Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:46 am

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Do we start running into problems determining an exact transit of a slow moving planet to a fixed star, for reliable timed charts to explore SMA principles?
If you want an exact chart, then, yes. If you just want to know the day, then no.

The planet's speed determines how precisely we can calculate a time. SF will give us planet positions to the nearest second of arc, and should be accurate to that level (since Vol. 22 of the AE papers, the standard of planetary calculations, is well developed in astrological software). For example, here are the outer planet speeds for today and (by dividing the number of seconds into 24 hours) how accurately (plus or minus) we can time an exact transit.

Jupiter 13'16" = 796" … 00:01:49
Saturn 5'41" = 341" … 00:04:13
Uranus 2'13" = 133" … 00:10:50
Neptune 0'22" = 22" … 1:05:27
Pluto 0'02" = 02" … 12:00:00
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:49 am

Jim wrote:
I created a new User Defined Points file called Steve, opened it with the Edit button, and here is what I see.
:idea: Jim, making a little progress. I just found in my version of SF the fixed stars file (with Sirius) under ''Extra Ring Points" in a column named: 'Available Points.'

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 13, 2018 11:53 am

Good. I'm not 100% sure you can use that for what you want, though - the "transit search" specifically uses the User Defined Points, not the extra ring. But it's progress. It should at least give you a way to get Sirius' longitude to the second of arc and manually (brute force) calculate a "return" for Sun to that longitude.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:34 pm

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Good. I'm not 100% sure you can use that for what you want,
Me either, I may have to call Solar Fire tech person, I pity him trying to understand me telling him what I need :) . If I can't figure out how to do your instructions in my version with the 'Extra Ring Points,' I will update to latest version. I did click the 'Add' button for Sirius in the 'Fixed Star File' in the Extra Ring Points' window, but all it did was 'Add' another Sirius name to the 'Extra Ring Points' list.

What little research I have done with t. Sun to Sirius, I will make a wild guess and say a possibility this is calling only WORLD WIDE events which affect entire World---like the Great Depression for DC, and WW11 for London 1939 London---but I want to at least look at all these charts over the last 200 years, which I can't do until I implement your instructions.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:37 pm

In the mean time, you can use the list I provided above to type in the chart data for events since 1900 (or I can expand the list).
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:39 pm

You should also have the option of adding fixed stars to extra transit points and extra natal points according to the manual for solar fire 7 (gold.)
You have to use the file manager function in the program to add them. Look for a file named Brady.FST

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:07 pm

Wait for the possibility Jim for expanding the list, thanks.

Thanks JSAD, you may have provided what I need to function into my version Jim's instructions.

In the meantime, the first paragraph in the 1984 book Mundane Astrology under "Fixed Stars" reads:
Specific stars have been used in mundane work from the earliest times, though of recent years they have been rather neglected, with the move to simplify the tradition for mass marketing. It would seem that certain stars do appear to have considerable value in forecasting when they are brought into sharp focus.


It is my contention Jim's Sidereal Mundane Astrology principles has great potential to bring certain fixed stars into a sharper "focus" for the Sidereal Astrologer.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:27 pm

Steve, what years do you want covered?
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:38 pm

Jim, let me get back to you about some spot checking for other major world events, or feel free to wing it yourself. I want to check out the Black Plague and other calamities with fixed star Algol and Benetnash, as well with Sirius.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:51 am

Jim, in 1776, what time did transiting Sun in Philadelphia conjunct Sirius? Thanks

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

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Jim, in 1776, what time did transiting Sun in Philadelphia conjunct Sirius? Thanks
Jul 3 1775 NS 05:17:23 am UT
Jul 2 1776 NS 11:28:11 am UT
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:36 am

Adding some more quoted words about Fixed Stars from the book “Mundane Astrology” by Michael Baigent, Nicholas Campion and Charles Harvey.
Another approach is that Ebertin and Hoffman who mention two effects of the transits of outer planets in conjunction with fixed stars. Ebertin had made a special study of transits to the fixed star Benetnash, the ‘hired mourners’ over several centuries. Ebertin concludes that ancient tradition is essentially correct and that this fixed star is of great importance in mundane astrology. Ebertin says: ‘Benetnash will claim human lives in calamities such as mine accidents, collapse of houses and bridges, mountain slides, earth tremors, and catastrophes caused by weather. Ebertin goes on to illustrated the period of major instability in the world that occurred as Uranus came conjunct to Benetnash at the end of July 1968.
Jim, if I understood you in an earlier post, I think you said we cannot rely on an exact timed mundane chart for an outer planet transit to a fixed star to the second of arc with SF, only transiting Sun. I think I am going to have to order a new update to SF from my old version to follow your directions for investigating transits to fixed stars in certain location, but am still investigating with my old SF version.

Jim, when you have time, can you check the mundane charts with your SF version transiting Sun to Benetnash for the collapse of the two World Trade Centers in New York for 2001? Also, the 1900 Galveston Hurricane, and 1906 San Francisco Earthquake? Thanks.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:52 am

Just an FYI. All astrological or astronomical software, including but not limited to Solar Fire, are unable to do a chart for an outer planet transit to a fixed star to the second of arc. Nobody knows exactly what makes the earth or any other object perambulate in it's orbit. When you don't know what causes the wobble, you can't predict the wobble.

It's not a fault in Solar Fire or any other software. It's a fault in astronomy.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:49 am

Thanks JSAD. I looked at the Brady star file in my SF version an all positions are in the Tropical Z, don't really understand why. Have not yet been able to hook-up with a SF tech for many questions related to Jim's instructions in this thread pertaining to fixed stars with my version of SF.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:52 am

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Ebertin says: ‘Benetnash will claim human lives in calamities such as mine accidents, collapse of houses and bridges, mountain slides, earth tremors, and catastrophes caused by weather. Ebertin goes on to illustrated the period of major instability in the world that occurred as Uranus came conjunct to Benetnash at the end of July 1968.
Jim, when you have time, can you check the mundane charts with your SF version transiting Sun to Benetnash for the collapse of the two World Trade Centers in New York for 2001? Also, the 1900 Galveston Hurricane, and 1906 San Francisco Earthquake? Thanks.
I'm sure Ebertin (whose fixed star book I know well) was taking these transits to the star with a one degree orb, not trying to get return-like charts to the minute. Nonetheless, before I got to the part of your post where you asked, I had already decided to check my whole SMA file against transits to this star.

The specific seems to be that planetary conjunctions with Benetnash cause large loss of human life, particularly found in mine accidents, structural collapses, earthquakes, weather catastrophes, etc. Sure, we have a few of those on file.

