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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:56 am

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Schumer has the actual authority to schedule it; but McConnell still has political clout...
I am confused. Is the Senate actual count 50 Reps 48 Dems and 2 Independents (who sides with the Dems), which I guess still gives Mitch blocking power to introduce bills to the Senate floor????

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:11 am

SteveS wrote:
Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:56 am
Jim wrote:
Schumer has the actual authority to schedule it; but McConnell still has political clout...
I am confused. Is the Senate actual count 50 Reps 48 Dems and 2 Independents (who sides with the Dems), which I guess still gives Mitch blocking power to introduce bills to the Senate floor????
There are a whole lot of ways to block something from coming to the floor. In fact, among the obscure rules in the Senate, there are some (unclear to me) situations where any single Senator can block a matter from coming to a vote.

But the main issue here is the political dance. If all Democrats vote together, they will win any vote that isn't tied up by filibuster. The filibuster is the greatest tool the Republicans now have: Under the Senate's rules allowing extensive deliberation on a topic, any Senator, once he or she is called on and has the floor, can hold the floor for an unlimited amount of time provided they don't stop or sit down. This can go on for days and tie everything up. How do you beat a filibuster? There is a higher priority parliamentary action, which is a vote to end debate; but the vote to end debate requires 60 votes.

Therefore, to overcome the long stalling power of a filibuster, it takes 60 votes, not 50. Republicans can, therefore, halt most things from coming to a vote.

There are exceptions, though. I think approval of presidential appointments is exempt from filibuster, so the Cabinet appointments can at least come to a vote. But the relief bill can't come to a vote unless at least 10 Republicans vote to make it happen, and many things concerning the impeachment trial are also subject to this (aside from the fact that removal from office will require 2/3 of the Senators present).

This is aside from the fact that McConnell has enormous political power, i.e., the ability to compel loyalty and have people side with him. This isn't a parliamentary power, it's just pure political power. He still heads his party in the Senate. His leadership position is under attack by Trump loyalists, though, who have particularly focused on his statement that Trump committed impeachable acts and that he MIGHT vote to remove. One block of Republicans in the Senate have state candidly that if McConnell votes to remove Trump, they will see that he is removed as party leader. OTOH many observers think that McConnell's clout is so strong that if he says he's voting to remove, at least another 16 Republican Senators will go along with him - removing Trump's rights to run for office and marking history with a full Republican rebuke of Trump, letting the party distance itself from him going forward.

In other words: McConnell is sitting at an ongoing poker game with the second highest pile of chips and a LOT of opportunities to bargain.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:19 am

Independents who vote with the Democrats and are given committee positions by Democrats also vote for the Democratic leadership and count as not-Republicans, ie Democrats when counting up who has the majority.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:25 am

The majority party can vote at the beginning of a session, to block fillibusters, which is what the Republicans did to the Democrats the last two sessions (4 years)

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:04 pm

JSAD wrote:
Independents who vote with the Democrats and are given committee positions by Democrats also vote for the Democratic leadership and count as not-Republicans, ie Democrats when counting up who has the majority.
So, if I understand, the 2 Independents generally will always vote with the Dems, actually making the senate 50-50, but with Harris casting possible "break the tie" stuff for floor votes, the majority now exists with the Dems on getting Bills to the floor for a vote. This still means at least 10 Rep senators would have to vote with the 50 Dem senators to officially pass a Bill into law, provided there was no Veto from the Prez. Correct?

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:54 pm

No, not correct. A bill can pass on 51 votes. They need 60 if the president vetos or to stop a fillibuster.

Steve, read this: http://nacns.org/wp-content/uploads/201 ... ics101.pdf and https://guides.library.pdx.edu/c.php?g=271192&p=1810844
Those should answer most of these civics questions for you without taking up space on Jim's server for non-astrological stuff.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:45 pm

Thanks JSAD.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:58 pm

Deal reached between the two Senate leaders to delay Trump's trial two weeks, starting around February 8. That's a day after his new SLR with Neptune to Sun-Moon on angles.

In mundane charts, the Bridge is Neptune-Jupiter-Mars and the forecast already includes, "court or other legal issues stir raging emotions." The February 9 Caplunar forecasts "in most respects... a good, positive, upbeat period" with "celebrations, victories, festivities, happiness, love, and world-witnessed weddings and births," which I doubt is a reference to the trial. I'm sure my forecast of political polarization will be right, as will the forecast that, "Deals are struck, tradeoffs of what costs vs. gains..."
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:09 am

Jim, your understand political processes much better than me. On a scale of 1-10, with the higher number being more likely, what number do you allow Trump will be in Senate trial.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:19 am

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Jim, your understand political processes much better than me. On a scale of 1-10, with the higher number being more likely, what number do you allow Trump will be in Senate trial.
Do you mean, will he be physically present? Quite low. I don't think he showed up last time. Clinton never showed up IIRC. He doesn't have to be there.

