DC 6/12/2019 Liblunar

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DC 6/12/2019 Liblunar

Post by SteveS » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:26 am

I was putting some future dates in my computer reminder calendar, and here is the most malefic Lunar Ingress (June 12, 2019 Liblunar) I have ever witness for DC.
https://imgur.com/a/8l1xJ

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Re: DC 6/12/2019 Liblunar

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:29 am

Here's the good news: I've seen WAY more malefic lunar ingresses than this for Washington. In recent memory, there were at least a couple in 2016 that had Mars, Saturn, and Neptune all angular and near-partile aspecting each other. We got some scraped news and an orange baboon out of it, but ha e survived.

There have been more concentratedly malefic ingresses this year. Heck, my next SSR is worse than this ingress (not sure I should be happy about that LOL).

this one is indeed bad, though. If the Capsolar, Arisolar, and Caplunar conspire with it, some hard blows are possible. If we have a lot of layered Saturn-Pluto during that conjunction, then we're back in 2001 turf (9/11 etc.), so watch the solar ingresses for it. (Maybe use the 2001 Cansolar as your point of comparison.)

I'd break this chart down as follows. It probably will kick a leg out from under the stool we're sitting on.

Pluto on IC (0°03')
Saturn sq. Asc (0°37')
Moon on EP (0°38')
Mars sq. Asc (1°55')
-- Mars-Saturn op. (1°02' in mundo)
-- Saturn-Pluto conj. (3°32')
Mercury is more widely foreground.
Moon-Pluto sq. (2°23')
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Re: DC 6/12/2019 Liblunar

Post by SteveS » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:47 am

All I know Jim--its good its not a Capsolar. :)

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Re: DC 6/12/2019 Liblunar

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:39 am

Steve are you thinking it's worse because Mars, Saturn, Pluto stuff is more likely to be permanent than Mars, Saturn, Neptune stuff?

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Re: DC 6/12/2019 Liblunar

Post by SteveS » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:08 pm

JSAD, it appeared worse to me because angular (EP) Moon is involved. But, as Jim refreshed my memory-- angular Moon-Mars-Saturn-Pluto all involved at same time with DC's 2001 Cansolar preceding 9/11. Anyway, it jumped out to me as a red flag while i was scanning future lunar ingresses.

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Re: DC 6/12/2019 Liblunar

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:11 pm

I see.
I don't think something has to be the worst to be bad enough to keep an eye on.

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Re: DC 6/12/2019 Liblunar

Post by SteveS » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:22 pm

No, you are correct, doesn't have to be worse to keep an eye on, but I have my own criteria for logging in my alert computer calendar.

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Re: DC 6/12/2019 Liblunar

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:49 pm

This does look worse in the context of other ingresses of the same time.

The Arisolar has Saturn conjunct Pluto on Ascendant - Saturn only 0°02' from the angle, Pluto 2°34'. That's quite severe for a solar ingress.

The Capsolar doesn't have it quite as close - but is severe in its own way, and gives the Arisolar a chance to be a build-up. Pluto is angular (EP), though wider than usual. Most angular is Uranus, 2°36' from IC. Saturn and Mercury are again conjunct (like this year), but now in the foreground - Mercury-Saturn about 6-9° from angles, close enough to count the aspect. Not a stable time.

So, coming down to the time of year, the Caplunar ALSO has the Saturn-Pluto angular:

25°05' Sag - Saturn
26°31' Sag - Sa/Pl
26°40' Pis - Asc
27°57' Sag - Pluto

So there you have it: Capsolar vaguely hinting, then loud and impactful Arisolar, Caplunar, Liblunar - quarter to month to week.

CapQ Asc opposes ingress Saturn June 15.

The kindest news is that the Caplunar a week later is really nice (Venus, Jupiter, Neptune) for the U.S., though really severe for some other locations. For example, Japan is one of the worst hit. Also a stretch of longitude that includes Iraq and much of Saudi Arabia.
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Re: DC 6/12/2019 Liblunar

Post by SteveS » Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:37 pm

CapQ Asc opposes ingress Saturn June 15.
Now, an even bigger red flag. As long as I have been working with your SMA book, definitely the worse I can recall by looking ahead with SMA ingresses. The 2001 Cansolar as you pointed out was the most malefic I had seen with hindsight after you presented you SMA book.

Jim wrote:
The Arisolar has Saturn conjunct Pluto on Ascendant - Saturn only 0°02' from the angle, Pluto 2°34'. That's quite severe for a solar ingress.
Indeed! Since I use Caput in my work, I see Caput on Arisolar Dsc, which offers an angular planetary picture of Saturn-Pluto-Caput. Ebertin says from COSI with this combo:
Suffering shared together with others. Mourning and bereavement.
If this is foretelling another type attack on US, Mars enters the Saturn-Pluto fray with the June 12, 2019 Libsolar.

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