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November 2021 events

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:22 am

Beginning a bit late.

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Eight killed in crush at Astroworld music festival

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:51 am

November 5, 2021 9:15 PM CDT
Astroworld Music Festival, Houston, TX
50,000 people in attendance

Rapper Travis Scott saw the crowd pushing up to the stage and stopped his performance and called security several times because some people were "in distress." The situation suddenly escalated, and people began passing out.

At least 7 are dead, 17 taken to hospital, 11 in cardiac arrest and dozens treated at an aide station at the venue.

Earlier in the day, crowds at the festival had rushed to a VIP area, knocking over fences and reportedly trampling some people who fell but no serious injuries were reported at the time.

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Re: Eight killed in crush at Astroworld music festival

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:45 am

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:51 am
November 5, 2021 9:15 PM CDT
Astroworld Music Festival, Houston, TX
50,000 people in attendance

Rapper Travis Scott saw the crowd pushing up to the stage and stopped his performance and called security several times because some people were "in distress." The situation suddenly escalated, and people began passing out.

At least 7 are dead, 17 taken to hospital, 11 in cardiac arrest and dozens treated at an aide station at the venue.
November 5, 2021, 9:15 PM CDT, Houston, TX (29N40'56", 95W24'31")
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroworl ... rowd_crush

Casualties are now listed as at least 8, with at least 23 people hospitalized and over 300 people treated onsite for some kind of injury. The coordinates I give are those of NRG Park, which is where the Astroworld Festival is held each year.

Astrologically we at least expect Neptune as a factor for the mob scene and panic (probably at the Day level), probably with other malefics. (NOTE: Having now run the charts, I see not a single Neptune.) First up, though, I already remember that Houston is one of the areas in the U.S. where the Capsolar's Sun-Pluto conjunction is angular.

Year: Capsolar {+2 at least}
Pluto on Dsc 0°45'
Sun on Dsc 1°39'
-- Sun-Pluto co. 0°23'

Bridge {+1}
t Pluto op. Capsolar Dsc 1°06'

Quarter: Libsolar {+2}
Mercury on IC 2°25'
Pluto on Dsc 4°33'
Moon & Mars widely angular
-- Mercury-Pluto sq. 2°08' M
-- Mars-Pluto sq. 2°37'
-- Pluto sq. non-foreground Sun 2°42'
-- Mars co. non-foreground Sun 2°47' M

Month: Caplunar {+2}
(This certainly zeroed in on the spot! It shows great violence.)
Sun on EP 0°01'
Mars on Asc 2°09' (EP 1°17')
Moon, Mercury, & Pluto more widely foreground
-- Moon-Pluto co. 0°43'
-- Sun-Mars co. 1°45'

Week: Liblunar (Silent.) Moon-Mercury Moon-Pluto.

Week: Canlunar {+2}
Mars on Dsc 0°45'
Sun on Dsc 3°07' [sq. non-foreground Saturn 2°22']
Mercury, Uranus, & Pluto widely foreground
-- Uranus-Pluto sq. 1°10' M
Moon-Pluto op. 0°37'
Moon-Uranus sq. 0°58' M

NOTE: A background Venus-Jupiter sq. 0°50' exists only in mundo so it distinguishes the location. Such non-foreground aspects don't define the basic tone of an event but adds details - in this case, evidently meaning that circumstances are in a social-entertainment setting.

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
p MC co. s Saturn 1°27', s Mars 2°01'
p EP co. s Uranus 0°30', op. t Mars 1°47'
-- s Mars-Saturn sq. 0°34'
-- t Mars op. s Mars 0°33'
-- NOTE: t Mars set off the worst aspect in the Capsolar. FWIW it was even closer to p Mars.
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t Pluto op. s Dsc 1°06'

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits (Silent.)


