JAE SLRs 2020

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SLR vs. Demi-SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:07 pm

Though having roughly the same planets and aspects. the current SLR and upcoming Demi-SLR differ in their emphases. Here are the very closest factors in each for contrast. (Interestingly, the foreground planets are identical. The aspects are identical except for two that slip into the mix.)

SLR
r Mars sq. MC -1°38'
t Pluto sq. MC -1°34'
t Jupiter sq. MC -0°31'
----------------------------
t Sun on EP +0°18'


t Pluto conj. r Mars 0°07'
r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
t Jupiter-Pluto conj. 0°40' in mundo
t Saturn op. r Jupiter 0°43' in mundo
r Sun-Uranus sq. 0°52' in mundo

Demi-SLR
t Jupiter on WP +0°14'
r Mars sq. MC +0°55'

t Pluto sq. MC +1°20'
t Sun on Asc +2°12'

-- t Pluto conj. r Mars 0°05'
-- t Mars sq. r Mars 0°09' in mundo
-- r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
-- r Sun-Uranus sq. 0°52' in mundo

-- t Saturn op. r Jupiter 0°46'
-- t Saturn sq. r Sun 0°57' in mundo
-- t Jupiter-Pluto conj. 1°03'
-- t Saturn op. r Uranus 1°03'
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Re: SLR 7/10/20

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Aug 01, 2020 2:48 pm

I'm experimenting with a different way of displaying these: a 90° sort of the mundoscope placements of all natal and SLR planets (starting from mid-quadrant), which I'll follow with one in longitude. These will disclose at a glance all angularities, foreground aspects, and other partile aspects. It may, however, turn out to be too damn much work. - Anyway, I'll do one.

[STILL WORKING ON IT]

15°18' (11) t Venus
24°59' (8) t Neptune
26°12' (8) r Moon
27°19' (8) t Moon
7°32' (12) t Mercury
14°55' (9) t Mars
16°56' (12) t Sun
|| 20°26' (6) r Mars
|| 20°35' (6) t Jupiter
|| 21°15' (6) t Pluto
|| 24°59' (3) r Sun
|| 25°51' (12) r Uranus
|| 26°17' (12) r Jupiter
|| 27°00' (6) t Saturn
0°00' ----------- ANGLES -----------

4°51' (4) r Neptune

| 17°38' (10) t Uranus
| 17°51' (4) r Mercury
| 18°18' (4) r Saturn
24°51' (1) r Pluto
29°13' (4) r Venus

10°36' Gem t Mercury
12°18' Pis t Mars
22°28' Vir r Sun
23°44' Gem t Sun (0°18' from EP)
24°01' Gem SLR Eastpoint

27°17' Pis SLR Midheaven
27°48' Sag t Jupiter

| 28°51' Sag t Pluto
| 28°55' Sag r Mars
1°20' Lib r Neptune
| 3°20' Can r Uranus
| 3°37' Can r Jupiter
| 4°23' Cap t Saturn
7°18' Can SLR Ascendant

| 14°57' Lib r Saturn
| 15°09' Ari t Uranus
17°21' Lib r Mercury
1°53' Sco r Venus
2°06' Leo r Pluto
14°19' Tau t Venus
25°51' Aqu t Neptune
27°24' Aqu t/r Moon

It's a thought... and it's strange-looking. Any reactions on its usability compared to my usual display method?
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Re: JAE SLRs 2020

Post by Danica » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:26 pm

The usual display looks better to me.
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Re: JAE SLRs 2020

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:49 pm

Danica wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 3:26 pm
The usual display looks better to me.
Thanks. That's my first impression, too, but I had to experiment.

The real issue is that we can't create a chart display in SF from positions we input. I'd love to have a wheel that shows transiting mundoscope positions in one wheel and natal (precessed) mundoscope positions in the other, but that's not possible - so we lack the visual.

I was trying to create a visual.
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SLR 8/6/2020

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:10 pm

My next SLR occurs Thursday, August 6, at 2:04 PM. I expect to be at home. Here is the breakdown. This one is simple, a single aspect.

