NCAA Basketball part 2

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NCAA Basketball part 2

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Topic review: NCAA Basketball
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New post Posted Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:05 pm by Debbie

SteveS wrote:
We cannot impose our wills on nature unless we first learn what her will is. Working without regard to natural law brings nothing but failure; working with natural law enables us to do what at first seemed impossible. Astrology has much to do with an important natural law of nature.



You always manage to find the words that I need to hear. :)
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New post Posted Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:35 pm by Debbie
Kentucky fan is blessed right now. Hopefully it will also translate to an improved career situation. I will give him some unsolicited advice to not overlook any opportunities that come his way.
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New post Posted Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:50 pm by SteveS
Debbie wrote:

Kentucky fan is blessed right now.


Has recently or now (before finals April 7th) any outstanding benefic manifestations occurring within his immediate environment, or do you know him well enough to ask?
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New post Posted Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:38 am by Debbie
He recently failed his certification exam for the third time, however, the last time we spoke he was excited about making a change in career direction. He seems very happy with his life, almost like a weight off him. His relationship is good. I hope his good aspects do not get wasted through procrastination as he has much to offer in the helping professions.
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New post Posted Fri Apr 04, 2014 10:56 am by SteveS
Hi Debbie,
As much as I want to make my maximum bet of 10% of my bank account based on the super benefic charts of the Kentucky Fan, I will only wager a small amount on Kentucky (+200) winning this championship; primarily, because T. Saturn is partile conjunct my Natal Asc, with T Saturn conjunct the local Asc at my residence near the estimated time of the end of the Kentucky-Wisconsin game. If transiting Venus or Jupiter was partile conj. my Natal Asc/Angles instead of T. Saturn, or if I had some good Venus or Jupiter crossings with my Q’s, I definitely would have bet 10% of my bank account on Kentucky winning the championship.
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New post Posted Fri Apr 04, 2014 12:58 pm by Debbie
Steve,
Thanks for your outlook on the game.

My NQ2 is good at the end of game with NJupiter conjunct TNeptune partile AC and NVenus less than 2 degrees from IC. Also, TVenus is conjunct my progressed Jupiter and PSun conjunct PVertex.
A negative is that NSaturn is square MC.

My SQ2 has NJupiter/TNeptune square MC and NSaturn near Vertex.

I will also bet a smaller amount on Kentucky beating Wis. instead of my max. However, on the day of the championship, my NQ2 in Biloxi has PJupiter partile AC with transit and progressed Venus closely angular. I will bet at least 1/2 my max on Kentucky (if they win vs Wis.) while there.

I know you don't think ingresses apply but KY has Jupiter on Zenith partile square Uranus and opposed Pluto in the Canlunar on 4-7.
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New post Posted Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:30 pm by SteveS
Debbie wrote:

A negative is that NSaturn is square NQ2 MC.


Yes, and NSaturn is tight 90 your NVenus which crosses your NQ2 IC right after the game. Enough acute angular activity for this Q for a cautionary mode.

TVenus is conjunct my progressed Jupiter

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Would be a super benefic if crossing this Q angle!

My SQ2 has NJupiter/TNeptune square MC and NSaturn near Vertex

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Yes, but T. Neptune is partile 90 SQ2 MC, whereas NJupiter is not partile 90 SQ2 MC. Remember, “Partile aspects Reign Supreme” according to Jim’s teachings, so we can see an acute angular T. Neptune with your SQ2. I always allow more potency with SQ’s than NQ’s, but with angular Jupiter-Neptune symbolism on both the NQ2 & SQ2, we damn sure can see you will be in speculative psychological mode with this game.

I will also bet a smaller amount on Kentucky beating Wis.


I think this is the right choice, even if Kentucky wins this game.

However, on the day of the championship, my NQ2 in Biloxi has PJupiter partile AC with transit and progressed Venus closely angular. I will bet at least 1/2 my max on Kentucky (if they win vs Wis.) while there.


I agree! It doesn’t get much better than acute angular Venus-Jupiter symbolism. If this angular Venus Jupiter symbolism was on the SQ2 instead of the NQ2, I would say your Biloxi trip would be very successful. Debbie, I can see you have made tremendous progress with SF. Welcome to the World of Q Charts, glad to have you as a betting colleague analyzing Q charts.

Debbie wrote:

I know you don't think ingresses apply but KY has Jupiter on Zenith partile square Uranus and opposed Pluto in the Canlunar on 4-7.