The fifth brightest ('Eta') star in Ursa Major, Benetnash is in the same degree as my Ascendant ecliptically, at 2°10' Virgo. Its name means "hired mourners," as stated above, and Ebertin considers it to have a nature like Mars-Uranus-Saturn. (I can't find any SF list that has this star in it so I'm just using Ebertin's 26°08' Tropical Virgo converted. It will be correct within a minute or two, good enough for present purposes.)

The test will be: Do any charts for events in my primary SMA catalogue have any planet within 1° of 2°10' Virgo. I find 15 events out of 353, including one bridge collapse, a few earthquakes, and other events listed below (I don't think things like a financial panic and Sputnik loss count as loss of life, but some of the others certainly do).

Erzincan earthquake - Neptune 1°37' Virgo (op Mars partile)
San Francisco earthquake - Jupiter 2°05' Virgo (op Venus partile)
Amatrice earthquake - Jupiter 1°36' Virgo, Mercury 2°15' Virgo
1985 Mexico City earthquake - Sun 2°00' Virgo
Hurricane Maria - Sun 2°37' Virgo
Tacoma Narrows Bridge disaster - Neptune 3°02' Virgo
Dresden bombing - Jupiter 1°53' Virgo
Hiroshima bomb - Jupiter 2°18' Virgo
16 Street Baptist Church bomb - Venus 2°23' Virgo
Tultepec Fireworks Market explosion - Moon 2°07' Virgo
Chualar bus crash - Moon 1°18' Virgo (conj Sun 1°12')
Ramstein Air Show Disaster - Mercury 2°04' Virgo (sq. Saturn-Uranus partile)
Martin Luther King murder - Uranus 2°06' (op Venus 1°12')

No Direct Loss of Life
Sputnik launch - Mercury 3°04' Virgo
Panic of 1857 - Mercury 3°09' Virgo

So, first, is this in any way an unusual number of items found? More or less, each planet stands 1 chance in 180 of being within the 2° zone that is one degree either side of this longitude. As we have 10 planets in consideration, we have 10 chances in 180 of getting a random hit by something in that zone, or about half a percent. For 353 events we would randomly expect something to be there twice, and we have 15. That seems like a lot!

That's quantity. Anything about quality? I was intrigued how many times (6 times out of the 13 life-taking events, or about half) the planet in that degree was in close aspect to something. That seemed to highlight the passage. Often the planet crossing the star was significant to the type of event; on the other hand, the several Jupiter contacts weren't like that at all, and that weighs against it. Of 13 life-taking events, four had luminaries ("generic strong hits") to the degree. Of the 9 remaining, Mercury hit for an airplane crash, Venus for the death of two little girls, Uranus for MLK's murder (a civil rights movement eruption), Neptune for two mixed disasters, and Jupiter (most active of all) for two high-casualty earthquakes and two high-casualty devastating military bombings.

I'm troubled by the Jupiter. Nonetheless, the raw number is interesting. Notice that not a single malefic was involved except for the two Neptunes. This was otherwise all neutrals and benefics. It's quite odd in many ways, but the raw frequency of it is hard to ignore.

I'll try a different degree and see how many I get for comparison.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:54 am

Either something is wrong with my math, or... something...

I just picked the longitude of Antares (currently 15°01' Scorpio) and got 29 event.

OK, rethinking this aloud (let me know if you find a flaw in my thinking). Taking a 1° orb for a conjunction with a single longitude consumes 2° (one either side). That's 2 out of 360, or 1 out of 180. For 353 events we expect 353 x (1/180) events to show for each planet, or 353 x (1/180) x 10 for ten possible planets to randomly be in that 2° zone. (The odds may not be exactly that because each planet doesn't spend the same amount of time in each part of the zodiac, so it's crazier than that; but this is ballpark.)

Yes, there was an error in my math! (That makes me feel a LOT better. This was driving me nuts.) I hit the wrong calculator keys or something. 3,530 possible planets (10 each for 353 events), each having a 1/180 chance of being in the targeted zone, is 3,530/180 or just under 20 (not 2; I guess I didn't multiply by 10 before). The 15 Benetnash hits was a little less than we expect randomly (not significantly; it was about what we expect) and the 29 for Antares is not quite 50 more which, by itself, is still not all that unusual.

As long as I have them, let's tally the Antares events (picked in honor of Steve's Moon and because it historically has a nice, straightforward nature of being a hyper-Mars). I do see a different style of event as I scan the events, with a particular focus on murders and many more extremely violent events (and a different planet mix).

Avezzano earthquake - Venus 14°34' Scorpio
Loma Prieta earthquake - Venus 15°47' Scorpio (op Moon 1°18')
Amatrice earthquake - Mars 14°42' Scorpio, Saturn 14°54' Scorpio (sq. Neptune 15°55' Aqu)
Mount Tambora eruption - Uranus 14°25' Scorpio
Nevado del Ruiz eruption - Moon 14°27' Scorpio
Galveston Hurricane - Uranus 15°18' Scorpio
Grand Harbour of Malta tornado - Jupiter 14°14' Scorpio (sq. Pluto 1°18')
St. Francis Dam ruptured/flood - Moon 14°26' Scorpio (rising)
2016 Louisiana floods - Saturn 14°48' Scorpio (stationary) (sq. Neptune 1°25')
Cocoanut Grove Nightclub fire - Venus 15°23' Scorpio (op. Saturn 0°04')
Great Chicago Fire - Mars 15°26' Scorpio
Peshtigo fire (same day as Chicago) - Mars 15°10' Scorpio
Our Lady of the Angels school fire - Sun 14°58' Scorpio
'Wall Street bombing - Mars 14°04' Scorpio
Beirut embassy bombing - Uranus 14°05' Scorpio, Jupiter 15°43' Scorpio
Shuttle Columbia disintegration - Mars 15°09' Scorpio
Chernobyl explosion - Saturn 14°03' Scorpio
SpaceX explosion - Saturn 15°06' Scorpio (sq. Neptune 0°35', Sun 0°33', Moon 1°25')
John F. Kennedy murder - Mercury 15°31' Scorpio (sq Uranus 0°04')
Gerald Ford shot (non-fatal) - Neptune 14°41' Scorpio
Columbine massacre - Pluto 15°23' Scorpio (op. Venus 0°34')
San Ysidro McDonalds shooting - Uranus 15°23' Scorpio
Colorado Springs shootings - Mercury 15°56' Scorpio
San Bernardino shootings - Sun 15°18' Scorpio
Nellie Massacre - Jupiter 14°15' Scorpio, Uranus 14°21' Scorpio
I-35 Mississippi River bridge collapse - Jupiter 15°07' Scorpio
Andria-Corato train wreck - Saturn 15°36' Scorpio
Saratov Flight 703 disaster - Mars 14°45' Scorpio

Non-deadly events
Sputnik launch - Saturn 15°46' Scorpio

Steve, what I find most interesting here is that we have an entirely different kind of event - more violent, forceful, murderous, explosive - and a very different sort of planets. Of 28 events (excluding the Sputnik launch) we again have a lot (about 1/3) where the planet conjunct the star is tightly aspected. (Odds of a planet within 1° of the star being within these orbs of conjunction, opposition, or square another planet are about 3 times rarer, or 1/540, and we'd expect it to occur once or twice in 353 charts).

