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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:56 am

Post South Carolina Debate odds:
Prez:
Trump -300
Sanders +225
Biden +1000
Bloomberg +1500
Buttigieg +3000
Warren +10,000

Dem Nominee:
Sanders -300
Biden +400
Bloomberg +700
Buttigieg +1200
Warren +3000

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Buttigieg is out

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:46 pm

Pete Buttigieg just ended his campaign. (I'm guessing he didn't make the $13 million fundraising goal they had in advance of Super Tuesday. We knew he'd do poorly in South Carolina, and he actually did better than I thought.)
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Re: South Carolina

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:54 pm

My South Carolina predictions, based on transits to candidates' natal charts, weren't very good.

JOE BIDEN (A data). "SC might be make-or-break for Joe... The main picture is that he has a good night - certainly enough to save his campaign. But Sun square his Saturn is distinctly bad. I doubt he wins the state, but maybe he can pull off 2nd place? ... His SLR a day earlier for Columbia has Sun square his Saturn right on the angles... He still has a deep pleasure that probably saves his campaign but he won't feel like a winner. Surely not 1st, maybe not 2nd." Whatever small nuance of this may have been correct, I call it wrong: He won, and won by a landslide, entirely changing his campaign's dynamics and shifting odds so that he is nearly tied Bernie.

BERNIE SANDERS (C data). "This looks like he has an excellent night.... Jupiter's square to his Moon requires that the uncertain birthtime be accurate to within a couple of hours. Without this transit, at least it isn't a bad night." This is right to the extent that he didn't have a terrible night. I think he thought he might do better in SC. Biden swamped him, then Bernie came in second.

PETE BUTTIGIEG (A data). "Pete is expected to take a bruising. In SC he is up against his greatest weakness. This night is critical, then, on the question of whether he is overcoming his greatest weakness... I think as long as Uranus squares his Venus he will have reason to celebrate. Nonetheless, Saturn to Pluto has to be a hard burden right now. I'll say he exceeds the low expectations." OK, yes, he exceeded expectations. I thought he'd get about 2-3%, he got 8%. He got endorsements from SC's largest newspaper. But he lost anyway, and today closed his campaign.

ELIZABETH WARREN (C data). "Even if the transit to her MC is fictional, these look pretty positive (though quite combative). Expect a fiery speech and Liz coming on particularly strong, likely with significant success..." Meh. Came in fourth with very low showing, getting no apparent credit for taking down Bloomberg earlier in the week, and no fiery speech that I noticed.

AMY KLOBUCHAR (AA data). ...she doesn't get the votes OR that there is a vote counting issue that adversely affects her... She does better than Nevada, not too bad overall, and there are issues that are the bigger part of the news cycle." Amy is always easy to get right. Yes, she did (barely) better than Nevada and yes, she didn't do diddly.
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Re: Super Tuesday

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Mar 01, 2020 3:56 pm

Here is a repost of my Super Tuesday predictions based on transits (just to make it easier to see this week). Note that Buttigieg is now out of the campaign.
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The big primary day is Super Tuesday, March 3. There is significant reason to think the nomination will be resolved by then, especially since this year it includes California, Texas, and 12 other states, including the home states of Warren, Sanders, and Klobuchar. Using an estimated wrap-up time of 8:00 PM PDT, and not knowing where anyone will be that night, here are transits to the candidates for the likely conclusion.

JOE BIDEN (A data). t Ve sq. r Pl 44', t Me sq. r Su 14'. Also, t Ne is nearing his IC and t Su crosses his IC for the 48 hours prior but has just left orb as these contests are over. If Biden is still in the race, he is definitely in the limelight for the day, possibly suggesting some surges (at least in particular areas) or possibly showing his stepping aside.

BERNIE SANDERS (C data). t Pl sq. r Ma 16', t Ma sqq. r Ur 35', t Su sqq. r Pl 51'. t Su also squared his Jupiter for the 48 hours before, but now is gone. Unclear. There's a fair bit happening, it's a significant day for him. Pluto to Mars continues to concern me about his health.

