Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

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Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Lance » Mon May 20, 2019 7:48 am

Okay, this is my first attempt at a SSR with all the transits included. Mostly I've just been looking at the angles until now. Corrections and tips would be *greatly* appreciated. I want to learn to do this correctly.

I've listed the angels for both Beaumont, TX, and a possible relocation to Phoenix, AZ. Honestly, I like the Venus stuff in Beaumont -- unless you look at the transiting Neptune trine and Saturn sextiles to both in and Venus. For me, that's the opposite of what I want aspecting my Venus on an angle. They just bug me. I don't know how much weight to give them.

Phoenix looks interesting in a different way. I can read the descriptions in the books, but I'd really like some experienced opinions. It sounds intense but perhaps beneficial in a way that I need. Thank you!

Lance: Natal
10/20/1972
Beaumont, TX
7:11am

SSR angles for Beaumont, then Phoenix, then transits that apply to both.

Beaumont, TX
Mercury 2°30’ conj. EP
Venus 5°14’ conj. Asc. (in mundo)
Uranus 6°10’ conj. Dsc. (in mundo)

Phoenix, AZ
Moon 1°16’ conj. MC (in mundo)
Sun 3°04’ conj. Asc. (in mundo)
Pluto 6°27’ conj. IC (in mundo)
Uranus 9°53’ conj. Dsc. (in mundo)


Transit to Transit
Sun square Moon 0°25’
Jupiter sesqui. Uranus 1°32’

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Here's the thing that's really bothering me. If I look at trines and sextiles, there is this cluster, with Venus on the Asc for Beaumont, TX.

Venus trine Neptune 0°20’
Venus sext. Saturn 1°10’
Saturn sext. Neptune 1°29’

Thoughts would be appreciated.
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Transits to Natal
t. Venus sesqui. r. Moon 1°39’
t. Venus conj. r. Mercury 1°01’
t. Venus semi. r. Jupiter 2°45’
t. Venus semi. r. Pluto 2°32’
t. Mars conj. r. Mars 2°05’
t. Jupiter opp. r. Saturn 0°28’
t. Saturn squ. r. Mars 1°30’
t. Uranus sesqui. r. Venus 1°37’
t. Uranus semi. r. Saturn 1°04’
t. Neptune opp. r. Venus 1°59’
t. Pluto squ. r. Uranus 0°50’
t. Pluto semi. r. Neptune 1°26’

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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon May 20, 2019 7:58 am

Ignore the trines and sextiles.

Your current SSR for Phoenix has Uranus opposite your Sun along the meridian plus Venus square Asc.
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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Lance » Mon May 20, 2019 8:24 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Mon May 20, 2019 7:58 am
Ignore the trines and sextiles.
Okay. Nervous as hell about it, but okay.
Your current SSR for Phoenix has Uranus opposite your Sun along the meridian plus Venus square Asc.
Sure wish I'd been there instead of here. But I never would have been able to relocate for it last year under my previous circumstances anyway.

Thank you, sir.

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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Lance » Mon May 20, 2019 9:37 am

To any and all...

The more I look at the Beaumont-located SSR, the more I am happy with it. I need a new social life. I need a new love life, and these things are incredibly important to me. If the trines and sextiles aren't going to whack me, I'm all for it. :D

But this Phoenix-located SSR.... The emotional reactivity of the angular Moon is not really what I'm looking for at all. I'm tired of all that right now already with all that's going on. But the Sun moon square that would be on the angles.. There's this lure of meeting the right people and coming into prominence in a way that's been absent from my life for a good while. But I do remember when I stepped down out of the limelight and what a relief that was. And lots of public attention might aggravate my nerves, so to speak. But it also might supply what I need in terms of a career boost - if I can make the jump to that idea based on these stars.

That's what it feels like.... Love or Career... Always love or career.... But I'm probably projecting a lot.

Anybody have any thoughts about putting the Moon-Sun square on the angles with Pluto and barely a touch of Uranus? [hehehe "barely a touch of Uranus" 8-) ]

All thoughts welcome.

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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon May 20, 2019 9:46 am

Regardless of whether it's on the angles, the Moon-Sun square will be very important. It will show a time of significant life-shift and probably relationship changes (probably formation).

Having it on the angles doesn't enhance or retard either of these, though two luminaries on an angle might make you much the center of attention.
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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Veronica » Tue May 21, 2019 3:27 am

Love or career.....

Let Your Life Speak

From my expierence
Without Love everything else is just a grind.

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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Lance » Tue May 21, 2019 6:10 am

Veronica wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 3:27 am
Love or career.....

Let Your Life Speak

From my experience
Without Love everything else is just a grind.
sigh... It's not so easy. *One* of the main factors in both my two main breakups has been an inability on the part of the partner to support my commitments to efforts that don't produce a lot of money.

But I *am* a Libra, and relationships are extremely important to me, so...

Thank you.

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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Lance » Tue May 21, 2019 6:55 am

So... What weight do aspects to the luminaries hold in a return chart relative to planets being angular? About the same?

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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 21, 2019 7:20 am

Lance wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 6:55 am
So... What weight do aspects to the luminaries hold in a return chart relative to planets being angular? About the same?
About the same. Different (discernible from the specific interpretations) but about the same.