This time, of 28 tragedies, we had only 4 luminary ("generic") hits. Mars was involved 6 times (an earthquake, two fires, a bomb explosion, a space shuttle burning up, and a plane crash) and Saturn 5 times (a quake, a flood, Chernobyl, a deathless explosion, and a train wreck - not a distinctive Saturn mix particularly, but often with Saturn aspecting Neptune).

In contrast, Venus was the planet only 3 times (2 quakes and Venus-Saturn for a fire) and Jupiter four times (a mix of events). Uranus, though, had as many as Mars and Saturn (5 events, arguably all sudden, eruptive, even explosive).

I think I should try a classically benefic star and see what I get.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:42 pm

Vega is generally considered a sweet-disposition star. Its important - the brightest star in the northern night sky - generally thought to be like Venus. It's at 20°34' Sagittarius.

If these stars are really characterizing these events, we should get an entirely different kind of event from Vega conjunctions than Antares and, perhaps, it should be really hard to find a lot of negative events (lower than expected) unless they are distinctly afflicted-Venus sort of events (with more malefics than benefics hitting the star). At least... that's my theoretical thinking. (If they are related to Venus matters, and especially to the arts or fine lifestyle, that's even better.) - Notice BTW that Vega is almost exactly opposite Sirius (if I'd thought of this at the beginning I might have picked a different star).

And indeed... we get fewer events. 17 events (just below average expectancy). That's a start. Let's see what planets are involved.

Nepal earthquake - Pluto 20°35' Sag
Amatrice earthquake - Pluto 20°13' Sag
Hurricane Andrew - Uranus 19°45' Sag (Neptune 21°51' Sag)
Tropical Cyclone Pam - Pluto 20°17' Sag (sq. Uranus 0°08', Mars 1°10')
2016 Louisiana Floods - Pluto 20°25' Sag
Ghost Ship fire - Pluto 21°02' Sag (sq. Jupiter 1°12')
Buddhist Temple murders - Neptune 19°55' Sag
Charleston AME Church shootings - Pluto 19°46' Sag (op. Moon 0°21')
Baghdad bombs 7/2016 - Pluto 21°22' Sag
Anwar Sadat murder - Moon 20°58' Sag
Dhaka Restaurant attacks - Pluto 21°24' Sag (op. Venus 0°37')
Happy Land Social Club fire - Neptune 19°50' Sag
Warsaw Radio Mast collapse - Neptune 19°57' Sag
SpaceX explosion - Pluto 20°06' Sag
Tultepec Fireworks Market explosions - Pluto 21°35' Sag
Panic of 1819 - Sun 21°23' Sag [might not be the exact day, probably is]
Andria-Corato Train Wreck - Pluto 21°08' Sag

This is entirely different! Not only are there fewer events, fewer of them have close aspects at the time of the event (only 5 out of 17). Nearly all of them (15 out of 17) involved one of the outer three planets, most of them Pluto, which might just be a measurement of when I was most closely watching for events, or might be some related thing (like most occurred when Pluto was square Uranus, even if not super-tightly - so more extreme events were happening during those few years).

Of these 17, 11 occurred with Pluto conjunct the star, being between 19°46' and 21°35' Sagittarius. Only occasionally was Pluto closely aspected or particularly set off during those times. The events are a mix of events, with four natural disasters, a fire, three acts of violence, two accidental explosions, and a train wreck. There is overall less malice (3 out of 11 being purposefully malicious). It's quite a different set.

Of the remaining six, Neptune was there three times (diverse events) and Uranus once (a hurricane, while conjunct Neptune). Only twice (and maybe only once) was a luminary involved. And no other planets were involved.

If I'm not reading too much into it, there is even a slight leaning toward the Vega-like themes of "messing up nice things," with an earthquake devastating an anciently, beautiful area of cultural richness, fires in a musical arts collective & a social club, murders in a historic church, terrorist attacks in an upscale tourist spot, unintended murders while robbing a temple, a collapse of wealth, etc.

First impressions, then, are that there are fewer events, most of the contacts might have been happenstance (due to other coincidental factors), and - aside from the outermost planets that always have to be somewhere - it's as if planets were avoiding this part of the sky, which is much the way that benefics sometimes show up for horrible events but usually more by "luck of the draw." When these hits did occur, more of the events than not involved wealth, arts, culture, etc. (if I'm not over-reading).

There just might be something here.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:13 pm

I should do two more to "balance the scales," since I'm only taking conjunctions. Antares is opposite Aldebaran, Vega is opposite Sirius, so I should look at these two and see if I can comparable or opposing (or simply different) results.

Sirius is currently at 19°20' Gemini. It is the brightest night-time star in either hemisphere, as Vega (opposite it) is in the northern hemisphere. Sirius is historically distinctly royal and powerful (connected to royalty, great leaders, and those with a similar life and power), thought to be like Mars and Jupiter.

Again, we get a smaller number of events - 18, essentially just what we would expect randomly. Here they are:

Great Kanto earthquake - Pluto 18°22' Gem
Laki eruption - Mercury 19°44' Gem (op. Saturn 0°35')
1927 Mississippi River flood (peak) - Pluto 20°07' Gem
Millennium Flood - Sun 19°11' Gem
L'Innovation Department Store fire - Venus 19°26' Gem
Alamo Fire - Sun 20°03' Gem (sq. Jupiter 0°44')
Winter Cherry shopping mall fire - Moon 19°48' Gem (sq. Mercury 1°45')
Lac-Megantic train derailment/explosion - Sun 19°23' Gem
Bahawalpur tanker explosion - Mars 18°27' Gem (sq. Jupiter 0°08')
Fall of Saigon - Saturn 19°29' Gem
2001 Afghanistan War began - Jupiter 19°51' Gem (op. Mars 2°+, sq. Sun 0°08')
Charleston AME Church shooting - Moon 19°25' Gem (op Pluto 0°21')
Austin Tower shootings - Venus 19°00' Gem, Mars 20°10; Gem
Jonestown massacre - Moon 19°04' Gem
1960 NYC Mid-Air collision - Mars 19°48' Gem
Richard Nixon resigned - Saturn 18°53' Gem
Charles & Diana wedding - Moon 19°07' Gem
King Edward VII Coronation - Mars 19°46' Gem

This is a totally different list! Foremost, I notice that this (with a star associated with royalty and the likes, their exaltation and their fall) is the first time we've run into any royalty events: a royal wedding, an important coronation, Nixon's fall and, fort hat matter, Saigon's fall.