ELIZABETH WARREN (C data). t Pl sqq. r Ma 32', t Ju conj. r IC 54', t Ma sqq. r Sa 34'. If this birth time is correct, she's the big winner of the day; if not, then quite the opposite. In any case, notice Saturn is approaching her Jupiter, so she will weaken (for a time?) soon.

PETE BUTTIGIEG (A data). t Ne ssq. r Ve 47', t Sa conj. r Su 27', t Ve conj. r IC 23'. Saturn has caught up to exact conjunction with his Sun. Probably this means defeat; however, if it doesn't, then it means he is on a destiny path of great fundamental importance to his life and we shouldn't doubt him going forward. Venus crosses his IC and the next day, a the dust settles, opposes his culminating Jupiter. Despite exact Sa-Su, I can't rule him out: Rather, what happens this day will tell us what the universe is ruling in and out for him for the campaign.

AMY KLOBUCHAR (AA data). t Sa sqq. r Me 10', t Ma sqq. r Mo 10'. Not good. She does quite poorly.

MICHAEL BLOOMBERG (AA data). I assume Bloomberg will be in the primaries by this date, it seems his only real strategy. Saturn will have crossed his Dsc over the prior months, so he may have had the wind taken out of his sales. Nonetheless, if he's in, here are the transits: t Ve sq. r Ve 31', t Me sq. r Ur. 55'. This seems slight, but hardly against him.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Thu Mar 05, 2020 5:28 am

New Vegas odds, post Super Tuesday:
Prez:
Trump -170
Biden +125
Sanders +1200

Dem Nominee:
Biden -650
Sanders +400

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:07 pm

Prez:
Biden -110
Trump -110

Party:
Dem -115
Rep -110

Dem VP:
Klobuchar +150
K. Harris +160
Stacy Abrams +500
Warren +700
All Others +2000 or more.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:11 pm

Prez:
Trump -125
Biden +135

Party:
Rep -130
Dem Even

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Danica » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:38 pm

SteveS wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:11 pm
Prez:
Trump -125

Party:
Rep -130
Dem Even
hard to say what's scarier - the virus, or this
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:44 pm

Oh, easily this. The virus is just a thing.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:08 am

Prez:
Trump -125
Biden +135

Party:
Rep -130
Dem Even
Danica wrote:
hard to say what's scarier - the virus, or this
Jim wrote:
Oh, easily this. The virus is just a thing
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Jim, Danica, Vegas favored odds does not necessarily determine who the winner is. Need I remind you again in 2016 Hillary was a 9-1 favorite on election day and she lost when a major angular Uranus-Pluto angular in the 2016 Libsolar timed a major contest upset for Prez with Trump winning? Research with sports betting odds with major contests proves major Uranus-Pluto symbolism for Sidereal Mundane Astrology charts is the astrological signature for major upsets. And again in 2020 we have another major angular Uranus-Pluto timed for the Prez election in the 2020 Libsolar. What the Dems need to see is Trump favored by 7/9-1 on election day for the 2020 Uranus-Pluto Libsolar to upset the favored betting odds for Trump with an upset Dem victory. The people vote determining the winner, not the oddsmakers, and imo, there will be a lot more Dem voters on election day than Rep voters. So, keep hoping you see Trump's favored betting odds go much higher by election day :) .

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by sotonye » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:20 am

Going to predict that the symbolism for a major upset of the US election will be either a suspended election and an indefinite Trump presidency due to the virus, the death of one or more of the candidates, or a just a plain Trump victory which I think is likely given the primary democratic nominee is dying on camera

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by sotonye » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:35 am

We’ve entered strange seas and these new waters demand even stranger thinking if we aim to keep our wits about us! Any expectation of how things are supposed to go will have to be abjured, our thinking will have to get really weird and wild I think to navigate the future skillfully! The strangest events we can muster in between the folds of our brain are all on the table and it’s beautiful and righteous and scary too

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:03 am

Sotonye wrote:
Going to predict that the symbolism for a major upset of the US election will be either a suspended election and an indefinite Trump presidency due to the virus, the death of one or more of the candidates...
:shock: Now that would certainly fit the timing of the Uranus-Pluto Paran in the 2020 Libsolar.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:09 pm

What happens if Biden dies before election? If named, does his VP candidate automatically becomes Prez Nominee?