However, there is SOME chance since he likes an audience. Depending on when the trial occurs, it might be under one of the lunar returns playing up his need for an audience. Anybody around him with any sense would advise against this, but he doesn't have as many people around him, especially those who would advise against this. If he has any sense, he'll stay in Florida and get in front of the cameras a lot from his front lawn.

So... 2 or 3 chances out of 10.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:36 am

Thanks Jim.

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Re: Sidereal Lunar Return 2/7/21

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:30 am

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Effective Feb 6 to Mar 6. After two weeks of probable relaxation, Donald Trump is back in the spotlight and breaks forth with big news - if he is in or around Washington. Natal Sun-Moon opposition is across the Eastpoint axis (partile) with transiting Neptune on IC (2°). Neptune squares his Moon.

What can thrive under this is Trump the TV character, the performer, the entertainer. With the great strength of his luminaries, this probably will prevail. However, this is also an example of the slow psyche-eroding encroachment of Neptune to aspect his luminaries. Neptune to Moon enhances his vulnerabilities... I believe he will be solidly in the headlines because of the 0°00' Sun-Mercury mundane conjunction in Washington...
Yesterday the defense team rested their case. Today, the Senate was expected to vote acquittal. However, this morning a surprise vote 55-45 agreed to call witnesses. I still expect acquittal, of course - it's the way of the world of Washington politics - but we could always be surprised.

We don't know when the final vote will come, though I think it will be soon. I'd like to avoid the symbolism of it occurring on Monday (tying it to Presidents' Day), but it might be later today or tomorrow (or there may be other unexpected delays). In any case, I don't think it will be delayed another week, which means that it will be under this SLR discussed above.

Were it to be delayed until February 20, it would be under the Demi-SLR. The Demi reads much the same as the SLR above except tighter focus on Neptune. It still could be a chart just of an entertainer's bombast etc., but it seems more humiliating to me. If the verdict waited that long, the odds of a conviction increase. Neptune will be 0°28' from EP and 1°49' from Ascendant square natal Moon 0°13' from IC (also square his Sun in mundo but I haven't done the exact math).

By transits, we know that his world has been shaken. On Inauguration Day, he had 0°00' transits of Pluto opposite his Saturn, Neptune square his Uranus, and Saturn octile his Uranus. The Pluto and Neptune aspects are still well within orb (e.g., Pluto-Saturn is 44' today). Transiting Saturn also trines his Neptune within a few minutes today: Transiting trines rarely show events but they can certainly show states of mind, and his is morbid (the trine is exact tomorrow). Sun opposes his Mars on Monday, so we'll likely see him strike out at people mercilessly (something he won't do openly unless the trial is over).

But something hard lands on him today, too: Transiting Mars exactly crossed his Mar-A-Lago MC this morning and will square his local Asc Wednesday. He'll have a hard time holding back next week and is probably poised to strike out as soon as a vote comes in his favor. That expected exoneration likely will coincide with transiting Jupiter in orb of his Mar-A-Lago Westpoint.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:46 am

Excellent observations.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:54 pm

February 13, 2021, at 3:51 PM, he was acquited 57 guilty to 43 not-guilty. It would have taken 2/3rds of the sitting senators would have to guilty. The Senate trial is adjourned as of 3:53 PM.
48 democrats, 7 republicans and 2 independents.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:46 am

Trump is still under investigation in Manhattan for various financial crimes involving his businesses there, for bank, insurance and tax fraud.
He's also being looked at in Georgia for violations of election law, for the phone calls to various GA state and county officials. Lindsey Graham is now being investigated for election violations in Georgia as well.
The New York attorney general is looking into whether Trump failed to pay New York state taxes.
The District of Columbia AG is looking into whether Trump's inaugural committee violated charities laws by paying hefty sums to Trump's hotels.
He's not a focus of the investigation into the insurrection on Jan 6th, but is certainly deeply involved in it, and was considered the leader of it by many of the insurrectionists.

Those are just (some of) the criminal charges. The civil suits are no longer being blocked by the Justice Department since he's out of office, so they're moving forward as well.