Seven of 18 were tightly aspected. I noticed quite a few had wider aspects.

Also, there is a very high percentage of luminaries and Mars, as if planets were racing to this exact degree. Sun conjoined Sirius 3 times (a millennium scale flood, a record-breaking large-scale California fire, and an explosion that wiped out a town - all vast scale events). Moon conjoined it 4 times. Mars 4 times (not all bad, since a coronation was involved; the others were fiery etc.). The rest are divided among Pluto (2), Saturn (2, for great falls), Venus (1), Jupiter (1), and Mercury (1).
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:00 pm

Aldebaran is 15°01' Taurus. In contrast to Antares conjunctions, there are only 17 Aldebaran conjunctions. Being bright red, Aldebaran is historically equated to Mars, but in a more benign or positive fashion, as in strength. I also have tended to think it is connected specifically to philosophy and the Mysteries.

Mt. Vesuvius eruption - Neptune 15°47' Tau
Volcan de Fuego eruption - Mercury 15°13' Tau
Loma Prieta earthquake - Moon 14°29' Tau
Cocoanut Grove fire - Saturn 15°19' Tau (op. Venus 00°04')
Hurricane Hazel - Moon 15°56' Tau
Heppner flash flood - Mercury 14°10' Tau (stationary)
Vanport flood - Sun 15°24' Tau (sq. Moon 0°15')
Dresden bombing - Uranus 15°08' Tau
Hiroshima bomb - Mars 15°14' Tau
D-Day - Uranus 15°22' Tau, Venus 15°39' Tau
Columbine massacre - Venus 14°49' Tau (op. Pluto 0°34')
Sandy Hook shooting - Jupiter 14°50' Tau
Tree of Life Synagogue murders - Moon 15°28' Tau
USS Scorpion sank - Mars 15°29' Tau
Tachikawa air disaster - Jupiter 15°10' Tau
Panic of 1893 - Pluto 14°36' Tau, Neptune 15°15' Tau
Prince William's birth - Mercury 14°29' Tau

I'm not sure what to make of this list, but let's run it by the numbers. A statistically normal number of events (like most of these) with only four simultaneously aspected (and perhaps we can count the station in the same category). This is a very low percentage compared to most of the others. Nothing stands out in terms of flavor of events.

Only four have luminary ("generic") hits, and they're all quite different. Only three go to classic malefics (1 to Saturn, 2 to Mars), and they're all different kinds of events. Four go to classic benefics, and most of them are killing events (murders and military). Uranus 2, Neptune 2, Pluto 1, with a hearty 3 for Mercury (mostly different).

I'm hesitant to call any of these hits to Aldebaran obviously meaningful or to say there is a discernible pattern in them. In this way they contrast sharply with the opposite degree and Antares. If somebody sees interpretive consistency, let me know.



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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:09 am

Jim, I appreciate your research work with your latest posts. It is becoming somewhat obvious that there may be statistical info which supports partile cnj planetary transits to certain fixed starts has symbolic merit. But, with the miss hits it appears to me we need a refinement method to eliminate the miss-hits, symbolically speaking.
The only possible refinement method I know which may bear fruit is doing a Sun Ingress to the fixed star, as long as we feel we have the second of arc position to the fixed star within 2-3 seconds of arc, like we do with our 0 degree cardinal ingresses with SMA. This would offer us a mundane chart to examine for angular hits, and partile 0,90,180 Moon aspects to the planets. For example: When Ebertin says when Benetnash “will claim human lives in calamities” such as structural collapses it would be good research if we only had Benetnash Sidereal Zodiac position to within a couple of seconds of time arc. Then we could check the Sun transit to Benetnash in NY for the year 2001 for probably the greatest single buildings collapse (World Trade Centers) in modern history. As of yet, I am unable to get the second of arc positions of certain fixed stars in the Sidereal Z at different times & locations with major historical events. We at least need a model of similar events with a fixed star to check and see if the transiting Sun to the second of arc fixed star will offer us a confirming mundane chart for the event. O wait, maybe you could check this small model with the star Regulus for heads of states dying or being eliminated from their heads of states. But, no need to check this model if you don’t have a reliable zodiac position of Regulus to the second of arc.
Model: Mundane Chart for Transiting Sun cnj Regulus for the following years, elimination from heads of states.
1: Assassination of Ferdinand at Sarajevo in June 1914 (Mars cnj Regulus)
2: Assassination of Alexander of Yugoslavia in October 1934 (Mars cnj Regulus)
3: Assassination of Trotsky May 1940, Soviet Union (Mars cnj Regulus)
4: Attempt on Hitler in July 1944 (Mars cnj Regulus)
Transiting Mars not cnj Regular but:
5: “Bismarck was forced to relinquish office the very day Saturn came exactly cnj Regulus on March 20 1890.
Does your version of SF offer Regulus SZ position to the second of arc for the above dates? If so, I can calculate the mundane charts in the above locations when t. Sun to the second of arc cnj Regulus zodiac position to the second of arc.
IMO, the only way we/you are ever going to untangle the modern fixed stars mess with mundane astrology is with your teaching principles on Sidereal Mundane Astrology with a specific type mundane ingress chart when t. Sun cnj the fixed star, associated with a specific event in a specific location, according to certain symbolic meanings associated to the fixed star itself. Planetary cnj transits by themselves to certain fixed stars leaves us with too many mixed results.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:50 am

SteveS wrote:
Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:09 am
1: Assassination of Ferdinand at Sarajevo in June 1914 (Mars cnj Regulus)
2: Assassination of Alexander of Yugoslavia in October 1934 (Mars cnj Regulus)
3: Assassination of Trotsky May 1940, Soviet Union (Mars cnj Regulus)
4: Attempt on Hitler in July 1944 (Mars cnj Regulus)
Transiting Mars not cnj Regular but:
5: “Bismarck was forced to relinquish office the very day Saturn came exactly cnj Regulus on March 20 1890.
Here are the prior Sun-Regulus conjunctions. (Remember, Steve, the Regulus position will be a little different every single time we check one of these. I've listed the longitude in each case for comparison.)