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:25 pm

SteveS wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:09 pm
What happens if Biden dies before election? If named, does his VP candidate automatically becomes Prez Nominee?
If he dies before the election then the Democratic Party central committee (by whatever rules they currently have) names someone else for the ballot. If it happens between the election and when the Electoral College votes, it more or less works the same way except I don't know if the electors are required to still vote for the replacement candidate (though they probably would; but that makes it complicated). The ultimate fallback is that the House of Representatives, convening January 3, elects a new President, but I think, instead, the Supreme Court would hold with whoever won the EC vote unless electors clearly broke the law.

If he dies after the Electoral College vote early December and the inauguration January 20, the Constitution is clear: Per the 20th Amendment, "If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President."

In any case, Trump's term of office expires January 20 at noon.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:29 pm

Thanks Jim.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Tue May 12, 2020 7:37 am

Any type wager you wish to make for the 2020 Election:

Who Will Be The Democratic Vice-Presidential Nominee?
Kamala Harris +175
Amy Klobuchar +400
Elizabeth Warren +550
Michelle Obama +800
Gretchen Whitmer +1000
Stacey Abrams +1200
Catherine Cortez Masto +1600
Susan Rice +1800
Hillary Clinton +2000

Will The Democrats Have A Brokered Convention In 2020?
Yes +450
No -775

Winning Party Of U.S. Presidential Election
Democratic Party -105
Republican Party -125


Will Donald Trump Be Kicked Off Twitter Before 2022?
Yes +525
No -950

Will Donald Trump Complete His First Term As President?
Yes -900
No +500

Will There Be A Recession In Donald Trump’s First Term As President?
Yes -4000
No +1000

US House Of Representatives - 117th Congress
Democrats -380
Republicans +265

US Senate Control - Start Of 117th Congress
Democrats EVEN
Republicans -130

US House And Senate Balance Of Power - Start Of 117th Congress
Democratic House, Democratic Senate +120
Democratic House, Republican Senate +140

Democratic Nominee For Presidential Election
Joe Biden -900
Not Joe Biden +500

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 12, 2020 8:09 am

Very interesting.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:54 pm

Latest election odds:

Prez:
Dem -120
Rep Even

Biden's VP:
K. Harris + 120
Warren + 600
Klobuchar +1000
Abrams +1000
Susan Rice + 1700
Michelle Obama +1700

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:13 pm

Latest 2020 election betting odds:
Dem -135
Rep +115

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Jun 22, 2020 5:54 pm

Biden -150
Trump +125

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jun 22, 2020 7:07 pm

Very slightly moving apart. (These, of course, while presently favoring Biden, could flip at any time.)
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:47 am

Jim wrote:
(These, of course, while presently favoring Biden, could flip at any time.)
Indeed Jim.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:46 pm

Dem -185
Rep + 145

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:58 am

Dem -190
Rep +150

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:18 am

What's interesting is how little this has moved in a month, given all the news (including nes reporting continuing poll slides).
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:06 am

Jim wrote:
What's interesting is how little this has moved in a month, given all the news (including nes reporting continuing poll slides).
I have turned all news sources off, but I still have friends/clients who call me asking what I think about most polls favoring Biden. After what I saw with the pools in 2016---taught me a lesson to ignore polls hyped by media. :)

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:42 am

The pollsters are also aware of the problems, and now the news media is as well, so there likely will be fewer misleading polls as well.

And Mrs. Clinton DID win the election. It was the electoral college, as rigged by the Republican party over the last 20 some years, that elected Trump.

That's why this election is still a toss-up. The electoral collage is chosen by captive state legislatures. Those little off-year elections are important, maybe more important, than the big one every four years.