Of supplemental interest:

Day: Arisolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
p Asc co. t Saturn 0°01'
p MC sq. t Jupiter 0°06'
-- t Moon op. p Moon 0°05'
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t Pluto op. s EP-a -1°05'
t Saturn op. s Asc +0°52'
t Mercury op. s MC +0°17'
-- t Mercury-Saturn co-angularity 0°35'

Day: Libsolar Quotidian {+2}
p Asc sq. t Mars 0°44', op. s Saturn 1°49'
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Re: Eight killed in crush at Astroworld music festival

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Nov 06, 2021 9:37 am

November 5, 2021, 9:15 PM CDT, Houston, TX (29N40'56", 95W24'31")

Since I have time and opportunity this morning, I want to compare the above results from Solar Fire to some of the results generated by Mike's TMSA program. We already know that there are small discrepancies in calculated times of ingresses and returns and we think this is because TMSA is using a slightly more up-to-date astronomy code than Solar Fire 8. How much is the difference?
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Year: Capsolar
Pluto on Dsc 0°45'
Sun on Dsc 1°39'
-- Sun-Pluto co. 0°34'
Capsolar 6:32:30 PM (SF) vs. 6:33:01 PM (TMSA). Minor differences: Pluto 0°38', Sun 1°32' from Dsc.

BTW, Eris is also angular, a mere 0°05' from Zenith making this a Sun-Pluto-Eris trio.
Quarter: Libsolar
Mercury on IC 2°25'
Pluto on Dsc 4°33'
Moon & Mars widely angular
-- Mercury-Pluto sq. 2°08'
Since I have both here, I'll mention that the Cansolar is 0:00:17 different between the programs.

The Libsolar is 12:03:54 AM (SF) vs. 12:04:18 AM (TMSA). No practical difference. - However, it reminds me of a benefit of a program like this: I actually missed several aspects (which I'll now go back to the prior post and correct). Including these aspects (visible in both programs, if I'd only looked) makes a big difference in the Libsolar's rating (from 0 to +2).
Month: Caplunar {+2}
Sun on EP 0°01'
Mars on Asc 2°09' (EP 1°17')
Moon, Mercury, & Pluto more widely foreground
-- Moon-Pluto co. 0°43'
-- Sun-Mars co. 1°45'
7:07:42 AM (SF) vs. 7:07:53 (TMSA). Tiny difference that still keeps Sun 0°01' from the angle. With the 11s difference, Mars slips 0°02' closer to the angle.
Week: Liblunar (Silent.) Moon-Mercury Moon-Pluto.
11:49:29 AM (SF) vs. 11:49:40 (TMSA), again 11s different. Small, but worth noting that it's there.

TMSA correctly labelled this a dormant ingress.
Week: Canlunar {+2}
Mars on Dsc 0°45'
Sun on Dsc 3°07' [sq. non-foreground Saturn 2°22']
Mercury, Uranus, & Pluto widely foreground
-- Uranus-Pluto sq. 1°10' M
Moon-Pluto op. 0°37'
Moon-Uranus sq. 0°58' M

NOTE: A background Venus-Jupiter sq. 0°50' exists only in mundo so it distinguishes the location. Such non-foreground aspects don't define the basic tone of an event but adds details - in this case, evidently meaning that circumstances are in a social-entertainment setting.
6:20:38 PM (SF) vs. 6:20:50 PM (TMSA). The 12s difference essentially matches the two 11s differences from the other lunar ingresses and seems too much of a coincidence - I'll draw Mike's attention to this (but I think we've already ruled out small factors like nutation that might give this consistent a displacement - it's probably just the slight improvement in the Moon algorithm since SF8 came out).

Everything else is close enough to make no practical difference, e.g., Mars 0°48' from the angle instead of 0°45'.
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Re: Eight killed in crush at Astroworld music festival

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:45 am

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Sat Nov 06, 2021 8:45 am
November 5, 2021 9:15 PM CDT
Astroworld Music Festival, Houston, TX
50,000 people in attendance

Astrologically we at least expect Neptune as a factor for the mob scene and panic (probably at the Day level), probably with other malefics. (NOTE: Having now run the charts, I see not a single Neptune.)

