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Re: My SLR

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:44 am

Take a mental health day Thursday. Take off as soon as you get off work Wednesday, get far enough away to make it go away, then be back Friday in time for work.

I've had some really terrible looking lunars and just got a cold or a flat tire or lost my wallet. What do your transits and progressions look like during the lunar?

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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:01 am

Jim wrote:
I'm not so crazy about that partile transit of Pluto to my Mars exactly on angles (squared by Mars), especially at the same time Saturn squares my Sun. It's not as if Pluto to Mars has been creeping up and teasing... it's just suddenly there out of the blue and exactly angular.
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I clearly understand Jim; you and I both have this same t. Pluto 180 our r. Mars, and we both don’t want it to appear on the angles of our return charts but right away we see it on your Feb 7 SLR angle. Definitely a lunar to be very conscious of within your immediate environment. Are you expecting to receive any major news around Feb 7th? Normally these type lunars will manifest very close to the date of the SLR. Is there any ‘ possible outstanding incident' on your calendar schedule around Feb 7? In the past I have had Mars-Pluto symbolism manifest as major mechanical problems with my vehicles. This past Jan 30, I had a Mars-Pluto SLR and I ate something which violently upset my digested system putting me seated in the bathroom for two hours and throwing-up violently.

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I've had some really terrible looking lunars and just got a cold or a flat tire or lost my wallet. What do your transits and progressions look like during the lunar?
I agree with JSAD here. It could be a violent cold or flu with the Sun-Saturn aspect, or again car/transportation problems. Lunars have a-lot to do with our health. If you feel a cold coming on—take over the counter Sambucol which can prevent a bad cold for setting in or shorten the life of a bad cold. Under no circumstances allow yourself to be removed from your ordinary everyday safe living environment into an unsafe environment. It could be only a violent verbal attack from someone with stunning/shocking results. Your Natal 'Thank You Lord' partile Jupiter/Uranus cnj is foreground. :)

Keep us informed with the manifestation and be safe as possible.

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:11 am

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:44 am
Take a mental health day Thursday. Take off as soon as you get off work Wednesday, get far enough away to make it go away, then be back Friday in time for work.

I've had some really terrible looking lunars and just got a cold or a flat tire or lost my wallet. What do your transits and progressions look like during the lunar?
Yes, there is always the aphorism to remember, "Things are rarely as bad and rarely as good as they look on paper." Thanks.

I can't realistically take the time off. I'm off Monday since we're on the road today and getting in late, then have to leave just after lunch Tuesday for an optometrist appointment. Realistically, I should show up the rest of the week. And I'm surely better off here than if I started driving east, because I'd run into Mars square Ascendant and Saturn square MC (plus some Uranus) through Arizona and Nevada, then Pluto (on my Mars) square MC through New Mexico and Colorado. I'd have to go far enough east that I might as well come have supper with you :)
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:25 am

Steve, thanks for the unpleasant anecdotes. :) Yes, the one thing we still don't know how to get out of these charts is the scale of an event (although the partile contacts tend to reflet that as much as anything). I wouldn't take it too seriusly if it were just Puto to Mars, but having it come along with Saturn square Sun starts to look like a pile-up. I've navigated Saturn-to-Sun to my advantage at many life stages, and I'm just not sure I have the strength to do it gracefully now.

I've ruled out obvious major health problems. I turned a weakening heart around to a healthy heart (and with no heart attack damage, no artery blockage, etc.). With the Mars-Mars-Pluto symbolism, it crossed my mind that something colon-invasive could hit: Last September I had my PSA up for the first time and it seemed to still be increasing slightly. This led to the doctor doing a couple of non-invasive tests (remember that two-hour MRI I mentioned?) which came back negative, and then the PSA started going down. If it had kept going up, the next step would have been a somewhat invasive biopsy, but that's nothing worrisome occurring. I have a routine colonoscopy coming up (under full general anesthesia) in March, but by then this SLR and the immediate transits are gone. (In fact, the SLR a day or two before that has Venus-Jupiter on the angles.)