Marion's concurrent Demi-SLR has transiting Venus setting and natal Jupiter on IC. She's approaching a progressed Moon-Jupiter opposition in October.

t Moon on IC -7°18'
t Neptune on IC -3°39'
r Moon on IC -3°18'
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r Venus on Asc +5°49'

-- t Neptune conj. r Moon 0°21' in mundo

Other Non-foreground
t Mars-Jupiter sq. 0°06' in mundo
t Saturn sq. r Neptune 0°37' in mundo
t Uranus op. r Saturn 0°42'
t Pluto conj. r Mars 0°44'
t Saturn op. r Jupiter 0°56' in mundo
t Saturn op. r Uranus 0°54' in mundo
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Demi-SLR 8/20/20

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Aug 20, 2020 8:52 am

My SLR, simple as it is, has been quite on target. I'd rather not give details since it includes other people's secrets (I suppose that's transiting, rather than natal Neptune at play). The new Demi-SLR, which occurs this afternoon at 12:58 PM, is mostly a weaker version of the same thing so I imagine the trends will continue. - Separate from the lunar returns, in the next few days the the Mars-Saturn square occurs exactly on my Neptune and perhaps will dominate most of the next week (probably felt unusually strongly because of Moon and Neptune being foreground). - Jupiter concurrently transits my Sun.

r Moon on IC -6°30'
t Neptune on IC -6°16'
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t Mercury sq. Asc +1°28'
r Venus on Asc +3°34'

-- t Neptune conj. r Moon 0°14' mundo
-- t Mercury sq. r Venus 4°41'

Non-foreground partile
t Saturn sq. r Neptune 0°10'
-- t Mars op. r Neptune 0°59'
t Mars-Jupiter sq. 0°35' mundo
t Saturn op. r Mars 0°37' mundo
t Uranus op. r Saturn 0°43'
t Jupiter sq. r Sun 0°46'
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SLR 9/2/20

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:27 pm

The SLR changes direction. This one is primarily dominated by Venus, surely in anticipation of the vacation we are taking to Sedona this weekend. BTW, if I'd picked a place for my last SSR outside my immediate area, I couldn't have done better than Sedona where transiting Venus is on WP and natal Jupiter-Uranus are a few minutes from IC.

But this thread is about my new SLR that occurs September 2, 2020, at 10:21 PM PDT, so I'll likely be feeling it tonight. It's calculated for here at home.

r Venus on Dsc +0°02'
r Saturn on Dsc +4°20'
t Uranus on Asc +5°22
r Jupiter on IC +6°20'
r Uranus on IC +6°44'
r Mercury on Dsc +7°17''
t Mars on Asc +9°50'
t Venus on IC +10°00'


-- t Venus-Mars sq. 0°10' mundo
-- r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
-- t Mars sq. r Uranus 0°32'
-- r Mercury-Uranus sq. 0°33' mundo
-- t Uranus op. r Saturn 0°35'
-- t Mars sq. r Jupiter 0°49'
-- r Mercury-Jupiter sq. 0°57' mundo
-- t Uranus sq. r Jupiter 0°58' mundo

-- t Uranus sq. r Uranus 1°22' mundo
-- t Uranus op. r Mercury 1°50'
-- t Venus conj. r Uranus 1°41'
-- t Venus conj. r Jupiter 1°58'
-- r Jupiter-Saturn sq. 2°00' mundo
-- r Mercury-Saturn conj. 2°24'

-- t Mars op. r Mercury 2°33' mundo
-- r Saturn-Uranus sq. 2°44' mundo

Other partile
t Jupiter sq. r Sun 0°04'
t Venus sq. r Neptune 0°18'
t Saturn sq. r Neptune 0°29'
t Venus-Saturn op. 0°47'
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Re: JAE SLRs 2020

Post by Arena » Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:44 am

Hope you guys had or are still having a great time in Sedona!
That partile/almost exact Venus must be lovely :)

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Demi-SLR 9/16/20

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:41 pm

The SLR has been primarily our week away. There were many complexities to the story of the trip, and these fit the fine points of the supportive aspects, but it's fair enough to say the angular natal Venus was the center piece.

My Demi-SLR September 16, 2020, 11:53 PM PDT is a rare return chart: It has no angular planets (either natal or transiting) and therefore no foreground aspects. By the most common historic standards, there is nothing at all to read in the chart.

