression by others, which is why it is said that upbeat Plutonians are born targets for romantic and erotic overtures – and sometimes forcible molestation.”
John Kahila, AA 8/70 wrote:Without exception, the Pluto-rising nativities with which I have dealt have belonged to individuals who are at best alienated and isolated by choice from the rest of the world. More often, the native is in addition highly introspective, shy, painfully self-conscious, and ‘hung up’ in that he suffers from a great degree of repression. Never in my experience have these natives been inclined to violence, unless there are other exceptionally strong indications of this... Pluto’s qualities may be best described as self-consciousness, repression, discipline, self-imposed isolation from others, and avoidance of emotional commitment to anything or anyone.

[Pluto in hard aspect] appears to indicate only that the native will have some difficulty expressing freely the qualities of the afflicting planet, often because a compulsion of some type develops about those qualities… Again, the [soft] aspects do not indicate so much that the other planet is energized or transformed, but instead suggest a very deep-rooted development of the quality in question.
U.S. PRESIDENTS:
ASC: James Madison, William Howard Taft, Herbert Hoover
MC: Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, William Henry Harrison, Benjamin Harrison
IC: John Q. Adams, George W. Bush [distinctive pair on "legacy" issues!]
DSC: James Garfield, Chester Arthur, William McKinley
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun May 09, 2021 10:47 am

Exploration of Eris is relatively new. Ideas we have today may vary significantly from what we discern in the future. Please consider the following tentative and exploratory.

SUMMARY: Mischievous, curious, trickster, outlier, and disruptor: Naturally navigates the swarm of chaos more easily with practical advantage (but thus also leaves a wake of chaos, disrupting imposed orders and conditions, because they have little native resistance to disorder). Manages the incomprehensible, juggles undecided possibilities.

ERIS FOREGROUND
  • Mischievous, curious, trickster.
  • Outlier, and disruptor.
  • Naturally navigates the swarm of chaos more easily with practical advantage, but thus also leaves a wake of chaos, disrupting imposed orders and conditions, because they have little native resistance to disorder.
  • Manages the incomprehensible, juggles undecided possibilities.
STATS: (None so far.)

U.S. PRESIDENTS:
ASC: Theodore Roosevelt
MC:
IC: John Quincy Adams
DSC: Richard M. Nixon, Bill Clinton
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