Its not I don’t think Sidereal Ingresses apply to championship games. It is through my experiences with Sidereal Ingresses for major sporting events —they don’t pick winners on a consistent basis verses AA rated charts in my data base FOR sports FANatics. My first analysis when I saw the teams of the final 4 was to do a Sidereal Ingress analysis, and without a doubt, with all the ‘stack’ of charts, the April 7 Canlunar (chart of the week) for Lexington Kentucky is definitely picking Kentucky to win this Championship, with Jupiter partile conj. Lexington’s Zenith verse no acute angular Jupiter with the other 3 teams. Also this Canlunar Jupiter Zenith is partile 90 Canlunar Uranus, Ebertin’s ‘Thank You Lord Aspect.’ The April 7th Canlunar for Lexington is indeed a potent benefic chart. Canlunar Pluto is partile conjunct Lexington’s IC offering a very potent T-Square involving Lexington’s Zenith-Nadir axis. Also note Lexington’s 4-7 Canlunar features a tight Sun-Mars 180 falling on the EP-WP axis, which is not falling on the EP-WP with the other 3 teams. Like I said, if it was not for T Saturn partile conj my natal Asc, I would be on a plane to Vegas making my max bet. . If Kentucky wins this
championship, I can use 20-20 hindsight saying this T. Saturn on my natal Asc caused a strong psychological feeling for me to act in a very conservative manner with my betting money. This thread is going to offer us some interesting post championship game analysis, which, IMO is going to offer us a lot of learning experience.
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New post Posted Sun Apr 06, 2014 12:07 am by SteveS
Lexington Kentucky’s April 7th Canlunar:

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Storrs Connecticut’s April 7th Canlunar:

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As Debbie has noted, Lexington’s April 7th Canlunar is a super benefic Chart with Jupiter partile conjunct Lexington’s Zenith. On the flipside, Storrs Connecticut’s April 7th Canlunar features no angular Jupiter or Venus, but an angular Mars. We will soon know if there is Joy & Happiness in Lexington Monday night with their Canlunar Jupiter partile conjunct their Zenith, and their Wildcats winning the NCAA Basketball Championship. Note: Storrs Connecticut's April 7th Canlunar Saturn is partile 180 Vertex--very interesting.

Debbie, Kentucky’s 74-73 win was the most exciting basketball I have ever witness. T. Uranus was partile conjunct my SSR Moon. T. Uranus was partile 180 your Kentucky Fan’s P SSR Moon.
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New post Posted Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:38 am by Debbie
It was an exciting game! I did ok as I bet UConn +7 (I thank the hubby for that) and fortunately got Kentucky at -1 so no harm. Leaving for Biloxi now, I won't be able to write until later in the week but I would like to break this one down.
Kentucky is -3 so I will go ML based on the fan chart and ingress. Another close one?
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New post Posted Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:52 pm by SteveS
Debbie wrote:

I won't be able to write until later in the week but I would like to break this one down.


Yes, if Kentucky wins this Championship, I will go into bottom line details with the Kentucky Fan’s astro symbolism. Oh, I forgot to tell you— win or lose, always keep a diary of the why with your individual astro analysis for winning or losing a bet. I guarantee this is the best way to learn the art of betting with Sidereal Astrology techniques.

Debbie wrote:

Kentucky is -3 so I will go ML based on the fan chart and ingress. Another close one?


Exactly! Because of the Kentucky Fan intense (Pluto) excitement symbolism with his P SSR Moon with SSR Uranus and Jupiter, involving partile aspects, you have to allow a much higher probably for a very close game. IMO, there is nothing more exciting with sports betting than winning a bet with a very close game. The various Vegas betting techniques is just as important for careful analysis, as correctly interpreting your astro symbolism with Sidereal Astrology techniques, at times more important than correctly interpreting one's individual astro symbolism for sports betting. Always remember when you are under acute unafflicted angular symbolism with Uranus, you must allow higher probabilities for a very close game. Acute angular or Moon-Uranus with Sidereal Astrology techniques is par-excellent symbolism for ‘thrill/excitement' in sports betting involving very close games. Good Luck on your trip.
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New post Posted Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:00 am by SteveS
Hi Debbie,

The importance of putting careful thought into a sound betting strategy with the various Vegas odds with sports betting:

Using Sidereal Astrology, looking at the April 7th Canlunar for Lexington Kentucky, and the acute benefic angular planetary symbolism for the Kentucky Fan, I made a wager on Kentucky to win the NCAA Basketball Championship, with Vegas giving me 2-1 odds for Kentucky winning the Championship. Since Kentucky won its game Saturday April 5 verses Wisconsin, I am now in a very favorable betting position by placing an equal bet as my original bet on Connecticut + 3 in tonight’s Championship game, where the worst case scenario is I break even no matter the score in tonight’s game. Lets look at all the possibilities based on a $100.00 bet on Kentucky at 2-1 to win the Championship before the Final Four began.

1: If Kentucky wins by more than 3 points tonight, the bettor wins $90.
2: If Kentucky wins by 3 points, the bet on Connecticut +3 pushes and the bettor wins $200 on an original bet at 2-1 for Kentucky winning the Championship.
3: If Kentucky wins by 1 or 2 points, the bettor wins both bets winning $300.
4: If Connecticut wins the Championship, the bettor breaks even.

5: Of course, If Wisconsin had beaten Kentucky Saturday night, the bettor would have lost their original bet of $100 at 2-1 for Kentucky wining the Championship. But Sidereal Astrology has foretold for us there was a very high % Kentucky would win this National Championship. These are the kind of betting scenarios I seek using Sidereal Astrology as my betting guide.