That's also why this is is more important because this year the census numbers will be allocated by the Senate and the state legislatures. Even if you love your senator, vote democratic and get the numbers. Then you can vote the one you love back in in two years.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:13 am

New odds for the new week:
Dem -185
Rep +150

Biden's VP:
K. Harris +120
S. Rice +200
K. Bass +500
T. Duckworth +700
V. Demings +1200
H. Clinton +10,000
B. Sanders +20,000

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:22 am

Dem --150
Rep + 125

Biden has lost some of his favorite odds. I don't watch news. Has anything fundamentally happened for this change in odds?

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:57 am

It's hard to sort out that anything has changed. The only things that objectively have changed is that some pharma companies are announcing progress on a cure.

The rest is propaganda which, of course, is a reality. Trump is posturing himself as the one who will order a further bailout as Congress stalls on it. Russian sources have been identified as working against Biden in mass media.

Oh, and Kanye West's presidential campaign is actually getting some backing - from people connected to the Trump campaign! This can only hurt Biden (can't hurt Trump).

I think what we're probably seeing, though, is Saturn's opposition to Biden's Jupiter this month. I knew at the start of the year it would be a rough time for him and it's too bad the convention is right about now. The question is whether he can recover his momentum.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:52 am

Jim wrote:
I think what we're probably seeing, though, is Saturn's opposition to Biden's Jupiter this month. I knew at the start of the year it would be a rough time for him and it's too bad the convention is right about now.
Ah--good explanation, thanks.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:24 pm

Dems -135
Reps +110

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:19 am

I was asked elsewhere if I was going to publish an election forecast. Mainly, I just plan to do my regular monthly U.S. forecast (with a Trump and Biden page on each) I'm not sure I've exhausted everything I should look at for an outright forecast. Nonetheless, I've gathered a lot of astrological clues that I'm willing to collate in one place.

First, both Biden and Trump have bizarrely unhelpful lunar returns from October through the end of the year. (Joe is every kind of Neptune he can find by transit, progression, direction, and return chart; Trump is mixed and unclear.) Some of this might be that they both experience more travel than i thought they'd undertake - that their lunar returns don't actually set up where I expect them to be.

For Election Day itself, Trump looks slightly better, but I don't think Election Day is the target date: People are voting from at least mid-October on, and we likely won't have an answer at least for a few days and maybe for three or four weeks, so the timing (finding the critical date) is weird. OTOH, for Inauguration Day, Biden looks a little better.

Trump has a Lunar Return exactly the day the Electoral College votes that is one of the most powerful charts I've ever seen - but I can't tell if it's powerful good or bad. (BOTH Jupiter and Saturn are within minutes of Ascendant, conjunct, with Pluto nearby. By traditional means of interpreting, this is a defeat marker, but I'm not willing to rely on that.) A lunar ingress the day Congress counts the ballots is unusual in that it's a Liblunar - normally a one-week chart - that lasts three weeks this tine and seems to me a "breath of fresh air" or "new agenda" chart even though amidst difficult, terrible conditions. Biden's Demi-SLR the same day is exceptionally positive.

Which brings us to the inauguration: All of a sudden, on January 20, 2021, Joe Biden's new Sidereal Lunar Return, though physically threatening, looks like he's the absolute center of attention in Washington, DC. Kamala Harris, who lives in DC and probably will be at the inauguration as a Senator whichever way the vote goes, has a lunar return the same night (their Moons are conjunct) showing it's one of the happiest days of her life. Harris also has progressed Sun 0°05' from her natal Descendant and a 0°04' progressed Moon-Jupiter conjunction - her chart looks astonishingly good (victorious and reigning) for Inauguration Day, though Joe remains very much a centerpiece - it's not like he's no longer there, as some have suggested.

So... as far as I've gone... I think the Democratic ticket wins. I can't tell a bloody thing I find reliable through the end of 2020, but January 6 starts to perk up and January 20 shows Harris at the peak of ambition, success, and attainment and Biden as a centerpiece of all Washington's attention.