Month: Caplunar {+2}
(This certainly zeroed in on the spot! It shows great violence.)
Watching tv interviews with people at the venue, several said they were "pushed" or "shoved" from behind. One woman said she was shoved and knocked down. All of these people were light-skinned. Darker-skinned people were excited or upset, but none felt they were targeted.
I think this was a different kind of event than the ones that feature Neptune.

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Re: November 2021 events

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:52 am

I think you're right. It does sound increasingly like a Mars event.

The Capsolar had that powerful Mars-Saturn square, angular for the nation. Transiting Mars was exactly setting it off, and while this wasn't within 1° of Houston's angles, it was within 2°, which seems to be equally strong. The loudest message was Mars.
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Julius Jones Sentence Commuted

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:45 am

Julius Jones sentence was commuted to life in prison without parole at about 12:15 PM Central today November 18, 2021 by Oklahoma gov Kevin Stitt. He was scheduled to be executed at 4PM today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Darius_Jones

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The Build Back Better Bill passes the House

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:45 am

November 19, 2021 9:41 AM Washington DC the Build Back bettre bill passed the house

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Rittenhouse not guilty on all counts

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:16 am

Rittenhouse not guilty on all counts 12:14 PM Kenosha WI

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Rittenhouse verdict

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:40 pm

November 19, 2021, Kenosha, WI: Kyle RIttenhouse was found not guilty on all charges. News broke from multiple sources minute or two after 10:40 PST = 12:40 CST. Jupiter rose just before this.

In the past we have seen the outcome of trials primarily reflect (in astrological symbolism) the lenience or severity of the jury. Is that what we'll see here? - For the most part, yes, it is - from the main pattern of the year down to the day and even the hour.

Year: Capsolar {+2}
Benefics & malefics are both angular, but benefics more so.
Jupiter on Dsc 0°06'
Uranus on Z 0°54'
Saturn on Dsc 2°39'
Mars on Z 2°01'
Mercury on Dsc 3°25'
Moon, Moon, Eris widely foreground
-- Mars-Saturn sq. 0°34'
-- Jupiter-Uranus sq. 0°42'
-- Moon-Eris sq. 0°59' M
-- Mars-Jupiter sq. 2°13'
-- Jupiter-Saturn co. 2°33' M
-- Mars-Uranus co. 2°55'

Bridge (None.)

Quarter: Libsolar (Silent.)
Quarter: Cansolar (Silent.)

Quarter: Arisolar {+1? +2?}
Uranus on MC 2°14'
Venus, Jupiter, Saturn widely foreground
-- Saturn-Uranus sq. 2°34'
-- Venus-Saturn sq. 2°54' M
Moon-Jupiter sq. 1°37'

Month: Caplunar {?}
Saturn on Asc 1°10'
Uranus on N 1°21'
Sedna on IC 1°51'
Moon, Jupiter, Pluto more widely foreground
-- Moon-Pluto co. 0°27'
-- Saturn-Sedna sq. 0°41'
Moon-Eris sq. 1°02'

Week: Arilunar
Saturn on EP 0°17'
Venus on Asc 2v36'
Mars & Uranus widely foreground
-- Mars-Uranus op. 0°45'
Moon-Pluto sq. 0°19'
Moon-Eris co. 1°06'

Day: Capsolar Quotidian {+2}
p MC co. t Jupiter 1°13', sq. t Mercury 0°34'
p Asc sq. t Neptune 1°23'
p EP-a op. t Sun 0°14'
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Re: Rittenhouse not guilty on all counts

Post by Danica » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:23 am

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
Fri Nov 19, 2021 10:16 am
Rittenhouse not guilty on all counts 12:14 PM Kenosha WI
Is this now considered a case-closed, or is there an action taken - or possible to be taken - further, toward exposure of the involved criminal people and for Justice to be administered?

