U.S. President local anglarity for DC

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U.S. President local anglarity for DC

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu May 11, 2017 11:11 am

For the best birth data we have for the 43 men who have served as U.S. President, here are notes on what became angular for them in Washington, DC. (I have them sorted by birth date, youngest to oldest, so the order isn't exactly the same as the sequence of Presidents - though it's close.)

As usual, proximity to horizon and meridian are measured in PV longitude. Squares to Ascendant and MC are ecliptical. EP-WP contacts are measured in Right Ascension.

I think you will agree that there are some striking expressions of their acquired eminence in most cases and, in others, stark indications of how their administration went.

Barack Obama
Pluto sq Asc (0°56')
Moon on Asc (1°24')
Sun 4+° from IC

Bill Clinton
Jupiter on EP (1°10')
Venus remains distantly foreground

George W. Bush
Jupiter on IC (1°17')
Moon on IC (1°22')
-- Moon-Jupiter mundane conj. (0°05')
Pluto on Asc (4°40')
Mercury and Saturn distantly foreground

Jimmy Carter
Saturn on Asc (0°37')

George H.W. Bush
Mars on WP (0°59')
Mercury on MC (2°10')

John F. Kennedy
(None.)

Gerald R. Ford
Venus on Asc (3°05')
Mercury on IC (4°37')
-- Mercury-Venus mundane square (1°32')
Moon, Saturn, and Mars more distantly foreground

Richard M. Nixon
Neptune on MC (0°44')
Sun sq. Asc (1°25')

Ronald Reagan
Sun on Asc (0°04')
Venus sq. MC (0°27')
Moon sq. Asc (1°36')
Jupiter sq. Asc (2°44')
-- Moon-Jupiter op. (1°08')

Lyndon B. Johnson
Moon on EP (1°21')
Mercury on EP (1°48')
-- Moon-Mercury conj. (0°27' in RA)
NB. It would be hard for Johnson's chart to get more eminent than it was for birthplace.

Dwight Eisenhower
Moon sq. MC (0°17')
Jupiter on MC (2°11')
-- Moon-Jupiter sq. (0°03')
Venus on Dsc (2°55')
Neptune very distantly foreground

Harry Truman
Jupiter sq. Asc (0°27')
Moon on EP (1°09')

Franklin Roosevelt
Uranus on EP (0°54')
Mars distantly foreground

Herbert Hoover
Pluto on Asc (1°42')
Sun on IC (2°59')
-- Sun-Pluto mundane sq (1°17')

Calvin Coolidge
Pluto on MC (2°03')

Warren G. Harding
Jupiter on MC (4°08')
Neptune distantly foreground

Theodore Roosevelt
Jupiter on Asc (1°12')
Uranus on EP (1°11')
Venus more widely foreground

William H. Taft
Jupiter on Asc (1°06')
Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto distantly angular
-- Uranus-Pluto mundane conj. (0°49')

Woodrow Wilson
Mercury on IC (0°29')
Saturn distantly foreground

William McKinley
Moon on IC (2°46')
Jupiter on IC (2°55')
-- Moon-Jupiter mundane conj. (0°09')
Sun more widely foreground

Grover Cleveland
(None; or, Venus somewhat widely angular.)

Benjamin Harrison
Neptune sq. MC (0°26')
Moon & Jupiter distantly foreground
-- Moon-Jupiter mundane op. (0°51')

James Garfield
Pluto on Dsc (2°13')

Chester Arthur
Sun on EP (0°48')
Pluto & Moon widely foreground
-- Moon-Pluto mundane sq (0°32')

Rutherford B. Hayes
Uranus on Dsc (1°07')
Neptune on Dsc (1°16')
-- Uranus-Neptune mundane conj. (0°14')
Pluto sq. Asc (2°22')

U.S. Grant
Jupiter sq. MC (1°55')

Abraham Lincoln
Mercury on Asc (2°55')
Saturn sq. Asc (1°12')
Neptune sq. Asc (2°21')
-- Saturn/Neptune sq. MC (0°35')
Pluto sq. MC (1°58)
Sun & Jupiter widely foreground

Andrew Johnson
(None; or somewhat widely foreground Mars.

Franklin Pierce
Pluto on Asc (1°55')

Millard Fillmore
Mercury on Asc (0°02')
Jupiter on Dsc (0°18')
-- Mercury-Jupiter mundane op. (0°20')

James Polk
Moon on Dsc (1°47')
Jupiter on Asc (3°28')
-- Moon-Jupiter mundane conj. (1°41')
Venus widely foregrund

James Buchanan
Jupiter on IC (4°48')
Moon on Dsc (5°11')
-- Moon-Jupiter mundane sq. (0°23')

John Tyler
Sun on Asc (0°53')
Saturn on Asc (2°34')
Mercury distantly foreground

Zachary Taylor
(None.)