So that next SSR should offer a lot to observe, especially the timing of trials and verdicts. Solar Arcs, Lunars, SQs and PSSRs and transits should all have lots to say.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Thu Feb 18, 2021 7:17 am

JSAD wrote:
So that next SSR should offer a lot to observe, especially the timing of trials and verdicts.
I agree and think this is when he will experience the worst of any possible verdicts.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:54 am

The Supreme Court declined to block the NY Grand Jury from getting Trump's tax returns, both personal and business today Feb 22, 2021. Announcement between 9:30 AM and 9:35 AM Eastern. On Twitter by 9:36 AM

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:15 am

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:54 am
The Supreme Court declined to block the NY Grand Jury from getting Trump's tax returns, both personal and business today Feb 22, 2021. Announcement between 9:30 AM and 9:35 AM Eastern. On Twitter by 9:36 AM
Uranus exactly rose at 9:30.

Transiting Mars was within 1° of Trump's MC: It was, therefore, definitely a blow to him. Transiting Saturn is semi-square his Moon. Reinforcing the impact of the news, transiting Mercury was opposite his Pluto within 0°03'.

He had a Demi-SLR yesterday. I had thought it would be embarrassing and emotionally hard on him: Neptune rises in Palm Beach square his Moon on IC.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:34 pm

Feb 22, 2021, also approximate 9:30 AM Eastern The Supreme Court dismissed the case for defamation brought against Trump by Stephanie Clifford aka Stormy Daniels.

They did not dismiss the cases against him brought by Summer Zervos and E. Jean Carroll.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:50 am

Because it's a topic this morning, I thought I'd review Donald Trump's natal fixed stars viewed mundanely, just so people have examples.

By PV longitude, he has no planets within 1° of angles, but Regulus is 1°02' above Asc, probably close enough. (It's closer in Washington.) By paran we see that Vega was 0°23' from setting at his birth (quite an interesting comparison since, by PV longitude, it was 10° below the angle: Is it a fitting star for him?).

Key star parans to his planets (by the priorities I've given elsewhere) are:

MOON sets with Kaus Austraolis 0°16'.

SUN squares Regulus 0°45' (Asc-IC) and opposes Rasalhague 0°49' in RA (MC-IC).

MERCURY conjoins Sirius in RA (0°54') with Deneb setting square them. There are nine Mercury-star aspects overall.

VENUS has eight paran squares: I'm not prepared to sort through them all and make any sense of it, none is obviously more important at a glance.

MARS sets with Regulus 0°30'.

JUPITER sets with Spica 0°43'.

SATURN conjoins Pollux in RA 0°13' (while Algol and Menkar are simultaneously on IC).
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Apr 24, 2021 12:46 am

Trump is moving to Bedminster, NJ (where he has a resort) for the summer, according to a report from Salon. (Mar-A-Lago usually empties by Memorial Day because of rising heat for the season.) This, then, probably will be where his next SSR occurs.

The chart was already bad for Mar-A-Lago (where he retains permanent residency) and worse for NYC. His move to Bedminster is somehow tied into his trying to jump-start a 2024 presidential campaign.

For Bedminster, the main features of the the SSR are as follows. (The foreground aspects are all the exact Moon-Saturn-Uranus T-square on natal Pluto.)

t Moon on MC -7°09'
t Saturn on IC -5°53'
r Pluto on MC -4°19'
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t Uranus on WP-a +0°10'
t Mars on Z +0°20'


t Saturn-Uranus sq. 0°00'
t Moon-Saturn op. 0°20'
t Moon-Uranus sq. 0°20'

t Saturn op. r Pluto 1°34' mundo
t Uranus sq. r Pluto 2°01'
t Moon conj. r Pluto 2°21'


Several partile transits exist, including:
t Pluto op. r Venus 0°29'
t Neptune sq. r Sun 0°49'
t Neptune sq. r Moon 0°55'
-- t Neptune = r Su/Mo 0°03'
t Mercury conj. r Uranus 0°37'


He'd do far better to go to North Korea for his birthday.
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Re: When is the trial? Or: He has a BAD year coming up.

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue May 25, 2021 6:22 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 8:21 am
Donald Trump's 2021 SSR will occur June 14, 2021, 4:06 PM EDT. For all places on Earth, it has:

16°08' Can - r Pluto
18°05' Ari - s Uranus
18°05' Cap - s Saturn
18°25' Can - s Moon

Mars is the strongest chart factor all along the East Coast. ...