Finally, January 20 is the exact day Trump has is final 0°00' transiting Neptune square natal Uranus AND the exact day transiting Pluto opposes his Saturn 0°00'. It does seem that reality cuts the bottom out from under his world
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:23 pm

Biden - 135
Trump + 115

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:02 pm

An important article and assessment by Charlie Cook of the highly respected Cook Political Report:

Many Are Afraid To Say It, but This Is Not a Close Race
https://cookpolitical.com/analysis/nati ... U.facebook
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Fri Aug 28, 2020 3:28 pm

Maybe it's not a close race, but one way to make it close is to not vote because you think it's already in the bag. See 2016.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:52 am

Biden - 110
Trump Even

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Aug 31, 2020 10:02 am

Narrowing... never wide, and narrowing earlier than usual.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:14 am

The only odds that really matter are for the day of election. I still see much mixed stuff with this election. No way Trump wins with standard partile transits to his natal, and most of the Sidereal Astrology I use leans against Trump too. But, most of the Uranian astrology I think may be reliable says the opposite---no way Biden wins. No way I am wagering on this election regardless the final odds.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Aug 31, 2020 11:46 am

Agree on not wagering on this one.

I agree with Firebrace's philosophy that anything really big shows in multiple methods, so the "check everything but the kitchen sink" approach is probably the best. To only slightly simplify everything I checked showed Biden better than Trump for Inauguration Day EXCEPT Solar Arcs show the opposite. When using the shotgun approach, it doesn't matter what technique disagrees: If all known strong techniques except one lean in one direction, then throw out the one disagreeing technique.

That's aside from the fact that I have less confidence in Solar Arcs than in the transits / Secondary Progressions / Sidereal return charts.

There's also the fact that Harris' chart for Inauguration Day is 24 karat gold.

I think this year Election Day is too imprecise. If you are trying to see how other people will regard the candidates and vote, we have to consider that early voting begins as soon as September 22 this year and continues for over a month (with perhaps a majority of people voting early this year). If you are trying to see how the candidates will feel when the answer comes in, there is the problem that it may take two or three or four weeks before we know the outcome. We don't know when between September 22 and December 14 is the most important date.

But we know where the winner will be standing January 20, 2021 at noon.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Aug 31, 2020 12:16 pm

Excellent points Jim throwing more mixed signals into the mix.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:55 pm

2020 Presidential Election Odds Chart since Jan 2020:

https://www.oddsshark.com/politics/2020 ... ds-futures

Scroll down about a 1/3 of page for a progression of the betting odds chart since Jan 2020. Interesting to note in Feb Biden was + 2000 underdog to win Prez. Since Trump is now an even bet to win Prez, one could have bet 100 $ on Biden to win Prez in Feb, and then today bet 1000 $ on Trump to win Prez, and the worst outcome for the better would be a 900 $ win no matter who wins Prez. I think this was back in the days when Bernie was a big favorite to win Dem Nomination that Biden was a + 2000 underdog to take Prez. Proving betting psychology can change rapidly for a Prez election.

Makes me think if the real powers behind the Dem Party knew there was no way Bernie would get Dem Nomination but had a good idea Biden would get the Nomination? If so, this type of insider knowledge would have banked a lot of $ with hedge betting no matter who wins Prez. If memory is serving me, both JSAD and Jim strongly felt Biden would eventually get the nod over Bernie?

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:50 pm

I thought, not that Biden would get the nod, but that there was no way Bernie could get the nomination. Not because people were against his getting it. Because he's just not presidential material. If he'd got the nomination, he wouldn't be ahead now the way Biden is. He's just too far, not left, but off-key.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Aug 31, 2020 6:04 pm

Agreed, it was clear that Bernie wouldn't get it.