1. August 22, 1913, 8:32:48 AM GMT, 5°05'21" Leo
2. August 22, 1934, 5:37:17 PM GMT, 5°05'17" Leo
3. August 23, 1939, 0:18:52 AM GMT, 5°05'15" Leo
4. August 23, 1943, 0:57:03 AM GMT, 5°05'14" Leo
5. August 21, 1889, 5:03:25 AM GMT, 5°05'26" Leo
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:23 am

A few from SMA to add:

Abraham Lincoln murdered
August 20, 1864, 7:19:523 PM GMT

James Garfield murdered
Shot under: August 20, 1880, 9:37:27 PM GMT
Died under: August 321 1881, 3:46:17 AM GMT

William McKinley murdered
August 22, 1901, 1:47:55 AM EST

Mahatma Gandhi murdered
August 23, 1947, 7:03:07 AM IST

John Kennedy Murdered
August 22, 1963, 11:53:22 PM EDT

Robert Kennedy murdered (same chart for Martin Luther King murder)
August 22, 1967, 9:34:08 PM PDT

Richard Nixon resigned
August 22, 1973, 11:30:55 PM EDT

Moscone & Milk Murders
August 22, 1978, 5:10:28 PM PDT

Anwar Sadat murdered
August 22, 1981, 9:48:19 PM EEDT
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:40 am

Jim wrote:
Here are the prior Sun-Regulus conjunctions. (Remember, Steve, the Regulus position will be a little different every single time we check one of these. I've listed the longitude in each case for comparison.)
Thanks Jim, I will look at these timed mundane charts as well as the others you added later in the week. Yesterday, I took a look at the mundane DC chart of t. Sun exact cnj Sirius (S/S) for July 5 2008 5:12:11 PM. This was the year which marked the beginning of the Great Recession with the Housing Mortgage Crises and collapse of the Wall Street Banks in Sept-Oct 2008.

Note:
Moon 27,09 Can
Nep 28,59Rx Cap

During Sept-Oct 2008 t. Nep was partile 180 S/S Moon, and p. S/S Moon was partile 180 S/S Neptune. I find this most interesting since with your SMA essay for financial panics in the USA, you identified Moon-Neptune as one of the main signatures for financial panics.

Transiting Sun exact cnj Sirius July 5 2008:

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:52 pm

Jim, the first Sun transiting Regulus I did was for the year Lincoln was assassinated. Check it out!

Moon 180 (1,13) Saturn, Sun partile 90 Mars

DC Sun/Regulus Aug 20 1864 7:19:52 PM GMT

https://imgur.com/a/sjrnhHD

April 14 1865 DC Q2 10:15 PM for the day Lincoln was shot.

Q2 Sun partile 90 Q2 MC, with Sun partile 90 Mars with Mars 1,20 cnj Q2 MC

https://imgur.com/a/geMjsId

Check my work Jim, 2-3 interruptions (phone calls) during this quick work-up.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:03 pm

I'll check when i can. The aspects look great. It would be more convincing if there were solid anvle contacts.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:22 pm

JFK Assassination
DC Q2 Sun/Regulus 11/22/1963 1:30 PM
Note:Q2 Moon partile cnj Q2 Mars
t. Sun partile 90 DC Sun/Regulus Aug 22 1963
t. Neptune partile cnj Q2 IC
Q2 for Assassination:
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:15 pm

Double-checking as requested: Sun-Regulus conjunction before Lincoln Assasination
SteveS wrote:
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Moon 180 (1,13) Saturn, Sun partile 90 Mars
Exactly. These are good. I do wish there were a relevant close angularity.

There is one bizarrely precise transit, though - so exact (as if setting off the chart) but, by itself, not saying anything specific. At the moment Lincoln died, transiting Moon at 21°06' Scorpio was 0°10' from this chart's Ascendant for Washington.
April 14 1865 DC Q2 10:15 PM for the day Lincoln was shot.

Q2 Sun partile 90 Q2 MC, with Sun partile 90 Mars with Mars 1,20 cnj Q2 MC
Enough to say, "It's about the king" (notice that it is Sun-Regulus square MC btw). I'd have liked better a transiting Mars than a natal Mars, but it's quite good looking a it as "the Sun-Mars square from the original chart came right to the angles."

This is a little hard to assess. On the one hand, Sun-Mars sounds exactly right for "violence against the king." OTOH while Sun-Saturn combinations are extremely common for leader deaths, Sun-Mars aspects are not. I am inclined, though, to take this as a pretty good showing.

I don't know whether to make anything of the fact that the Q2 Moon had just entered Aries (0°12' Aries). This would be important in an ingress because it would also mean that Moon also aspected Sun (which would be at 0° cardinal); but I don't know if we should regard it as meaning anything special here.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:32 pm

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Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:22 pm
JFK Assassination
In the Sun-Regulus conjunction we have Moon conjunct Mars 2°44'. In DC, Neptune is conjunct WP 0°50' and Sun widely square Asc (2°23') - not bad.

For Dallas, nothing is angular but Moon opposes Jupiter 0°02' in mundo.

Transits to the DC chart had Sun barely conjunct Dsc (1°59') and transiting Neptune on WP 1°56'. (Oh, I see you have these below.)
DC Q2 Sun/Regulus 11/22/1963 1:30 PM
Note:Q2 Moon partile cnj Q2 Mars
t. Sun partile 90 DC Sun/Regulus Aug 22 1963
t. Neptune partile cnj Q2 IC
Yes, progressed Moon-Mars conjunction 0°09' and Q2 MC op. t Neptune 0°58'. No angularities for Dallas.

That Moon-Mars progression is quite impressive!
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Gandhi's murder

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:45 pm

Sun-Regulus conjunction 8/23/47, 7"03"07 AM IST, New Delhi, India
Moon sq. Mercury (0°56') and Venus (2°07') - not fitting. Nothing angular.

Transits 1/30/48, 5:12 PM IST, New Delhi, India
t Venus conj. r Dsc 1°52' - not fitting

Q2 for murder
p MC sq. t Saturn 1°56', r Mercury 0°56' - Much better!

I note that Gandhi may be a poor example. His innate humility may be inconsistent with Regulus symbolism.
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Nixon's resignation

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 20, 2018 5:54 pm

Sun-Regulus conjunction August 22, 1973, 11:30:55 PM EDT, Washington, DC
Jupiter on MC 0°12' (plus very widely foreground Mars & Neptune)
This was not a year when "the king" prospered and was exalted in Washington, DC, though this is what the chart suggests.

No transits for the resignation.