The strongest threat is in New York City - probably from the Southern District's investigation into his businesses. Also, the NYC EP is 18°10' Aries, with Uranus (from the Moon-Saturn-Uranus group at the top of this post) only 0°02' from WP.
A Grand Jury has been convened by the NYS Attorney General. It may be looking into Trump's taxes, or it may be looking into his businesses, or it may be looking into both. In addition to the civil case in NY, there is apparently also going to be a criminal case.

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Birthday location

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:50 am

Trump is still in Bedminster, right? We expect the SSR to be there?
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:34 am

We'll find out for sure after the party, but yeah, that's where he's supposed to be now. But he bops up and down the East Coast quite a lot.

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Re: Birthday location

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:05 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:50 am
Trump is still in Bedminster, right? We expect the SSR to be there?
Every article I found said he was in New Jersey. Bizarrely, not one of them said where in NJ, though surely he was in Bedminster where he likes to stay and owns significant property. Here's the SSR.

Don't miss: How close Mars is to the Zenith, how Uranus on WP-a anchors the precise Moon-Saturn-Uranus T-square, and that his natal Pluto is 16°03' Cancer. The Saturn-Uranus square is 0°00' orb. sun square Neptune is partile. Transiting Pluto is 0°29' from opposite his Venus. Transiting Neptune is partile square his Sun and Moon. Mercury is partile conjunct his Uranus (0°37').
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:32 am

Ebertin in COSI for the tones of a Direct Midpoint (T-Square) of Moon/Saturn = Uranus:
Impulsive release of inner tension, desire to free oneself from inhibitions. Nervous tension, sudden mental and emotional suffering, separation.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Danica » Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:38 am

Goodness, graciousness, I love everything about this chart! 😆
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Lance » Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:58 am

Wow! What an entirely appropriate chart.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Jun 15, 2021 8:05 am

Lance wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:58 am
Wow! What an entirely appropriate chart.
We can only hope.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:29 am

NY Daily news said: The ex-leader is blowing out the candles at his golf resort in Bedminster, New Jersey, where he is spending the summer.

People magazine said DJTJ posted a sing-a-long video from Bedminster that included his father and himself.

Melania said he hates his birthdays. I think this one more than most.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Sat Sep 11, 2021 5:23 am

Yesterday I received a phone call from a gambling client (high roller) asking my astrological opinion on Trump winning the 2024 Prez Election, if he runs for Prez. Bottom line: I told the client if he runs there is very good % he wins. Currently Trump is + 500 +700 to win 2024 Prez depending on the different Books offering the betting odds.
Why the good % Trump wins? For this analysis I go to Noel Tyl’s (RIP) book: “Solar Arcs, Astrology’s Most Successful Predictive System.” Noel clearly explains Solar Arcs of the Natal Angles time the most important developments in a life. On the day of the 2024 Election (Nov 5th), Trump just so happens to be receiving a major Solar Arc MC 15,21 Cancer partile conjunct his Natal Pluto 16,03 Cancer. Noel says about MC –Pluto:
Recognition and the ultimate power position are probable.
Noel also clearly teaches when a major Solar Arc Natal Angle is involved, a careful analysis of outer planet transits to the Natal Chart and Secondary Progressed Natal Moon contacts are required by the astrologer.
During 2024 Trump receives a partile Jupiter conjunct transit to his Natal MC; his Natal Uranus; his Natal Node, and right after the Nov election to his Natal Full Moon. These transits of Jupiter to Trump’s Natal are most fortunate, so using Noel’s system of Solar Arc predictions, Trump’s major Solar Arc MC to his Natal Pluto is forecasted to be a most fortunate life development.
Also t Uranus partile conjunct Trump’s Natal MC for this election cycle, a major outer planet transit. Ebertin’s + tones from COSI for this combo in light of the above Jupiter transits:
Principle: Power of assertion.
Psychological Correspondence: Pursuit of one’s objectives with the greatest energy, emotional excitability with tension or stress, power to successfully make one’s way in life, state of readiness for action, prudence and vision, originality, organizing ability.
Probable Manifestations: Ability to advance in one’s career or occupation in life, the good fortune to bring about fortunate changes, change in occupation, sudden rearrangement of one’s circumstances.
Trump, if running for 2024 Prez will assuredly win Rep’s Primary.
What about Noel’s sp Natal Moon on Nov 5th 2024? It just so happens Noel’s sp Natal Moon 15,31 Lib is partile 90 Noel’s Solar Arc MC and Natal Pluto, no mere coincidence, imo. Ebertin tones from COSI says about this combo:
Inner greatness, ability to exercise a great influence upon others…
There is also Secondary Progressed and Solar Arc types of Venus-Jupiter symbolism involved with Trump's charts in this election cycle with a possible Trump run for Prez, including a partile transiting Venus-Jupiter 180 falling closely on very important Trump Natal Chart Points on Nov 5th 2024.