My primary position was:
1. The party has a strong division and choice between those who want to go far left (and thus to campaign by saying "screw anyone in the middle and right, let's overwhelm them with our vast new voter numbers") vs. those who want to go moderate-centrist (and thus to campaign saying, "Everyone who normally would vote Republican and is fed up with Trump, please join us this year for a sensible shared solution").
2. I had no idea which way was the best strategic path
3. Since the success of either relied on whether they could actually turn out voters, the best solution was to let the primaries determine it
4. I thought that relying on those who historically voted (moderate-left) was smarter than relying on those who historically don't vote (those who were aligned with the far left)
5. OTOH I personally thought we needed the unity, reaching across to the other side approach this year more than any other year AND that this was the best year ever to pursue disenchanted Republicans, so my bias made my less certain that #4 was correct.

I think Bernie has brilliant ideas that I almost entirely support but that he has no real ability to lead because he is touted as sticking to his guns and "never compromising" - which means he's politically impotent, since politics is all about compromise.

But it could have gone Warren, for example... I saw no way that Bernie could get the nomination AND Democrats would win, but was unsure whether a far-left or centrist-left approach was the best strategy.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:23 am

Biden - 220
Trump + 150

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:56 am

I wonder what Vegas knows that everybody else doesn't... that they are keeping this so close.

Do you think they just got burned so badly last time that they are keeping the odds conservative? Polling data and early voting data are significantly more leaning toward Biden than they were toward Hillary, and yet the Vegas odds are much narrower IIRC.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:16 am

It seems like Wall Street has decided Joe's victory will be good for your 401(k).
https://www.axios.com/wall-street-feels ... 2QN7h-8utc
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Mon Oct 12, 2020 7:09 am

A seasoned Sidereal Astrologer gambler recognizes with most betting lines on important contests there is no betting value. In the 2016 Prez election there was tremendous betting value for Trump to win because he was a + 500 to win the election and the Principles of Sidereal Astrology with certain Sidereal Astrology charts clearly projected Trump to win and Hillary to lose. Every 100 $ bet on Trump on election day in 2016 returned 500 $ in winnings, a tremendous betting value. Hillary was a -900 favorite to win the 2016 election. This means every 100 $ bet on Hillary to win in 2016 on election day lost the gambler 900 $, hence--no betting value.

At this time in the 2016 election cycle Hillary was a -500 favorite to win the Prez. By election day in 2016 Hillary was a -900 favorite to win. This means in the last 3 weeks of the 2016 Prez election the betting public poured their wagering money on Hillary to win. The wagering public on the 2016 election took a blood bath.

This time with the 2020 election cycle, Biden is a clear -220 favorite to win Prez but not as much as Hillary was favored to win in 2016. The astrology I have analyzed leans against Trump winning but Biden does not have good betting value at -220. You have to risk 220 $ for every 100 $ bet on Biden. Sidereal Astrology speaking, I see no betting value for this 2020 election on election night.

In late July 2015, when I got Trump's AA rated chart, I quickly bet on Trump to win the Republican Candidate at + 700, a solid win! Then when I saw the Quotidian Charts for Hillary on election night, I bet on Trump to win Prez at +1500. If I had gotten Trump's AA chart when he threw his hat into the political ring the betting odds on Trump to win Rep Candidate was + 1500 and win Prez was + 3000. By the time the 2016 Prez election rolled around, with these type tremendous values for betting on Trump to win Prez, I was in a betting position to win $ no matter who won the 2016 Prez election. I look for betting value using Sidereal Astrology to put me in positions to win $ no matter who wins the contest. There is absolutely no betting value combined with Sidereal Astrology for this 2020 Prez election, IMO.

For anyone interested, I will be glad to go over the Sidereal Astrology Charts for Trump winning and Hillary losing the 2016 Prez election. Sidereal Astrology with its serious study offers the gambler on important contests tremendous betting advantages! Combined with one's personal Sidereal Astrology analysis for the month and day of the important contest, an even better % advantage.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Thu Oct 15, 2020 6:44 am

2020 Senate betting odds:

https://bookies.com/news/senate-races-odds-tracker

I will try to post final odds on day of election.

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