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England's natal chart & Brexit

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Sep 05, 2019 7:22 pm

Ken Bowser wrote today about the interaction of England's natal chart, Queen Elizabeth's natal chart, and current transits with respect to transit. His first, exactly-on-target observation is that England's natal Sun and MC are 28°11' Sagittarius, the Queen's Ascendant is 27°41' Sagittarius, and the upcoming Saturn-Pluto conjunction is... yeah, you guessed it: right on top of them.

I'd add (but perhaps only pursue a later time) that England's chart and that of her longest-reigning queen, have much in common. For examples, besides the Sun-Ascendant partile interchange, their Marses are in partile conjunction - both exalted - at 26°55' an 27°10' Capricorn respectively. Her Moon 18°25' Cancer is opposite England's Venus 18°07' Capricorn. (There's more, but that's the start.)

England as we know it, and the British monarchy in particular, was founded with the coronation of William I ("the Conqueror") at noon sundial time (12:05:17 PM LMT), December 25, 1066, at Westminster Abbey, 51N29'58", 0W07'36".

Ken then raised the point of England's next Sidereal Solar Return. That's my main reason for this post, since I'm in a good position to give the exact angularity breakdowns across nearly a thousand years of precession. The SSR occurs January 13, 2020, 10:36:12 PM GMT, and I've calculated it for the standard geographic coordinates of London.

My basic impression is that the chart leans positive overall except that the concurrent transits to the natal chart - technically a different matter, not to be confused with the SSR itself - are quite deplorable. Also, it's clear that if England suffers it will be because it wounded itself, the most angular planet being natal Saturn rising. (The non-foreground partile transits are some of the most important factors.)

Here is the breakdown:

r Moon on Dsc -9°27'
t Jupiter on IC -9°05
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r Saturn on Asc +2°02'
r Jupiter on Asc +9°28''

r Moon/Jupiter midpoint on horizon 0°00'
t Jupiter sq. r Moon 0°22' in mundo
Add: t Moon-Mars sq. 1°58', t Moon-Venus op. 3°24' in mundo

Other partile
t Saturn-Pluto conj. 0°06'
t Saturn conj. r Sun, r MC 0°17'
t Moon sq. r Neptune 0°18'
t Pluto conj. r Sun, r MC 0°23'
t Neptune conj. r Pluto 0°34'
t Venus sq. r Neptune 0°41' in mundo
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Re: England's natal chart & Brexit

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:06 pm

As long as I have the chart handy, I thought I''d see how major events (that I already have on hand) in British history stack up - just based on transits.

Britain entered World War I (declared war on Germany)
t Saturn -45- r Pluto 05'
t Moon sq. r Mercury 49'

Armistice effectively ending WW I
t Mercury op. r Neptune 18'
(quite poor!)

Start of War of 1812
t Neptune -45- r Mercury 24'
t Mars sq. r Moon 27', op. r Uranus 13'
t Venus op. r Venus 53'
t Sun sq. r Saturn 07'
(quite good!)

Treaty of Ghent ending War of 1812
t Neptune sq. r Jupiter 21'
t Uranus =45= r Sun 54'
t Saturn -45- r Pluto 21'
t Jupiter op r Moon 52', sq. r Uranus 12'
t Mars -45- r Uranus 38'
t Mercury -45- r Mercury 09'

Britain enters World War II
t Saturn sq. r Saturn 34'
t Venus op. r Sun 09'
t Mercury op. r Neptune 03'
t Sun op. r Mercury 40'

D-Day
t Pluto sq. r Asc 0°32'
t Saturn sq. r Saturn 53'
t Jupiter op. r Mars 28'
t Sun sq. r Pluto 44'
t Moon -45- r Sun 39'

VE Day
t Pluto sq. r Asc 31' (that's all!)

VJ Day, end of WW II (plus US instantly calling due all war debt)
t Neptune -135- r Mars 32'
t Saturn op. r Sun, r MC 54'
t Mars -135- r Venus 38'
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Re: England's natal chart & Brexit

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:12 pm

Lockerbie bombing
t Pluto -45- r Saturn 25'
t Jupiter -45- r Moon 35'
t Venus op. r Neptune 01'
t Mercury sq. r Moon 26', conj. r Uranus 14'
t Sun sq. r Saturn 28'
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Re: England's natal chart & Brexit

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Sep 05, 2019 8:17 pm

Princess Elizabeth's Wedding
t Pluto oct. r Saturn 51'
t Neptune op. r Moon 47'
t Mars oct. r Moon 39', r Uranus 01'
t Mercury op. r Asc 25'
t Sun oct. r Moon 55'

Queen Elizabeth II Coronation
t Pluto op. r Mars 12'
t Neptune sq. r Sun, MC 56'

Charles & Diana Wedding
t Pluto sq. r Sun, MC 55'
t Uranus -135- r Moon 47', -45- r Uranus 07'
t Saturn -135- r Mars 52'
t Jupiter -135- r Mars 29'
t Venus sq. r Neptune 56'
t Mercury op. r Sun, MC 43'
t Sun -45- r Jupiter 31'

Princess Di's Death
t Uranus oct. r Jupiter 25'
t Saturn oct. r Neptune 30'
t Jupiter oct. r Saturn 26'
t Mercury oct. r Sun 54'
t Sun oct. r Sun 19'
t Moon oct. r Saturn 18'

Prince Di's Funeral
t Uranus oct. r Jupiter 36'
t Saturn oct. r Neptune 50'
t Jupiter conj. r Venus 52'
t Mars oct. r Saturn 06'
t Venus sq. r Sun, MC 29'
t Sun oct. r Mercury 44'
t Moon oct. r Pluto 07'
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Re: England's natal chart & Brexit

Post by gmugmble » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:11 pm

Princess Elizabeth's Wedding
t Pluto oct. r Saturn 51'
"oct"? Sorry, but what is this?

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Re: England's natal chart & Brexit

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:46 pm

Octile. 45 or 135 aspect.
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