The owners of the major News Media outlets love Trump because of the tremendous love/hate emotions Trump creates among a divided nation of voters clued to the narratives of news cycles. I told my client to look for possible bottoms in the major stocks of the News Media for a possible Trump run for Prez in 2024.

On Trump's 2024 SSR we need to check for his location for possible negative angular contacts which could negate the above analysis.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:15 am

That exact Uranus transit to his MC at election time is stunning - the conjunction is 0°13' as the polls close. (I don't see the Jupiter transit you mentioned: Jupiter is nearly a whole sign past his MC.) His progressed Moon is partile square natal Pluto - is this the sort of progressed Moon trigger of the MC-Pluto SA you were looking for?

It does seem, in an unqualified way, a tremendously important life-altering period for him.

His 2024 SSR looks boring. We don't have a location for it. Historically, he doesn't wander far from home for his birthday but, if he is campaigning he could be anywhere. If he is "home," odds are greatest "home" will be Palm Beach, but possibly NYC (or nearby New Jersey); for both of these locations, there are no acute angularities except one: In Palm Beach (Mar-a-Lago), natal Pluto squares SSR MC partile. While natal Pluto is the focus of his solar arcs, the SA interpretation isn't how we'd interpret a solar return that had ONLY natal Pluto angular, disconnected from everything. It's mostly an indication of being withdrawn, isolated, etc. SSR Moon is opposite Neptune 1°38' and square Venus 1°18' - 10' from the midpoint - which, while potentially a little giddy, isn't exactly a winning aspect.

The SSR eeks out ONE positive indication for him. If, by chance, he is in Manhattan on election night (not the most likely scenario given where his legal affairs are going), his SQ has transiting Jupiter exactly angular. However, for the same location, his SNQ has natal Neptune angular.

But that transiting Uranus to his MC is hard to ignore...
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Sun Sep 12, 2021 5:16 am

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(I don't see the Jupiter transit you mentioned: Jupiter is nearly a whole sign past his MC.)
I was not referring to t Jupiter to his MC. t Jupiter on election day 2024 is 24,58 Tau retrograde. Trump’s Natal Uranus is 23,54 Tau and Natal Node is 26,46 Tau. This offers a Natal Trump Ur/Node = partile conjunct t Jupiter. Ebertin from COSI says about this combo with its tones:
A great liking for social functions and entertainment, tendency to seek advantages with the help of other people. Sharing happy experiences in life with others.
Ebertin also footnotes Jupiter-Uranus combo’s as the “Thank You Lord” effect.

T Venus on election night 2024 is partile conjunct his Natal Full Moon! I think t Venus on election night 2020 was partile conjunct his Natal Saturn for a contrasting difference with t Venus for election night 2020 & 2024. I have always felt with major elections t Venus symbolizes the voting public with partying effects for the winning candidate and their voters. In order to see with our eyes where t Jupiter and t Venus is placed on Trump’s Natal on election night 2024, below is a link bi-wheel with Trump’s Natal inside wheel and transits outside wheel. With these transiting effects of Venus & Jupiter to Trump’s Natal Full Moon and Natal Uranus-Node on election night 2024, it would not surprise me if Trump wins with comfortable margins, which is what I told the high roller last Friday.

With my Oct 9 2021 SLR angular Venus-Node, I again find myself in an immediate environment with gamblers and they will want to know my astrological forecasts for things. Election 2024 will be one of the main topics from a possible gambling perspective.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Danica » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:25 pm

I think what is ahead of us in the upcoming few years is fully new (having Donald again, or a person akin to him, even as a candidate for a Public Service Office of high prominence, influence and responsibility - would be merely history repeating), without precedent, without historical examples to guide us.