Also, if someone knows the birth data of Bruce Schroeder (I don't hope for full data with the time, only the date & place will work - full data is always preferred if obtainable, of course), or can point me to where online such info can be looked up to be found, please communicate it.
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Re: Rittenhouse not guilty on all counts

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:34 am

Danica wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:23 am
Is this now considered a case-closed, or is there an action taken - or possible to be taken - further, toward exposure of the involved criminal people and for Justice to be administered?
This case is closed. Done deal. - It's always possible, though, that there would be Federal charge but, given the testimony at the trial, I doubt they would get a conviction so DoJ may not file.
Also, if someone knows the birth data of Bruce Schroeder (I don't hope for full data with the time, only the date & place will work - full data is always preferred if obtainable, of course), or can point me to where online such info can be looked up to be found, please communicate it.
Since Wikipedia doesn't have it, the information probably isn't readily available. You might have to track down birth records on your own. He was born in 1945 or '46 in Milwaukee.

I suppose his birth data is on file with the Wisconsin Bar Association, but I don't know if it's open to the public. - I just checked, and there is no birth date (probably blocked as a protection against identity theft). The number at the end of the link is his Bar card number. Ah, but this entry gives his personal email address so you could always write and ask him.
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Re: November 2021 events

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:39 pm

Rittenhouse or his mother or uncle can still be sued for killing people I believe.

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Re: November 2021 events

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Nov 21, 2021 4:44 pm

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
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Rittenhouse or his mother or uncle can still be sued for killing people I believe.
Yes, there can be civil suits.
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Smashing Christmas Parades

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:41 am

About 4:40 PM November 21, 2021 in Washkeska, Wi, a red SUV plowed into a Christmas parade, killing 5 and injuring at least 40. The whole parade was all of 60 people. The driver did it on purpose. He'd been arrested earlier this week and let out on $2000 bail for domestic abuse.

Wisconsin is having a moment.

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Smashing Asteroids.

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:06 pm

1:20 AM Eastern time NASA is launching a satellite intending to crash it into an asteroid and alter the asteroid's trajectory. This is being done to find out if it might work if we ever needed it.

But all the asteroid users might want to find out what is about to happen, in case asteroids actually have an astrological influences.

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Re: Smashing Asteroids.

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:18 pm

ROFL. And such confusion this is going to cause those astrologers! - because the launch chart for Cape Canaveral has Neptune exactly setting.

Moon opposes Pluto 0°02' (mundanely) so something is going to go bye-bye.

Do you know what asteroid it is?
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Re: Smashing Asteroids

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:22 pm

Elon Musk's SpaceX is launching NASA's Double Asteroid Redirection Test (or DART) mission on a Falcon 9 rocket from Vandenberg Space Force Base in California, with a liftoff window that begins at 1:20 a.m. ET on Wednesday.

DART is a 610-kilogram spacecraft that will spend 10 months traveling to a pair of asteroids, which are named Didymos and Dimorphos. Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory in Maryland built DART, while space company Redwire contributed the spacecraft’s navigation and solar arrays that will power it.

The goal of the mission is to hit the smaller of the two asteroids, Dimorphos, with the spacecraft at about 15,000 miles per hour and see how the impact changes the asteroid’s trajectory.

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Re: November 2021 events

Post by SteveS » Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:31 am

Very interesting.

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Ahmaud Arbery verdict reached

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:52 am

The trial on the murder of Ahmaud Arbery has reached verdict.
November 24, 2021
1:36 PM to 1:38 PM Travis McMichel (the son) guilty on all 9 counts.
1:39 PM Greg McMichel (the father) guilty on all but malice murder.
1:41PM William Bryan not guilty on malice murder, guilty on a couple of the five counts of felony murder, and guilty of everything else.

