October 8, 1980, 12:00noon, San Diego, CA
May 6, 1991, 5:53PM, Portland, OR
This is a relationship that caught me by surprise. When we met immediately after my last relationship ended, I didn't initially see us as compatible. But then we got each other's jokes in a way that was unusual for me, and as we've moved slowly forward, it's been pretty delightful.
For bad stuff, I see some Saturn aspects (though I don't see interpretation resources for Saturn-Saturn and Saturn-Jupiter aspects). And I see a Mercury-Neptune trine. In my last relationship there was a Mercury-Neptune aspect, I was the Mercury, and the relationship ended when I discovered what I considered to be a really important lying by omission situation. In this relationship, I'm the Neptune. I don't want to ever betray her with dishonesty. Is there a difference between a trine and an oct?
Trine her Moon 0 deg
Square her Neptune 1 deg
Square her Uranus 2 deg
Conjunct her AC 3 degr
Square her Mars 3 deg
Opp her Mercury 5 deg
Square her Uranus 2 deg
Trine her Moon 4 deg
Square her Neptune 5 deg
Conjunct her AC 7 deg
Square her Venus 1 deg
Sextile her Jupiter 4 deg
Square her Venus 4 deg
Trine her Saturn 5 deg
Conjunct her AC 2 deg
Opp his Mercury 5 deg
Trine his Sun 0 deg
Sextile his Neptune 4 deg
Square his Mercury 4 deg
Trine his Moon 4 deg
Trine his Pluto 5 deg
Square his Jupiter 1 deg
Square his Saturn 4 deg
Squares his Pluto 2 deg
Squares his Sun 3 deg
Trines his Uranus 4 deg
Sextiles his Saturn 4 deg
Squares his Mercury 5 deg
Squares his Mercury 4 deg
Trines his Saturn 5 deg
Trines his Moon 5 deg
One of the most favorable interchanges for any type of relationship, especially marriage. There is a natural impetus for these two people to get together. (Most people naturally gravitate toward those whose Suns strongly aspect the native's Moon.) The Moon is able to take a major interest in the Sun's person and adapt to the Sun's long-term ambitions. The Sun provides the Moon with a sense of importance that the Moon does not otherwise normally experience.
Neptune exaggerates both the good and the bad of this situation. In general, Neptune feels confused, embarrassed, and inadequate in the Sun's presence, making it difficult for either to communicate sensibly with the other. The Sun can easily humble or awe Neptune, perhaps having some secret or quality which makes the Sun appear Neptune's superior.
This relationship has its basis in constant diversity and variety. There is an instant, electrical attraction and such spontaneity between the two. Rarely does boredom enter the picture, and the two are likely to have much fun together. They may travel together.
An element of thrill and excitement is interjected into this association. Dullness is rarely present, and Uranus may introduce the Moon to some new lifestyle.
Each benefits from the other. Jupiter is always conscious of public images, and wants to be seen with the most beautiful and charming people. He lavishes affection and gifts upon Venus, the Fairest of the Fair in his eyes. Venus, quite pleased, turns her affections toward the Jupiterian, possibly with the feeling that she is consorting with royalty.
There is a strong need for intensive physical expression of some sort. Mars may be coercive, unmercifully attacking Pluto and taking every available advantage of him. Masochistic Pluto may even relish this treatment at times, and subconsciously invite it in his actions. Mars attacks what he cannot understand and, to the brash martian, Pluto is probably the most difficult to understand of all!
Somehow Mars incites the Sun to action, not caring to see the Sun sit about inactively. This is a strongly physical aspect, common among married couples, but it also instills a strong element of competition into any relationship. Mars is greatly inflamed with desire by the Sun's presence, perhaps treating the Sun as a demigod or some creature deserving special esteem. This naturally inflates the Sun's ego. For this reason, the interchange is even common among good friends of the same sex, though Mars is constantly egging the Sun to match that image. At its worst, it can be highly combative, but the Sun is well prepared to handle himself in the case of attack.
Communication is the dominant trait. Often the Sun somehow impels or inspires Mercury to self-expression, or adopts a mentor role.
A superb contact with a broad feeling of simpatico. The emotions of these two people are in close tune. They share similar interests, and respond to the tone of the world in much the same style. Not particularly common in marriage, but nonetheless a pleasing contact.
Madness is in the air! Neptune in particular is totally flustered or embarrassed by the Moon's presence, and in his desire to set things aright and hide his insecurity be babbles on to his utter mortification. This causes nothing but confusion between the two involved.
In some way, Saturn inhibits Venus' happiness or pleasure. Sometimes it indicates frustrated love, Saturn being inaccessible despite Venus' strong attraction to him. Venus may for some reason sacrifice her own pleasure out of a sense of devotion to Saturn, as in taking care of an ailing Saturn.