The rule of thumb from Fagan that I pretty much standardized is that "angles plus Moon aspects" in a Solar Return are the things to watch.
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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Veronica » Tue May 21, 2019 9:00 am

Lance wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 6:10 am
Veronica wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 3:27 am
Love or career.....

Let Your Life Speak

From my experience
Without Love everything else is just a grind.
sigh... It's not so easy. *One* of the main factors in both my two main breakups has been an inability on the part of the partner to support my commitments to efforts that don't produce a lot of money.

But I *am* a Libra, and relationships are extremely important to me, so...

Thank you.
My chart says that relationships are my bread n butter....

And I used to think that meant "the others" but I know the most important relationship is between me and me.

That was a plug btw for you to reread LYLS

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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 21, 2019 10:57 am

Which I think is a great idea!
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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Lance » Tue May 21, 2019 1:41 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 10:57 am
Which I think is a great idea!
It's probably time since things have opened up here recently. It's at her house though. I'll get it in a couple of weeks.

Right now, I'm planning my trips for future SSRs. :D

2020 Anchorage, AK
2021 Meridian, MS
2022 ??? I have a Sun-Venus conjunction squared by Pluto. Seems it could go either way? My instinct is to emphasize the Sun-Venus conjunction... Anyway... I have time to figure it out.

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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Veronica » Wed May 22, 2019 2:37 am

Lance wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 1:41 pm
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Tue May 21, 2019 10:57 am
Which I think is a great idea!
It's probably time since things have opened up here recently. It's at her house though. I'll get it in a couple of weeks.

Right now, I'm planning my trips for future SSRs. :D

2020 Anchorage, AK
2021 Meridian, MS
2022 ??? I have a Sun-Venus conjunction squared by Pluto. Seems it could go either way? My instinct is to emphasize the Sun-Venus conjunction... Anyway... I have time to figure it out.
Just saying......

Im a single mom on a tight budget.....
But I invest in online resources like Scribd and Amazon Prime as a way to feed my need for sources of material that will help my growth.
I actually own several copies of some of my favorite works so I can pass them on.

Online book ordering is cheap and easy.
Maybe your ex will stumble across the other copy and enrich herself and your daughters life.....ya never know.

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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Lance » Wed May 22, 2019 7:27 am

Well, I mean, I know my things.

My whole life, in one form or another, I've been teaching and/or counseling. Even right now, I'm an Academic Advisor, and I do a little of both with college students. The teaching makes me happiest when it's about inner subjects like spirituality, psychology, or astrology, so there's still the counseling theme. And in the counseling, there's always an element of teaching a person about themselves, or life, or astrology.. It's really one thing combined -- Instruction in how best to deal with life - so counseling/teaching.

Being some sort of astrological counselor/advisor makes the most sense to me, and I'm trying to set that up. I feel inadequate compared to all the freaking masters running around this place. It makes me feel like I need to wait forever before I hang my shingle, but it's really about time to poop or get off the pot. When I tie in all the counseling and religious education I've had over the years, I think it supplements some of my strictly astrological weaknesses, but I'm still learning everyday - mainly by asking dumb questions and getting corrected. lol.

So, yeah. This is what I want to do. There's just the question of how stupid do I look to you guys by saying that I feel like I'm ready - because you guys know how much of a noob I still am. But.. I don't know. I gotta get started - otherwise, I'm not doing my thing because I'm waiting for other people's approval, and that's what I need to quit waiting for.

Make sense?

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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed May 22, 2019 7:43 am

Yeah, quit waiting for approval :)

The first word of the law is "do."

And no, it doesn't sound foolish (and you don't sound foolish). Every step we take is education: I wrote for two decades for American Astrology, Spica, and other publications, and there isn't a single article I wrote (not one!) that doesn't make me think, "Gosh, if anyone ever rereads this, I hope they realize I was just a kid." Or even when I collated some of the best public work of my life into Pearls of Wisdom a decade or so after it was written, I rewrote and supplemented everything - it was all good but none of it was quite good enough for me. (Even in Interpreting Solar Returns I made errors like grossly over-valuing the Vertex, for example.)

You're surely ready - clearly ready to help some folks, who in turn will be ready to make you stronger and more able by expecting it of you. And five years from now you'll think (as we all have thought about ourselves) that what you did in the past was naive or incomplete or off the mark or some such thing. Oh, well, Earth's leading scientists used to believe in seven hard shells in the heavens that had stars and planets stuck on them. That's how science grows: Start with what you've got and challenge it constantly by putting it on the line and testing it constantly.

It would be cool if Danica would share a recent, wonderful "jump right in" story, but it's her story to tell (or not),
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Re: Lance's 2019 SSR - And Possible Relocation

Post by Danica » Wed May 22, 2019 10:08 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Wed May 22, 2019 7:43 am

You're surely ready - clearly ready to help some folks, who in turn will be ready to make you stronger and more able by expecting it of you. And five years from now you'll think (as we all have thought about ourselves) that what you did in the past was naive or incomplete or off the mark or some such thing. Oh, well, Earth's leading scientists used to believe in seven hard shells in the heavens that had stars and planets stuck on them. That's how science grows: Start with what you've got and challenge it constantly by putting it on the line and testing it constantly.
I could not agree more!
It would be cool if Danica would share a recent, wonderful "jump right in" story, but it's her story to tell (or not).
Lance and I have been talking on the phone, he's in loop with all the details :D :geek:
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