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Bulgaria bus crash

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:15 pm

Nov 23, 2021, 2:00 AM (0:00 GMT), near Bosnek, Bulgaria 42N29'27" 23E07'53"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-59383852
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Bulgaria_bus_crash

A tourist bus from Istanbul rammed a crash barrier and caught fire. At least 46 people were killed, including 12 children. Seven people escaped the bus alive and needed treatment for burns. BBC said 2 AM. While BBC said Sofia, Wikipedia says it was "near the Bulgarian village of Bosnek"; I think it was simply a little more exact. This is the deadliest vehicular accident in Europe in a long time.

I have moved this to its own thread:
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Michigan School Shooting

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:19 pm

November 30, 2021, 12:51 PM, Oxford High School, Oxford Charter Township, MI 42N50'17" 83W15'40"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Hi ... l_shooting

Oxford High School north of Detroit. By a 15-year-old student with a semiautomatic handgun.

Three students (ages 14 to 17) died. Six more are badly wounded. They and two others (one a teacher) were all were shot within five minutes. The time above is from the first 911 call. UPDATE 12/1: 4 deaths.

For this event, I'm going to run the charts I can from TMSA, adjust the times for charts calculated from Solar Fire, then run the quotidians and transits from SF. Jupiter was most angular at the time of the first 911 call (1°08' above Asc) and check for PVP aspects from SF.

Some of the charts are mixed and confused, but enough of them are right on the mark to be quite impressive.

Year: Capsolar {0}
There's too much going on in this chart. I can't actually call it descriptive with what we know now. It's a mix of fitting and unfitting details.
Mercury on Dsc 0°03'
Sun on WP 1°32'
Pluto on WP 1°55'
Moon, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, & Uranus more widely foreground
-- Sun-Pluto co. 0°23'
-- Mars-Saturn sq. 0°34'
-- Jupiter-Uranus sq. 0°42'
-- Moon-Mars sq. 1°50' M
-- Mars-Jupiter sq. 2°13'
-- Jupiter-Saturn co. 2°29' M
-- Mars-Uranus co. 2°55'
-- Mercury-Jupiter co. 3°34' M

Bridge {+2}
t Pluto sq. Cansolar Moon 7/17-12/25
t Saturn op. Capsolar Asc 11/9-12/28
Event window: Nov 19 to Dec 25

Quarter: Libsolar {+3}
Exactly on target!
Saturn on Dsc 0°36'
Mars on IC 0°42'
Sun more widely foreground
-- Mars-Saturn sq. 0°06' M
-- Sun-Pluto sq. 0°42'
-- Mars-Pluto sq. 2°37'
-- Sun-Mars co. 3°18'

Month: Caplunar {0}
Sun on Z 0°05'
Jupiter on Asc 3°40'
Moon & Saturn more widely foreground
-- Saturn sq. non-foreground Mars 0°45'
-- Saturn sq. non-foreground Mercury 1°28'
Moon-Pluto co. 0°27'

Week: Canlunar (Dormant.) Moon-Pluto.

Week: Arilunar {0? +1?}
Very intense, descriptive in many ways, possibly contradictory on balance.
Uranus on IC 0°05'
Venus on Asc 0°33'
Saturn on EP-a 0°40'
Mars on MC 1°19'
Mercury and Pluto widely foreground
-- Venus-Jupiter sq. 0°32' PVP
-- Saturn-Uranus sq. 0°37' in RA
-- Venus-Uranus sq. 0°38' M
-- Mars-Uranus op. 0°45'
-- Venus-Mars sq. 0°46' M
-- Mars-Jupiter sq. 0°56' PVP
-- Mars-Saturn sq. 1°13' in RA
-- Mercury-Pluto sq. 2°21' M
Moon-Pluto sq. 0°19'

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {0 / +2 = +2}
p MC sq. t Sun +0°21', sq. t Mercury -0°31'
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t Saturn op. s Asc 0°39'

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
p MC op. t Saturn 0°14'
p Asc co. p Moon 1°51'
p EP op. t Uranus 1°40'
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t Pluto sq. s Moon 0°17'
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