Few people outside of this relationship looking in can totally understand it, for it often takes on strange characteristics. In general, Pluto remains aloof and distant and tends to hold the Moon in awe. Fagan compared Pluto's relationship with the Moon to that of the hypnotist to his subject, the sadist to the masochist, the one who knows to the one who does not know.
There is opportunity for carefree, uncommitted sexual contact, especially if they meet while traveling. It may indicate Mars creating obstacles to the Uranian's dreams and goals.
Jupiter has the highest regard for Mercury's ideas and mode of expression, and does everything in his power to promote Mercury. This is a superb business combination, though usually with Mercury responsible for actual production while Jupiter runs the show. STATS: Significantly common between the charts of parents and children.
Saturn seems closed-eared to what Mercury has to say, offering it little respect and subconsciously shutting off his mind to it. Because Mercury cannot "get through" to Saturn, Saturn appears (to Mercury) to be stupid and slow to learn even the most basic things. This is not comfortable for business associations, or for teacher-pupil situations. STATS: Significantly uncommon between the charts of parents and children.
Saturn somehow inhibits the Moon from fully expressing her emotions or remains unresponsive to the latter's sensuous solicitations. Though often present among lifelong friends, it is not particularly conducive to domestic happiness together.
Neptune Square Sun
Venus Square Jupiter
Mercury Trine Neptune
Mercury Opp Pluto
His PlanetsNEPTUNE aspecting Natal SUN
Long-held ideas about who you are and where you are headed seem less certain, more nebulous. Confusion temporarily reigns on issues of identity, self-image, professional goals, and life-direction. Ego development is a gradual, rhythmic process of establishing, then dispersing and changing, one's identity; and your present stage marks a partial dissolving of your ego-structure to let a larger self-picture eventually emerge. Doubts, inferiority feelings, moodiness, introverted self-consciousness, feeling misunderstood or unfairly treated may all occur. Most of your responses are exaggerated, and negatives more easily catch your attention. Solve problems through simplification, not adding more factors to the equation. Your enhanced sensitivity sponsors creativity. An interest in metaphysics or philosophy nourishes the soul at this vulnerable time. You can now create a powerful new reality if you focus your will on the task. Remember: the only difference between fantasy and vision is whether you intend a thing will really happen!
T VENUS - N JUPITER
Warm, congenial, cooperative, probably social. Emphasis on pleasure. Pleasure through food, gala festivities, quality art, people. Friends may show bearing gifts.
T MERCURY - N NEPTUNE
Mind deals with fantasy better than fact. Foggy thinking, strange perceptions, fascination with the surreal, confused communications, metaphysical thought.
T MERCURY - N PLUTO
Confrontation. Decisions are called due, perhaps commitments made. Need for unambiguous answers. Stress, irritability.
Pluto Opp Mercury
Neptune Trine Mercury
Jupiter Square Venus
PLUTO aspecting Natal MERCURY
Your opinions - in fact your whole way of thinking - are passing through considerable change. In a revolt against lazy, prosaic thinking, your acute, penetrating detective's mind peers more deeply and observes less naively. Others may feel alienated by your impatience and willingness to confront any shortsighted concept, almost obsessively demanding answers where previously you have had none. Thinking along independent or bizarre lines, you may achieve a newly profound understanding of truth.
NEPTUNE aspecting Natal MERCURY
Your sensory and extrasensory perceptions are very sensitized. The normal division between the intellectual and imaginative parts of your brain is weakened so that rational and nonrational thoughts intermix somewhat indiscriminately. This may result in confusion, as imagination and sensation overwhelm the mind, a misplaced emphasis being your current key to most miscues. In one sense your mind is acutely clear right now; but its perceptions are mostly not of the physical reality in which you normally operate, being more symbolic and mythic in nature; i.e., your perceptions have the quality of dreams. It is important, therefore, that you attentively discriminate fact from fantasy in your practical activities, especially contracts and other paperwork. Prolonged concentration may require more effort. Misjudgment, logical errors and distractions are more common than usual. Realize that the whimsical, the creative, the intuitive and conceptual are where you shine now much more than the practical. Triple-check all practical matters and all important communications; then profit from the advantages of this freer access to right-brain consciousness.
JUPITER aspecting Natal VENUS
Pleasure is now the keynote of your life. Your interest in sharing good times and good feelings with others is strong. You simply enjoy people more, and give yourself more opportunity to be with them. Discovering a new confidence and certainty in your feelings, you find love and friendship both more important now, and easier to find. Romance prospers, as do other love matters. Your attractiveness and openness become especially apparent to others. Popularity increases. Special social occasions, such as engagements, weddings, and births, tend to happen at times like this. Pursuit of pleasure leans toward the immoderate. Only if you are in a situation where it is impossible to be with others will this transit likely bring the discomfort of loneliness.