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Re: Solar Arc Directions

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jun 22, 2020 6:55 pm

Steve, now that you've read those five pages, let me draw your attention to a single report in Solar Fire that will give you the key to that "whole axis" analysis. - Remember, I can't vouch that this approach is entirely correct (even though I think it's somewhat correct and should be explored). That report is the Midpoint Listing.''

Let's take your chart as an example: Do an animated biwheel of your natal. Set the outside ring to Solar Arcs. Switch from a Wheel to a Dial. At a glance, it looks like maybe you have Moon to natal Ascendant-Jupiter, Sun-Uranus to Moon, Mercury to Sun-Uranus. Flipping back to the Wheel so that you can check degrees and minute, we confirm that you currently have, within 1°:

d Moon to r Ascendant (exact to the 0' right now)
d Sun to r Moon (6' sep.)
d Uranus to r Moon (43' ap)
d Mercury to r Sun (2' ap.)
d Mercury to r Uranus (27' sep)

This is a whole lot of very close solar arcs maturing all at the same time! One is exact to the minute three are exact within 6', five are exact to the degree. You can surely get a lot of information from planet-to-planet directions, including two sets involving your Sun-Uranus. We could take several pages working out the combinations, but, as a quick mention, that fact that Sun-Uranus directs to your Moon when Mercury directs to your Sun-Uranus tells me - without looking at the chart - that your Sun-Uranus square is at the Moon/Mercury midpoint. (Sun-Uranus is as far from Moon on one side as it is from Mercury on the other side.) Moon to Ascendant at the same time as Sun to Moon (within minutes!) tells me there is the extremely important picture: Moon = Sun/Asc! (Three personal points.)

Looking at your natal chart with the Midpoint Axes report (45°) confirms Mo = Su/Asc and Su = Ur = Mo/Me. But notice that we didn't need to check this to know it was there. We knew these two pictures existed in the natal because of the solar arcs maturing at the same time.

To interpret your current solar arcs, we can interpret these axe. From the Midpoint Axes report, with a 45° sort, you learn:
Su = Ur = Mo/Me = Ma/MC
Mo = Su/Asc = Ur/Asc = Ve/Sa = Ju/Ur = Su/Ju = Ma

Under this theory, you interpret the entire axis of each. In this case the midpoints are unusually important because they specifically involve natal Sun and Moon, activating their entire picture! (Progressed Sun conjunct natal Moon is obviously a big deal.)

But, just to finish the example and show you how to use the other report, the two closest aspects (only 2' apart) are Moon-to-Ascendant and Mercury-to-Sun. Criss-crossing these, you know (without having to calculate it) that, in your birth chart, the Moon/Sun midpoint (obviously a very important one) is on your Mercury/Asc midpoint. To understand all the repercussions of this, bring up the Midpoint Listing report (again, with a 45° sort).

Looking in the top half, you see that Mo/Su is 9°06' and Me/As is 9°03', confirming they are on the same axis. Next, look in the bottom half for this 9° point, going 1° either side, and you find the following lineup to interpret, all of them activated at once:

8°44' Mo/Ur
'9°03' Me/As
9°06' Mo/Su

9°56' Me/Ju
10°02' Ma/Pl

These other three midpoints (the theory goes) tell you more about what the activated intersection of Me/As and Mo/Su is about.
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Re: Solar Arc Directions

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:06 pm

Meantime, a quick glance looks like Gayle has Mars to Jupiter, Midheaven to Mars, Neptune to Saturn, Sun maybe to Uranus or MC. Looking back at the Wheel, to measure more carefully, we identify that only two of them are currently in orb:

d Mars to r Jupiter (50' sep.)
d Neptune to r Saturn 54' sep.)

Neither of these is close right now, but they were exact the same month, nearly a year ago, so they make a good example. You can get information just from seeing Mars to Jupiter and Neptune to Saturn but - using our crisscross math trick - you immediately know that the Mars/Saturn midpoint is on the Jupiter/Neptune midpoint in her birth chart.

This sounds grim, especially under the simpler interpretation of the two aspects. Looking at the Midpoint Listing report for Gayle's natal, we see Ma/Sa at 13°27' and Ju/Ne at 13°29', only 02' part. Going one degree either side of these gives a complete view of the axis:

12°37' Mo/Ur
13°27' Ma/Sa
13°29' Ju/Ne

14°20' Ju/As
14°21' Su/Pl
14°26' Me/Ju

Four more midpoints are on the axis. Whatever the event not quite a year ago blending Ma/Sa with Ju/Ne, its description would also be colored by Mo/Ur, Ju/As, Su/Pl, and Me/Ju.

Does this describe anything from that time?
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Re: Solar Arc Directions

Post by SteveS » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:23 am

Jim asked:
What did you think of the book overall?
Love it!!! Don't understand all the technical stuff yet, but I am now in my second reading and taking notes. Its a book I can definitely learn new things and its time for me to learn new astrological things with my d Mercury = r Sun- r Uranus. Jacobson's style of writing connects with my mind. Would you happen to have an AA birth data for him? I also love his style of mixing in humor with his serious Uranian/Astrological writings.

Jim wrote:
Remember, I can't vouch that this approach is entirely correct (even though I think it's somewhat correct and should be explored).


I clearly understand Jim. The tell-tell sign for me this “approach” will be a worthy approach is if Trump wins a second term! I mean---look--if we can prove-out an “approach” which specifies certain natal midpoints at certain times with Solar Arcs......

Jim, thank you so much for taking the time, particularly with the present state of your eye problems (sight), demonstrating with my Solar Arcs/Midpoints how to view/understand with Solar Fire. This will definitely add important new learning things with my d Mercury = r Sun-Uranus. If you ever see any specific tools (dials) that would help you help us all learn more with Uranian Astrology please let me know and I will get em to you.