Q2 has:
p Moon sq. p Venus 0°16'
p MC op. t Venus 0°55', sq. t Uranus 1°42'
p Asc sq. t Mercury 0°29'

Not exactly impressive.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:45 am

Jim wrote:
I do wish there were a relevant close angularity.
Me too, makes me think one or two things.

1: The star's arc position is off several seconds. Do you entirely trust the sourced astronomy SF is using for the star's SZ position down to the exact second of arc?

2: Reverting back to your ISR guideline: When we find nothing close to the angles we rely heavily on Moon aspects allowing wider orbs in the radical chart, but partile 0,90,180 Moon aspects reign supreme. And maybe in the Regulus radical charts, we allow special attention on partile Sun 0,90,180 malefic aspects since we are dealing with Presidents, heads of states, kings, royalty and so forth.

A reserved conclusion with our limited research: ‘IF’ we are to accept the Sun/Regulus radical charts as a valid mundane chart for accessing ‘special’ death dangers to Presidents, I think we pay special attention to partile 0,90,180 Sun aspects to Mars & Saturn. And, when we see the p. Moon in the radical Regular chart close to a partile malefic 0,90,180 during the annual time frame, maybe pay more attention to the time frame when the aspect is partile. Actually, a no brainer.

I did note in the Sun/Regulus JFK Q chart there was a loose Saturn-Neptune rotational square, which is the par-excellent symbolic combo for “removals” for heads of states. I will press on with the other chart times/examples for Sun/Regulus radical charts when other important heads of state are murdered while occupying the office.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:58 am

SteveS wrote:
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1: The star's arc position is off several seconds. Do you entirely trust the sourced astronomy SF is using for the star's SZ position down to the exact second of arc?
That's an insightful question. My best answer is that this is a simple enough astronomical problem that anyone who has solved all the other math necessary to create Solar Fire surely should have it right. (It's like imagining they have Venus' longitude off, but much easier.)

I'm wondering if I have a way to check it. (If I had a copy of The Nautical Almanac out of storage, for a particular year, then it would be an easy check.) Let's try this, presuming the secondary source is accurate: Wikipedia lists Regulus A's position for 2000.0 as

RA 10:08:22.311 (152°05'35")
Dec 11N58'01"95"

(Regulus B is slightly different and, BTW, that makes a difference.) It's a little confusing because they head this data with the dual labels "Epoch J2000" and "Equinox J2000" which I take to mean different things (one as the beginning of 2000, one as vernal equinox northern hemisphere 2000)... but let's just keep going and see what we get.

For the UT beginning of 2000 (close enough the Besselian beginning), Solar Fire gives Regulus as 5°05'26" Leo, but that's all we have to the second of arc. It gives RA 152°05' which matches the above except for a rounding error (it may be truncating), Declination 11N58. These appear to be a match. If I recalculate for vernal equinox 2000 the (rounding?) error disappears and we get RA 152°06', latitude 11N58.

So, as far as we can take it, it's a match. The underlying data they would need is available enough that it would seem very strange for them to have messed it up. To put it differently: Even though they only display the RA and Dec to the minute of arc, they are definitely calculating it to the second or better and then rounding - there's no other reasonable way to do it.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Wed Nov 21, 2018 7:46 am

I trust your expert analysis Jim for correct arc second star's position. I will allow primary symbolic emphasis to be placed on partile 0,90,180 Sun aspects with these DC Sun/Regulus charts with the Sun only symbolizing the President. Of course, I will allow angular pv mundane squares with Sun and malefics. Thanks Jim, I am in learning mode and your analysis is of great help with me and this thread.

So far, In this thread, I have only seen one chart with acute angular symbolism, and that was DC's 1929 Sun/Sirius radical with Moon-Mercury-Saturn, with partile 180 Moon-Saturn.

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Post by SteveS » Thu Nov 22, 2018 5:32 am

Sun/Regulus DC Radical Chart: Aug 22 1901, 1:47:55 AM EST (President McKinley Murder):

https://imgur.com/a/Nrqitlq

Noting mundo Saturn 2,39 cnj DSC, partile Sun-Moon 90. 0,90,180 Sun-Moon aspects are indicative of meaningful events, and with Saturn angular in this Sun/Regulus chart, we read a Saturn themed event.

Now for the Q2 chart for the shooting Sept 6 1901 4:07 PM.

https://imgur.com/a/VsKI5OW

Noting: Q Sun 1 minute exact 90 Q Moon for the shooting event. Saturn partile cnj West Point in RA, partile 90 Q MC. Q Mars 2,17 cnj Nadir. Angular Mars and Saturn with this Q chart is par-excellent symbolism for the shooting. McKinley died 8 days later on Sept 14 from two gunshot wounds to the stomach.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Thu Nov 22, 2018 7:49 am

Sun/Regulus Sidereal Principles & Symbolism for the Assassination of President James A. Garfield. They are absolutely remarkable! After reviewing this Sun/Regulus radical chart and the extensions to this radical chart for the shooting, I now have no doubts in my mind the Sun/Regulus radical chart with its extension Sidereal Astrology Principles charts can foretell very malefic events (death) to rulers/presidents of nations. Somehow the ancient astrologers of earliest times knew Regulus symbolized any ruler of a nation.

First, the Sun/Regulus radical chart for DC the year of Garfield’s Assassination:

https://imgur.com/a/NdxKkl9

Note the Sun (President Garfield) receives a partile 120 from Saturn and a partile 90 from Pluto! With Jim’s book on Sidereal Mundane Astrology he has proven Pluto has to do with stunning/shocking mundane events. And we all know the symbolic effects of Saturn partile aspected to the Sun in this radical Sun/Regulus chart. Jim’s teachings has always told us how important the Moon is with Sidereal Astrology charting. Note the tight 180 Moon throws to Venus-Uranus in this radical chart. But more importantly, note that p. Sun/Regulus Moon will form a partile 180 to Sun/Regulus Mars within Sun/Regulus annual time period. Garfield was shot on July 2 1881 at 9:30 AM in DC. Below is the link to Sun/Regulus Q chart for July 2 1881 9:30 AM. It is astounding!

https://imgur.com/a/BSol66w

Note the partile 180 of Q Moon to Q Mars, tightly near the Q MC/IC axis! This chart so much reminds me of my Q chart which I posted not long ago with Q Moon partile 180 Q Mars on the exact day my Q MC/IC axis, when shots were fired at me with an attempted robbery with me making a large $ deposit as acting manger of a Multi-Plex Theater. Luckily, I had some prominent Jupiter going on with other charts, and was not murdered in this god awful Moon-Mars Q day I experienced in my life. Remember, JFK was murdered in a time frame when his Sun/Regulus progression for his assassination featured a partile Sun/Regulus p. Moon-Mars conjunction!

