Solar Fire - how to relocate your SSR to fit natal planets?

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Solar Fire - how to relocate your SSR to fit natal planets?

Post by Arena » Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:40 am

Hello all!
I just thought of what a wonderful year it was when my natal Venus-Jupiter came to the angles of the SSR a couple of years back. Oh my, oh my, what wonderful feelings of love and a wonderful time of awakening my creative spirit. :) How would you go about using solar fire globe option/astrocartography to figure this out?
I'd like to be able to experiment with relocations sometimes around my birthday in order to put this wonderful natal aspect on the SSR angles.

Now some of you might say that I should simply try relocating to a place where this natal aspect becomes angular - not necessarily in the SSR. Well, I'm not sure now that I really want to relocate permanently. I enjoy life in a new way and even taking holidays to travel does not have the same appeal as before, because it keeps me away from my studio. :D

I could apply for an artist residency in the future, which is a temporary relocation and I have access to a studio and can keep on painting. But I've become more picky on where I am interested in staying and I would probably only want to stay temporary. My chart shows the planetary directions of Ven-Jup at the most western tip of Brazil and Australia and I don't really feel like staying in those places. It also falls in the middle of Japan - which might be an interesting place to visit. :) Mundanely this aspects also goes through the same places, but Pluto also comes near the angles. Not sure If I should have Pluto in the picture. It is a difficult planet, although it is transformative and challenging. The mundane aspect with Jup on MC also goes close to the Azores islands in the middle of the Atlantic ocean. That might be a nice place to stay for a while. It does become a bit troublesome when you start to look at where your directed planetary lines are now. This would place Pluto angular on DSC in the Azores and I definitely do not want to risk losing my partner.

There are two places that stand out taking the directed lines into the equation and those are Japan with d. Sun on ASC, Venus on MC and Jup on IC when east of Tokyo. And then there is California (close) with d. Sun on MC and the Ven-Jup aspect near the angles. I want to check our composite chart as well to see what those places bring out - and both Japan and California have the composite Venus angular. Which brings my mind to another very interesting thought about composite charts. :idea: :?: I'll post it elsewhere.

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Re: Solar Fire - how to relocate your SSR to fit natal planets?

Post by SteveS » Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:52 am

Arena, this is a question best suited for Jim. He is on a road trip now.

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Re: Solar Fire - how to relocate your SSR to fit natal planets?

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:19 am

There isn't a way to do this in SF other than trial and error. It's a big gap in the program.

I've proposed a design for a location module for Mike's TMSA that would make this wonderfully simple: It closes the SF gap by including natal planets (precessed to the epoch of the return chart) plus including the right ascension contacts to EP-WP. I estimate that one could take the entire world and find the spot you wanted in about three minutes, narrowing to a precise ideal long/lat. It would be revolutionary. However, I have no idea when he might be able to do this.

My best trick with a tough case using SF is to put the SSR around the natal on a 90 degree dial. This lets me instantly see the close SSR aspects and transits to the natal, and see which planets are "in the running" for angularity. I can see the angles for the original location, then have a rough idea how far I have to move the angles forward or backward to reach the desired place. After that, it's trial and error.

As I'm bouncing through multiple trial locations, TMSA is invaluable because I only have to change the location and clock two buttons (Find and Calculate) to get a fully calculated new return for that spot including all natal and transiting angularities and the foreground aspects, including mundane aspects in a second.
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