Look at that sequence of Mundane charts for USA 2022 - 2023!
CapSolar 2023 is dormant, the preceding LibSolar 2022 has the Pluto-Venus under 1* angular, while the following AriSolar 2023 has the Moon-Pluto marking the chart;
it all starts with the Pluto-with-Sun themed CapSolar 2022, and ends with the partile-Pluto angular of LibSolar 2023, before the 2024 CapSolar with Jupiter under 1*, as if to say, after all that Pluto-array, "whew! It is a Grace to be Living, let us Celebrate!" :) :)

The LibSolar 2022 seems to be marking the focal critical quarter (for the two years period), with the Sun tightly involved with the partile Pl - Ve.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:29 pm

Yes, the single strongest indication of a Biden re-election is that the mundane charts for 2024 say that this is the first year people feel like things are back to normal and doing well. He could still lose, but those are pretty good indications! It's a "chicken in every pot and car in every garage" kind of year.
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Re: CapSolar 2024 USA

Post by Danica » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:52 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
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It's a "chicken in every pot and car in every garage" kind of year.
Ah, the image of: first year of UBI federally rolled out, practically in place; the chicken is lab-made, superbly nutritious, AND delicious! :D ....
( :ugeek: would explain that Capsolar's Moon with Neptune, and the presence of Venus with it all: everyone is catching up on their long-desired-dreams (and temptations :)) and the general tone is both confusion and high elation, certainly an Ideal-inspiration ... )
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:55 pm

Trump is almost certainly going to run, if only to drop out right before the primaries. Because there's a lot of money in running. Remember Newt Gingrich? Ran every election for years, and always dropped out right before the primaries. He didn't have to return any of the donations he got because he pulled out at the right time. There is a lot of money in running for Trump. He'll rake it in and find a way to excuse himself from the actual campaigning. In another four years, Donny Jr. will probably run.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:03 pm

What's fascinating - think about it! - is that right now we are laying the foundation of the way we will be doing astrology in 2024 which, in some ways, will be what we've done for years and, in other ways, will be so different from what we're now doing that today's path will seem foreign.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:04 am

Any wagers now on Trump winning the 2024 Prez puts the gambler in a beautiful hedge position with very high % of winning $ no matter who wins the 2024 Prez, all contingent upon Trump running again for Prez. Excellent observation JSAD about Donald Jr running! If Jr happened to win Trump's Solar Arc & Transit symbolism would still fit the event for a Jr win.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:48 pm

I just noticed that the 2025 inauguration chart has significant similarities to Trump's chart. In particular, Mars is most angular, and about the same distance off the angle; and Venus conjoins Saturn closely, in the immediate background. It's as if the event is echoing certain basic functions of Trump's character.

And then... God, I really didn't want to see it... Moon at the time the new term begins is 23°26' Virgo, only 0°02' from conjunct Trump's Jupiter. (Transiting Mercury squares both of them.)

His transits aren't perfect for the day, but, on balance, it looks like one of the best hours of his life. To the above, add Jupiter octile his Venus 24'; but, on the other hand, Mars precisely conjoins his Saturn (0°32'). If it's his "special day," this may simply reflect the animosity cast upon him for the day, but, in general, it's quite harsh. (There is a 0°00' Mars-Eris square in space!)

His January 11 Demi-SLR, while highlighting his luminaries in Washington, also has Saturn exactly rising, square them - see it in TMSA to get the full effect. His SQ has transiting Saturn exactly on Asc paran his luminaries.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:25 pm

Here is the less-than-fun January 11, 2025 Demi-SLR:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
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                           Transiting Planets                           
Mo 27Ta12'59" 04N59 +13°59'  81°18' 28N12   0°22' -22°54'  89°08' 100% F
Ve 13Aq43'08" 00S32 + 1°01' 340°37' 08S46 103°46' + 2°59' 356°56'  97% F
Sa 20Aq18'36" 01S57 + 0°05' 347°19' 07S33  98°37' - 1°22'   1°23'  99% F
Ne 02Pi23'05" 01S17 + 0°01' 358°12' 02S11  87°36' - 6°26'   6°26'  89% F
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                            Radical Planets                             
Mo 27Sc12'58" 00S02 +11°52' 261°37' 23S15 180°04' +27°51' 269°53' 100% F
Su 28Ta56'27" 00S00 + 0°57'  83°30' 23N18 358°07' -27°47'  93°35'  97% F
Ma 02Le47'18" 01N16 + 0°33' 150°30' 13N24 293°51' - 7°22' 171°58'  83% F
Ur 23Ta54'20" 00N03 + 0°04'  78°02' 23N02   3°48' -27°59'  82°53'  87% F
------------------------------------------------------------------------
tMo sq tVe 02°12'  91% M
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tSa sq rMo 01°30'  96% M                                                
tSa sq rSu 02°11'  91% M                                                
tNe sq rSu 02°52'  84% M                                                
rMo op rSu 01°43'  94%                                                  
rMa sq rUr 00°55'  98% M
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