The transits for the day of Garfield’s shooting are no less remarkable!

https://imgur.com/a/KitsqF5

Note the Mars-Saturn conjunction in the heavens on the day of Garfield’s shooting (outside wheel), with t. Saturn partile cnj Sun/Regulus IC (inside wheel), with t. Mars 1,32 cnj Sun/Regulus IC.
Folks, we have Mr. James A. Eshelman to thank for teaching us the Principles of Sidereal Mundane Astrology, and for figuring out a way to get the exact transit of Sun down to the exact second of arc for a fixed Star with Solarfire, making it possible to explore t. Sun exact cnj a fixed Star, in this case Regulus ruling rulers of nations! This is a huge learning discovery in my astrology life and was timed by my current SLR below with SLR inside wheel and Natal outside wheel, proving again that “Timing is Everything!” Thank you Jim for working with me on this thread.

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Note in my current SLR, mundo Mercury is partile cnj my SLR Asc for learning and for me personally, a clear “Messenger from the Gods.” My Natal Moon partile cnj Mercury for an ‘outstanding incident’ SLR! Jim teaches us when our Natal Planets fall near or on Return Chart Angles, it shows how we will react to the Return itself. In my case I react as a very important personal (Sun) discovery (Uranus) in my Sidereal Astrology life. Note my Natal Sun on my SLR MC partile 90 my Natal Uranus cnj SLR West Point. This is the kind of stuff which floats my Sidereal Astrology Boat! :)

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:11 pm

Steve, this is pretty astounding! You're definitely on to something here.

I don't suppose you could find the next devastating "Lock him up!" symbolism in a Sun-Regulus conjunction for the U.S.? It would be an enormous favor to the world <vbg>.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:13 pm

I wonder if this is too much of a stretch of the use of this chart:

Can we read the 2016 Sun-Regulus conjunction as "What happened to the presidency itself?" Sun-Regulus squares Ascendant 0°33'. We then have:

MC 18°07' Leo
Neptune 15°57' Aquarius
(Antares 15°01' Scorpio)
Saturn 14°53' Scorpio
Mars 14°01' Scorpio

On August 22, 2017 we got the successor chart with continued erosion and confusion: Neptune 0°21' from EP with numerous other planets adding to it. In fact, we're on a Neptune role, where we have to concern ourselves with what else in addition to Neptune is angular in these charts. For 2018 we get Neptune 0°53' from MC, Saturn 2°27' from Dsc (mundane square is a little wide, 3°20'). Moon conjoins Mars 0°06' in mundo and progressed Moon reaches Mars ecliptically beginning in the next few days, reaching peak at Christmas Day 2018.

The 2019 chart then shows a change. Nothing is so close. A Jupiter-Neptune square is most angular but not so close. Moon squares Sun, Venus, and Mars, and will reach all of them by progression.

2020 is then back to stark confusion and disruption. Neptune is 0°54' from IC. Moon squares (with different degrees of closeness ecliptically and mundanely) Jupiter, Saturn, and Pluto. Election Day, progressed Moon will be partile square Pluto.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:46 pm

FYI, I just posted the following on the Solunars page of Facebook:

One of my Solunars.com colleagues, SteveS, has been doing some fascinating work on the site using charts for the exact conjunction of Sun with specific fixed stars as mundane charts. It’s still in the early stages, but some of the results have been very impressive. It appears that these charts exist as “radical” by themselves and highly responsive to transits and progressions (including quotidian angles). I want to give you a couple of examples and then mention a serious threat that one of these charts shows to the current U.S. president in the near future. You can follow the thread from the beginning here: https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2684

This week, Steve has been examining the Sun-Regulus conjunction (hereafter called the “Regulus chart”) for deaths or other destructive crises of national leaders. For example, for the Kennedy assassination the Regulus chart had Sun and Neptune on angles and a Moon-Mars conjunction that progressed to 0°09' for the death. For President Garfield’s murder, the Regulus chart was primed with Sun partile aspecting Saturn and Pluto, then, again, an exact progressed Moon-Mars opposition (0°42') fell exactly on progressed (i.e., quotidian) angles and a transiting Mars-Saturn conjunction fell on the chart’s IC. And so forth.

If these charts are valid, they do not seem to show the PROSPERITY of the president. For example, the Regulus chart before Nixon’s resignation had an unafflicted Jupiter on MC. He hardly had a prosperous presidency! Astrologically vivid outcomes have been clearer for matters of the “ruler’s” person more than office.

I mention this now because his research made me wonder what these charts show for the well-being of the current president. I calculated the current Sun-Regulus conjunction, which occurred August 23, 2018, 2:07:51 AM EDT. Set it up for Washington, DC. I notice Neptune 0°53' from MC, Saturn 2°27' from Dsc. Saturn-Neptune combinations for presidents and kings are famous for marking abdications, resignations, removals, exclusions, and, more broadly, gruesome emotional suffering. Furthermore, Moon conjoins Mars 0°06' in mundo and progressed Moon reaches Mars ecliptically in the next few days, reaching peak (0°00’) at Christmas Day 2018.

Consider this a test of these charts. If the Sun-Regulus conjunction is indeed a viable chart for this type of prediction, then President Trump will meet an extreme, even disabling crisis at roughly Christmas Day, 2018. (Though Moon-Mars progressions have been exact for assassinations in the past, it doesn’t mean that every such Moon-Mars progression, like the one peaking December 25, will result in a murder.)
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:37 am

2018 Sun/Regulus Radical Chart

https://imgur.com/a/1Yeav5z

:o , I was going to ask you this morning for the time for 2018 Sun/Regulus chart. This 2018 Sun/Regulus chart is going to be a great test chart to see if Trump experiences any of the very harsh symbolism. I think Trump is already experiencing a-lot of its negative symbolism with election results and new attacks from other political sources. But that partile cnj Sun/Regulus p. Moon-Mars Xmas will be a supreme test. Also, we have a partile Moon-Mars in the Libsolar. We see the repeating angular Saturn-Neptune in the Sun/Regulus chart as in his current SSR, for potent “removal” influences. Also in Dec t-Saturn partile cnj his SSR Asc and partile 180 his SSR Moon. Very interesting Jim. Do you think Muller will ever be able to indict Trump? Is there a Grand Jury convened looking into Muller’s investigation on Trump? Can/will the House bring Trump up on impeachment charges, even knowing the Senate would more than likely vote against impeachment?