So, blood pressure is fine, heart function is fine, no nether-region issues, no other organ concerns, no pulmonary concerns. That leaves a much narrower (and less likely) range of serious health .things We'll see what comes.

The symbolism also suggests I have to be especially scrupulous about not excessively bending rules at work, not jaywalking, and that sort of stuff. "Blame lowering the boom, paying for transgressions" is common with this symbolism. (Donald Trump has something similar but different coming up in a month - a Mars square to natal Pluto on SLR angles - that I interpreted as "a hammer falls.")

Thanks for the support, guys. (And thanks for the examples of your personal kinds of "private explosions," Steve :) )
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Re: My SLR

Post by Danica » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:47 pm

Your upcoming Ennies:

The one starting 2/6 supports in full the SLR picture:
t Mars sq AC 19'
t Pl conj DC 1*50'
t Sa conj AC 7*26'

r Ma conj AC 2*01'
r Ju conj DC 3*16'
r Ur conj DC 3*21'
r Me conj MC 4*02'
r Sa conj MC 4*31'

and the next one starts 2/16, with t Ju on AC, and tMoon-tVenus opposition squaring MC-IC axis.

So this gives window of time from 2/6 to 2/16 for the Pluto-Mars stuff to be expressed.
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:52 pm

Thanks :)
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Re: My SLR

Post by Danica » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:18 pm

Looking at the SLR itself, I think that the presence of your r Ju-Ur in the mix colors the whole thing with a highly positive tone.
When we look at clusters, it's a combo of: t Pluto in tandem w t Mars bringing to the fore your natal Ma-Ju-Ur-Ne (as a whole, with r Ma being emphasized in expression in this particular instance, due to angularity orbs, but the whole cluster is nevertheless active).
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:00 pm

Danica wrote:
Sun Feb 03, 2019 1:47 pm
Your upcoming Ennies:

The one starting 2/6 supports in full the SLR picture:
To round this out with a few more details for the exact location of home:

t Mars sq. Asc -0°24'
t Pluto on Asc +1°46'
r Neptune sq. Asc -1°55'
r Mars on Asc -2°06'
r Jupiter on Dsc -3°20'
r Uranus on Dsc -3°35'
r Mercury on MC +3°56'
r Saturn on MC +4°31'
t Saturn on Asc +7°21'

r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°05' in mundo
r Mercury-Saturn conj. 0°35' in mundo
t Mars sq. r Mars 0°44'
r Mars-Jupiter op. 1°14' in mundo
r Mars-Uranus op. 1°19' in mundo
r Uranus-Neptune sq. 2°00'
t Pluto conj. r Mars 2°07'
t Pluto sq. r Mercury 2°10' in mundo
r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 2°16'
r Mercury-Saturn conj. 2°24'
r Mars-Neptune sq. 2°25'
t Mars op. r Neptune 2°40'
t Pluto sq. r Saturn 2°45' in mundo
t Saturn sq. r Saturn 2°50' in mundo
t Mars-Pluto sq. 2°51'
t Saturn sq. r Mercury 3°25' in mundo
t Mars sq. r Uranus 3°40'
t Mars sq. r Jupiter 3°57'
t Pluto sq. r Neptune 4°32'

t Uranus sq. r Jupiter 0°23'
t Uranus sq. r Uranus 0°40'


Or, stripping it to just the closest factors:

t Mars sq. Asc -0°24'
t Pluto on Asc +1°46'
r Neptune sq. Asc -1°55'
r Mars on Asc -2°06'

r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°05' in mundo
r Mercury-Saturn conj. 0°35' in mundo
t Mars sq. r Mars 0°44'

r Mars-Jupiter op. 1°14' in mundo
r Mars-Uranus op. 1°19' in mundo
r Uranus-Neptune sq. 2°00'
t Pluto conj. r Mars 2°07'
t Pluto sq. r Mercury 2°10' in mundo
r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 2°16'
r Mercury-Saturn conj. 2°24'
r Mars-Neptune sq. 2°25'
t Mars op. r Neptune 2°40'
t Pluto sq. r Saturn 2°45' in mundo
t Saturn sq. r Saturn 2°50' in mundo
t Mars-Pluto sq. 2°51'
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Mon Feb 04, 2019 5:15 am