Solar Arc/Secondary Progressed Sun to my Natal Moon and her Midpoints is definitely illuminating with deep reflections the important women (Mother, Wife, Tina-the Psychic) in my life. I know in Sidereal Astrology we should not regulate things/people to the planets, but my recent learning with Uranian Astrology tells me to look/investigate closely the women in my life with Natal Moon and her Midpoints. It truly is exciting and illuminating (Sun-Uranus) from an inner reflecting sight which probably I am the only one who understands its true(r) personal meanings for my life. It is so potent a reflection--at times it brings tears to my eyes at this late age in my life.

Jim wrote:
Does this describe anything from that time? (about Gayle)
Indeed!!! For the Mars-Saturn/Saturn-Neptune she is starring in the face in only a short matter of time before she loses her Mother and another best friend to the issues of death. She is caring for her best friend who has lung cancer and has made the decision to die without going through chemo and all that crap—her friend is 89---like a second mother. Also, Covid—19 canceled the free Cruise trip abroad for her an another close friend. This tore her heart out right at the time she needed an R&R break from her downer life happenings!!! But she is a strong woman---much stronger than me when it comes to downers. I have said it before: Women are stronger than Men when it comes to tough times, imo.

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Re: Solar Arc Directions

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:53 am

I have no birth data for Jacobson. I don't think he gave it in any of the Spica articles.
SteveS wrote:
Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:23 am
Jim, thank you so much for taking the time, particularly with the present state of your eye problems (sight), demonstrating with my Solar Arcs/Midpoints how to view/understand with Solar Fire. This will definitely add important new learning things with my d Mercury = r Sun-Uranus. If you ever see any specific tools (dials) that would help you help us all learn more with Uranian Astrology please let me know and I will get em to you.
Thank you. I wish I could find the metal Witte 90° that were so available in the '70s through '90s - I still have my 360° dial but have lost the very useful 90° dial (probably in the 2014-15 move). I've searched the Internet for them and can't find anyone making them. They were a perfect tool.
I know in Sidereal Astrology we should not regulate things/people to the planets, but my recent learning with Uranian Astrology tells me to look/investigate closely the women in my life with Natal Moon and her Midpoints.
I more or less always think this. When there is a major Moon theme in Sidereal ingresses, I think it will be "women in the news." SOmetimes this is right, sometimes wrong: There was an ingress early this year that covered a time when major news about both Queen Elizabeth and Ruth Bader Ginsburg occurred. OTOH, I was so sure the months-long and redundant Moon-Uranus in 2016 meant that the radical breakthrough would be for women and - while there was a major shift in cultural attitude regarding women in general (which manifest strongly the next year), I was wrong about what that meant for Hillary. Especially as long as society treats women as lesser or excluded, assigning specially defined roles and limits for them, mass mind will react to this symbol. (In some cases, especially in women's charts, it's still important to think of Sun as "men in their lives," even though they have lives of their own! This may have to do with the extent to which a given woman has actualized her identity in the world rather than let it remain a projection or service for father, husband, etc. - It's no different than anybody (man or woman) often seeing cops or bosses (for example) manifest as Sun. - The impact of this on you right now seems quite precious.
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Re: Solar Arc Directions

Post by SteveS » Tue Jun 23, 2020 9:19 am

Jim wrote:
The impact of this on you right now seems quite precious.
It is very precious Jim! It is difficult for me to express with words. Another very important woman in my life was Kasia, the Chicago Psychic who told me in 1977(?) I would be initiated into Astrology/Higher Learning with very important out of print books. Your book "Interpreting Solar Returns" was one of the books. This was when I didn't know one thing about Astrology/Higher Learning and thought Kasia full of it! It was the insistence from my wife we go to Chicago to get a Readings from Kasia (Psychic) and her Husband (Astrologer). We spent 3 full days with em---I was ready to leave the first day but I could tell Gayle was loving em. Then things only a few weeks later started to happen in my life.....and here I am on an astrological forum writing things about my life which is actually a mystery to me. I need to reflect and figure out the months I first met Kasia & Tina--to maybe do some synastry research with Solar Arcs.

Is Jacobson still on the planet--if so--where :?:

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Re: Solar Arc Directions

Post by Arena » Tue Jun 23, 2020 10:10 am

SteveS wrote:
Sun Jun 21, 2020 6:05 am
Arena wrote:
I find solar arcs particularly interesting like Steve. I must buy that Noel Tyl book and possibly also Ebertin's book on solar arcs. I also see that Frank C. Clifford gets the best reviews on his book on solar arcs, so that one might be worthwhile as well.
Arena, yesterday morning I received Clifford's “Solar Arc Handbook” and finished reading 3:00 AM this morning. Not much new which interested my mind except what I quoted from Clifford in the Synastry Topic. IMO, Tyl's (RIP) Solar Arc Book is still the best for the serious astrologer when it comes to learning how to apply Solar Arcs. But, Clifford's book has many more (dozens) Direct Solar Arc examples vs Tyl's book. Clifford only addresses the Direct Solar Arcs; whereas, Tyl also addresses the Indirect Solar Arcs to Midpoints, which I think are very important in certain cases.

Arena, I am also learning more/better how to use Tyl's specialized Solar Arc program designed with his Solar Arc book teachings. Its a lot less cumbersome to me than using Ebertin's dials in Solarfire, imo. Since you are an active member on this forum and are interested in Solar Arcs, I would like to use your recent life happenings as a par-excellent example for the use of Solar Arcs as taught by Tyl with his specialized Solar Arc program. Let me know. :)
Sure thing Steve. There are so many important contacts being made at this important time in my life.

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