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Nov 23, 2018 6:57 am

I don't think the House will impeach unless they have support in the Senate, especially if Pelosi is confirmed as Speaker. That means that either there would b a shift of power in the Senate for reasons not yet known or the evidence against Trump is so overwhelming and egregious that Republican senators are lined up to vote against him.

No, I don't think Mueller will indict DT while Trump is in office because the FBI has an explicit policy/interpretation that a sitting president, in its opinion, cannot be indicted. Mueller is bound to follow that and, besides, his supervisor(s) will follow it. However, he can (and I think will) find ways to get his report to Congress, and I think he has a couple of other tricks. Personally, I think his best shot is to line up the evidence against Trump and then pivot and indict Trump's sons. This will deliver a sharp gut-blow that might get Trump to deal, plus it will likely (ahem) require that the evidence against Trump be disclosed because it's also evidence against the son(s).
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:23 am

All I know is: Trump has a very malefic SSR. Two years ago I posted if Trump ever was going to be "removed" from office, the greatest threat would come with his Saturn-Neptune themed 2018 SSR. And now we see an angular Saturn-Neptune Sun/Regulus themed chart with that huge Moon-Mars progression looming. :shock:

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Nov 23, 2018 7:46 am

You motivated me to look ahead toward Christmas to see what other conventional mundane techniques might have to say. I notice that we have a Mars-Neptune conjunction during part of December, and this might end up showing on something or other.

The December 11 Caplunar has Saturn rising (2°39'), Uranus on IC (1°52'), and a Saturn-Uranus mundane square 0°47'. Tense, difficult, something breaks. There is also what boils down to a Venus-Pluto effect in mundo:

Moon-Pluto conj. 3°10'
Moon-Venus sq. 2°41'
Venus-Pluto sq. 0°30'

The December 17 Arilunar is primarily a Uranus chart.

That brings us to the December 24 (Christmas Eve) Canlunar. It's a really nice chart. Venus rises in Libra. The one sneak is a mundane aspect one doesn't see unless one goes looking for it, a wide-ish Moon-Pluto opposition. One wouldn't expect a violent event to come out of this.

But, looking a little further - to the December 30 Liblunar - we get Mars rising (1°45'), Neptune just above Ascendant, and Moon opposite Uranus.

A slightly earlier Mars effect occurs - I would have caught it doing the new monthly forecast, but hadn't seen it yet. Mars transits across Cansolar Dsc December 26, opposing the rising Cansolar Moon December 27. There's a good chance these terribly important Bridge aspects will have a strong effect. Also, back on Christmas itself, transiting Sun conjoins Capsolar Saturn exactly on Capsolar IC!

So there are about three days - December 25-27 - that do concentrate a great deal of critical (assaultive, even) attention to the White House.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:44 am

The 116th Congress should be seated on January 3rd, probably around Noon after being sworn in, barring shenanigans by the current Congress.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:38 am

Yes, that's obvious trouble for him. It's still technically in range. But this seems much more concentrated in the earluer week.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:44 am

So he's going to hate his presents.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Nov 23, 2018 9:49 am

Just broke: Jerome Corsi (a Trump and Stone associate) is in plea negotiations with Mueller.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:30 am

Jim, I ordered an update to SF 9(disk), should receive by end of week. I hope to get up to par with you on calculating Sun transits to fixed stars. :)

In the meantime, could you post me the time for the Sun transit Regulus for London in 1913 & 1914? Thanks.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Nov 26, 2018 8:40 am

You may be surpassing me, since I', only on 8 :)

Are you looking for the start of World War I which, for England, was August 4? Sure.

August 22, 1913, 8:32:48 AM UT
August 22, 1914, 2:38:21 PM UT

Was there a monarch issue that year, or are you looking at the start of WW I? The Q2 of the 1913 chart has one starkly right factor: For the moment war was declared, transiting Mars was 0°09' from the London Q2 Ascendant. (This was actually a war-tending Venus-Mars conjunction on Asc, but with Mars closer.) But there isn't that much else - the chart itself, e.g., has Jupiter exactly angular.
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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by SteveS » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:15 am

Jim wrote:
You may be surpassing me, since I', only on 8.
I will never surpass you :) . What I fear, I will surpass my mental capabilities for getting all my customized tweaks implemented into version 9. I hate upgrades, because I don’t have the technical savvy to tweak all of my customized functions. But, I have got to have those exact Sun transits to the fixed stars to study some history.
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Are you looking for the start of World War I which, for England…
Yes, the Total Solar Eclipse shadow over England Aug 21 1914 tightly cnj Regulus intrigues me. But I want to look at the mundane charts for London when Sun exactly cnj Regulus in 1913 & 1914. I note there is a tight Saturn-Pluto cnj in the heavens on Aug 21 1914. We may also need to look at the exact Sun transit to Sirius in London for WW1, since the exact Sun transit to Sirius in London 1939 (WW11) featured Saturn-Pluto combo on the angles. We have another Saturn-Pluto cnj approaching in 2020-2021 :( .
Jim wrote:
Was there a monarch issue that year…
I think the Ferdinand assassination in Sarajevo June 28 1914 kick-- started WW1, but not sure.
Jim wrote:
The Q2 of the 1913 chart has one starkly right factor: For the moment war was declared, transiting Mars was 0°09' from the London Q2 Ascendant. (This was actually a war-tending Venus-Mars conjunction on Asc, but with Mars closer.)
Interesting! WW1 was one hellish war with millions loosing life, fitting symbolism for Saturn-Pluto.

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Re: Transiting Sun exact conjunct Sirius each year.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:51 am

SteveS wrote:
Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:15 am
I will never surpass you :) . What I fear, I will surpass my mental capabilities for getting all my customized tweaks implemented into version 9. I hate upgrades, because I don’t have the technical savvy to tweak all of my customized functions. But, I have got to have those exact Sun transits to the fixed stars to study some history.
Before you upgrade, copy your Solar Fire User Files folder to another safe location. Then install all the way to the end. Then copy the saved User Files folder on top of the newly installed one. It should carry all (most? probably all) of your tweaks over.

In the worst case (if SF 9 isn't as flexible as early versions), this will break SF, in which case you can uninstall it and then reinstall it to get a clean copy. User support may then be able to help you move your customizations. But odds are close to 100% that what I first told you (immediately above) will take care of it.
I think the Ferdinand assassination in Sarajevo June 28 1914 kick-- started WW1, but not sure.
Right. It was under the 1913 chart. Here's the thread that gives the data and mundane analysis of that event: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=1996

Particularly see the Arisolar (Quarter) and Canlunar (Week), then transiting Mars conjunct CapQ Moon + Saturn on a CanQ angle for the day.
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