Martin Van Buren
Sun on Asc (1°06')
Jupiter on EP (1°47')
Venus & Neptune distantly foreground

William H. Harrison
Mercury on MC (1°47')
Uranus on Asc (2°26')
-- Mercury-Uranus mundane sq. (0°39')
Mars distantly foreground

John Quincy Adams
Saturn on MC (1°38')

Andrew Jackson
Uranus on Asc (2°33')

James Monroe
Mars on Dsc (0°57')
Saturn on EP (0°40')
Neptune on Dsc (3°35')

James Madison
Sun on IC (2°52')
Saturn & Pluto more distantly foreground

Thomas Jefferson
Mars on WP (1°07')
Uranus on Asc (2°44')
Pluto on MC (4°01')
-- Uranus-Pluto mundane sq. (1°17')

John Adams (for NYC)
Uranus on IC (0°44')
Neptune more distantly foreground

George Washington (for NYC)
Mars on Dsc (0°48')
Pluto on Dsc (2°42')
Mercury more widely foreground
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Re: U.S. President local anglarity for DC

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu May 11, 2017 11:12 am

Here is the frequency:

10 Jupiter
8 Moon
7 Sun Uranus Pluto
6 Mercury
5 Saturn
4 Mars
3 Neptune
2 Venus

Also, 7 charts had a partile or nearly-partile foreground Moon-Jupiter aspect.
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu May 11, 2017 11:12 am

Arena wrote:I noticed those Moon-Jupiter aspects being a common theme. Seems like the Moon is more common than the Sun, specially if you count them all. I would have thought there would be more in common with them, but the common theme is that there are planets close to angles, many of them partile, but most of them within 3 degr.

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu May 11, 2017 11:13 am

I have a spreadsheet. I don't think I've ever posted the whole breakdown, though individual factors are posted here, e.g., luminary sign rankings in the sign interpretation sections. What would you like to know?

The Jupiter angularity preference if overwhelmingly significant - it's gigantic. This is even more so if we limit these to those who served since 1900 (which are those for whom birth times are more rigorously reliable, as well as excluding those earliest Presidents who were all East Coast natives that had very little movement between home and the capital, e.g., most were from Virginia).

Aries and Virgo are the most common Sun-signs, although there hasn't been an Aries since Truman and most of them are pre-Civil War. OTOH there have been two Virgos in my lifetime, so the trending there is more recent. The only Aquarians have been the iconic figures of Washington and Lincoln. Similarly, there are only two Tauruses (both in the last 50 years) and two Cancers (both in this century, and serving during some of our worst economic times that weren't their fault).

Moon-signs spike at Sagittarius, but there hasn't been a single Sag Moon since the Civil War. Leo and Aries are next, and tied, the three "Fire" or imperial signs accounting for 16 of the 43 Presidents. There has never been an Aquarius Moon, though the nation itself has an Aquarius Moon.

Angularity is hard to assess. This might be because of uncertainty or imprecision of birth times for some of the early ones, but I don't think so. If you do a straight-up count, Jupiter edges out the rest, with Mars right behind and Venus barely represented. If you weight them (more important angles getting more points), Pluto takes the lead, Jupiter and Mars are a notch behind it, and Moon is barely represented.

I have aspects graphed in several ways, but they all show a huge surplus of Moon-Jupiter aspects.

In a straight-up "raw" count, Mercury-Jupiter and Mercury-Uranus are next most common. However, if you weight them by type of aspect (heavier weight for dynamic aspects), Venus-Pluto is the second place (far behind Moon-Jupiter), with Mercury-Jupiter and Moon-Mars coming next. If you count only the dynamic aspects and exclude trines and sextiles altogether, Moon-Jupiter is trailed by a tie of Venus-Pluto and Mercury-Pluto.
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu May 11, 2017 11:13 am

Limiting ourselves to those who have served since the dawn of the 20th Century, we find 8 closely angular Jupiters where we would expect less than one and a half by pure chance. That's a lot!
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu May 11, 2017 11:13 am

FlorencedeZ. wrote:Thanks a lot Jim. Ten times angular Jupiter is quite amazing as well as the Moon and Pluto many times foreground.

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu May 11, 2017 11:14 am

Arena wrote:Valuable information indeed.

I thought about this driving home from work today and the question came to my mind again, what about their natals? Their angularity in congress city shows this angularity, but do their natal charts also show some kind of angularity at birth place that is of similar nature or are there some overwhelming results there to be seen as well?

I guess I have to get that Jupiter of mine that is partile aspected to Pluto and partile aspected to the Moon in the Novien into angular position to get elected! :lol:

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Arena wrote:I thought about this driving home from work today and the question came to my mind again, what about their natals? Their angularity in congress city shows this angularity, but do their natal charts also show some kind of angularity at birth place that is of similar nature or are there some overwhelming results there to be seen as well?
Somewhat. But not nearly as acutely as in Washington. It seems pretty decisive that they have what is essentially the status of royalty when at that geographic location, and not otherwise (except, of course, for the many who have foreground Jupiter or Sun anyway).

Presidents with angular Suns (natal):
James Madison
Martin Van Buren
John Tyler
James K. Polk
Abraham Lincoln
Ulysses S. Grant
Chester A. Arthur
Dwight David Eisenhower
Gerald R. Ford
Ronald Reagan
Barack Obama

Presidents with angular Jupiter (natal):
Martin Van Buren
James K. Polk
Millard Fillmore
James Buchanan
Ulysses S. Grant
Rutherford B. Hayes
Benjamin Harrison
William McKinley
Theodore Roosevelt
William Howard Taft
Lyndon Baines Johnson
George H.W. Bush
George W. Bush
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu May 11, 2017 11:14 am

Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:Arena all the birthdata for US presidents is available at the Astro Data Bank. It makes a nice test set in a lot of ways because so much of the happenings of their lives are known down to the minute, but you have to remember this is a group of all men, and men with money and connections at that.

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu May 11, 2017 11:15 am

Arena wrote:Ok, so a lot of them do have an angular Sun or Jupiter at birth location, that adds to the picture. I would like to see a breakdown of all of them and their angularity at birth place. That is part of the whole picture in my view.
You can count them up and compile a list from the data in this thread. - I'm not going to add the local angularities to my mega-spreadsheet on the presidents, but it's here in this thread.
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