Jim, there is one other Mars-Pluto factor I forgot to mention I have correlated with my life and its time cycles, and that is time periods for excessive work of all types, with a lean toward physical work. Ebertin offers ‘tones’ for Mars-Pluto:
Psychological Correspondence: The ability to demonstrate extraordinary force and vigor, great self-confidence, the obsession to work without any break, great ambition.
Probable Manifestation: + The attainment of success through excessive effort.


Maybe this SLR manifests in your work environment--exhausting you with extra work.

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:18 pm

Tomorrow, there is a most unusual alignment. I wasn't going to say anything in advance about tomorrow, until I saw this line-up; then it was just too interesting not to mention.

First, the known event: I have a meeting scheduled tomorrow, purpose unknown, at 11:00 AM. When I got the meeting invitation (on the eve of the current, worrisome lunar return), my first gut impression is that it meant trouble. That idea is either (1) astrologically reasonable, (2) good intuition, or (3) an overly-anxious response of the new SLR and Ennead. The person scheduling the meeting assured me there is nothing to worry about, although they are keeping details confidential until the meeting, which (under current circumstance) feeds my anxiety about it.

Anyway... of course I set up a chart for 11:00 AM and that's when I noticed the SWARM of Moons onto my Saturn. Because it's my Saturn, it doesn't make me feel any better about the meeting, but it's astrologically something I've never seen before. Notice:

14°02' Lib - s Moon
14°11' Ari - t Moon
14°47' Can - Q1 p Moon (thrown in for Steve :) )
14°54' Ari - CapQ Moon
14°57' Lib - r Saturn
14°58' Cap - converse t Moon

I don't think I missed any. It's... interesting.
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:21 am

Jim wrote:
It's... interesting.
Indeed Jim. Let us know the outcome of the meeting. With all those Moon-Saturn hits my only advice is Ebertin's "Principle" for Moon-Saturn.
Self Control.

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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:07 pm

Are you at liberty to discuss the astrological psychological effects (if any) about your meeting this morning?

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:17 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:18 pm
14°02' Lib - s Moon
14°11' Ari - t Moon
14°47' Can - Q1 p Moon (thrown in for Steve :) )
14°54' Ari - CapQ Moon
14°57' Lib - r Saturn
14°58' Cap - converse t Moon
I think all of these simultaneous hits are a bit of an overkill for what happened this morning, though there was a bit of sadness involved.

First off, I'm fine - no concern at all - no "negative event" at all except in the one sense I'll say in a minute.

The meeting was to let me know that a member of my team is leaving in a few weeks. Of the five or six partners I've had in this job the last dozen years, we've been the best fit, the best team, and have become good friends. He's transferring to our downtown LA office because he gets to swap his two-hour each direction daily driving commute for 45 minutes on a train. I'm happy for him but, gosh, gonna miss him.

On the other hand, he's swapping with someone from downtown that I've known for years who is one of the nicest people I know, learns very fast, etc. He just transferred into our department and is on an early learning-curve, so I'll be responsible for training him on several things. He'll hardly be unpleasant to have around and he's as conscientious as they come.

It's like when Michael Moriarty was replaced by Sam Watterson early in Law & Order's run: I wanted to be raging and unhappy, but damn - they replaced him with Sam Watterson. Not the same but, damn, at the time one of my favorite dramatic TV actors and he took the wind entirely out of my rageful disappointment.

So it goes.
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:22 pm

Thanks Jim, I was a little concerned as I know you were before the meeting---been there done that many times in my life looking at a potential nasty SLR.

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