It does have a new Moon, just over 2° wide), which probably will be felt as a cycle change; and it has numerous non-foreground partile aspects that likely will be the primary strong voices of the chart. Here are the aspects:

0°03' t Jupiter sq. r Sun
-- 0°08' t Mercury-Jupiter sq. (mundo)
-- 0°16' t Mercury conj. r Sun
-- 1°00' t Moon-Jupiter sq. (mundo)
0°08' t Pluto conj. r Mars (mundo)
0°14' t Venus sq. r Mercury
0°16' t Uranus op. r Saturn (mundo)
0°37' t Mars sq. r Uranus
-- 0°54' t Mars sq. r Jupiter
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Re: Demi-SLR 9/16/20

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:51 am

The Demi-SLR hasn't been overly active except in the sense that it seems to have blanketed the SLR. The full SLR was very descriptive of the vacation that marked the first half of the month, but none of that character (i.e., nothing unusually strong or out of the way that resembles the chart) has marked the last half of the month (we even cancelled a semi-planned two-day get-away a couple of times for various practical reasons). So I consider the SLR had a blanket thrown over it in the last half of the month.

The non-foreground partile aspects were descriptive enough. With Mercury-Jupiter so exactly aspecting each other and natal Sun, there has been a sort of protection and at least two successful opportunities to get praise at work. I might be finally feeling some of Pluto's transit to Mars - which, in this case, I relate to that new medicine I've been taking for a month and keep thinking I should stop - which has the new symptoms that I wake each morning feeling physically beat-up (as if I've been pounded on) - it feels not too different from dehydration effects except I've been putting much water through my system. This will pass, I'm sure, either on its own or because I decide to stop the medication.

After at least three years of putting it off, I dove into acquiring a new technical skill over the last few days - something that may stretch through the next few weeks, because it's a big subject - that I think might be more representative of Uranus' opposition to my Mercury (which, however, will be much stronger next year; but I have a very strong Mercury-Uranus opposition in this year's SSR, which must just be catching that up here in its last days).
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SLR 9/30/20

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:54 am

My new Sidereal Lunar Return will occur next Wednesday, September 30, at 4:42 AM PDT (here at my home, presumably). In terms of angularity, it is every bit as boring as the last Demi-SLR with nothing at all foreground except transiting Neptune - and that, barely so. (Therefore, there are no foreground aspects.)

Saturn is back in orb of square my Neptune. Transiting Jupiter is still partile square my Sun. Etc.

The chart does have Marion's Sun, Moon, and Pluto highlighted on the angles, but I've never found that one person's planets on another's solunars angles means anything. Nonetheless, I mention it just in case experience contradicts that observation this time.

t Neptune on Dsc -8°18'

Other partile
t Uranus op. r Saturn 0°05'
t Venus conj. r Pluto 0°06'
-- t Venus sq. r Venus 0°20'
-- t Venus sq. L MC 0°35'
t Mars-Saturn sq. 0°09'
t Jupiter sq. r Sun 0°25'
t Saturn sq. r Neptune 0°33' mundo
t Pluto conj. r Mars 0°57' mundo
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Re: Demi-SLR 7/24/2020

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:05 pm

i suppose this lunar has been descriptive enough. Other than things that can be traced directly to the new SSR (lots of delays, blocks, Mercury has - the latest being that one of my main computers got a corrupted security file and I am in the middle of reimaging it and getting everything working again), the main feature of the last two weeks has been the need for endurance in demanding, not-letting-up situations and corresponding energy drains, but overall not bad.
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Demi-SLR 10/14/2020

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:09 pm

My new Demi-SLR occurs tomorrow morning and is probably already in force. It's pretty simple and, at its best, signifies the birthday-themed exotic wine tasting this weekend (delayed from last Sunday). At worst, t is probably a recurrence of frailty, vulnerability, and fog, but in a more pleasant sense,

t Moon on MC -3°14'
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r Moon on IC +1°12'
t Neptune on IC +2°22'

t Venus on MC +7°12'
r Venus on Asc +8°57'


-- t Neptune conj. r Moon 1°10' mundo
-- t Venus sq. r Venus 1°45' in mundo

Other Partile
t Saturn conj. r Mars 25' mundo
t Sun-Jupiter sq. 0°29' mundo
t Mars-Jupiter sq. 0°35' mundo
t Uranus op. r Saturn 0°23' mundo
t Sun-Pluto sq. 0°41'
t Mercury conj. r Mercury 0°44'
t Saturn sq. r Neptune 0°50'
t Sun-Mars op. 1°00'
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