What is very exciting for me is next NCAA Football season we will get a Final Four with the new Play-Off formula, which means Vegas will be posting odds for these games. I am trying to find the odds for Kentucky winning the National Championship before the Tournament began. One source has told me Kentucky was a 24-1 odds not winning the Championship, but this source is not a bettor. If you happen to know how we can verify the odds on Kentucky winning Championship before the Tournament began—let me know, for the knowledge that Sidereal Astrology offers to a Sidereal Astrologer bettor makes life very interesting an exciting.
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Re: NCAA Basketball

New post Posted Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:54 pm by SteveS
Hi Deb,
It is 4 hours before tip-off for the big game tonight. I have already discussed some very benefic charts for the Kentucky Fan including all the important P SSR Moon with its partile aspects, Naibod’s Secondary Progressed Angles with its partile aspects, and the very important demi-lunar with its partile aspects, which is a short term chart including the super important game tonight with a very important time in his life as a Kentucky Fan.

Now we need to analyze the Fan’s daily Q Charts looking for conjunctions 2 degrees or less to his Q angles. I am primarily looking for acute angular Q activity since the cornerstone of Fagan’s astrology keys off the angles of any Sidereal Chart. I prefer to see partile conjunctions to his SQ angles as the most potent planetary influences known for a day’s psychological impact. I will start with his SQ because I have proven to myself the SQ carries more weight than the NQ’s. Remember his SSR P Moon has super benefic aspects so we would like to see super benefic aspects with SQ charts as an extension of his benefic P SSR partile aspects. Looking at SF’s tri-wheel, with his Q chart as inside wheel, middle chart as his Natal, and Transit as outer wheel, this is what my eyes see:

1: April 7th SQ 11.00 PM EST—est. end of game, relocated to St Petersburg Florida:
T Venus partile 180 N Venus tightly conjunct his angular N WP axis with Natal Venus 2,13 conjunct his N EP—very nice! I always allow more potency with Transits involving any angle. SSR Venus less than 2 degrees conjunct his SSR IC, not an actual crossing, but partile 90 T Saturn—not so nice, but I allow more potency involving the Venus transit. N Mercury tightly conj. SQ IC, obviously his thoughts (mind) occupied with tonight’s game.

2: SQ with middle wheel the actual SSR:
SSR Venus partile conjunct SQ IC, another angular Venus—nice! T Venus tightly conjunct SSR Asc—double nice. SSR Moon tightly square SSR Jupiter—super nice. Always but Always remember Jim’s teachings in his book ISR: SSR Moon P SSR with all its tight/partile aspects are super important and don’t have to involve an angle. Again we see here with this tri-wheel a most important P SSR Moon involved with partile aspects including the greater benefic Jupiter. Note transiting Uranus and SSR Uranus partile 180 his P SSR Moon for a double whammy of thrill/excitement. T Pluto for intensity and drama is involved with his all important P SSR Moon producing a very rare Grand Cross of T Jupiter, Uranus, and Pluto with his P SSR.

3: NQ1 tri-wheel analysis with inner wheel the NQ1, middle wheel Natal, outer- Transits:
NQ1 Neptune tightly conj NQ1 DC receiving a tight square from N Mars. This Q1 alone would prevent me for betting a max bet, but I doubt it will override the other benefic Q aspects for Kentucky not winning, particularly his benefic SQ which I always allow for more potency verses the NQ’s.

4: NQ2, same tri-wheel analysis as NQ1:
Natal Jupiter tightly conjunct NQ2 Asc receiving a partile 90 from T Mars, probably symbolizing a successful reaction for this Q Day, but if I had this NQ2 as a bettor I would be very cautious because Mars-Jupiter symbolism is par-excellent symbolism for squandering money.

Debbie, when you can analyze the Q,s seeing what you need to see with angular planetary activity (with the tri-wheels) and their tight/partile aspects, it allows betting magic. But it takes a certain amount of mental training and experience between the eyes and brain to achieve this tri-wheel analysis with these very important Sidereal Astrology Q techniques for possible Day results for any planned activity. These Q’s combined with his other benefic charts, along with Lexington’s April 7th Canlunar, should result in victory for his Kentucky Wildcats. But never forget we could miss-read certain symbolism with a Kentucky loss—never bet more than you can afford to lose by using sound money management.
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New post Posted Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:47 am by SteveS
Hi Deb,
Win or Lose, you always want to go back and review your analysis, putting in your betting diary what you think was the main astrological reason for a Win or Loss. Why did Kentucky lose the game with such great benefic charts for the Kentucky Fan leading up to this final game? I have found the answer for the Fan experiencing his team’s devastating loss, which is the most consistent guideline I have discovered with Sidereal Astrology. Looking at the Fan’s SQ near the end of the game, we see an angular SQ Venus less than 2 degrees from SQ IC, receiving a partile 90 from transiting Saturn. Jim writes from his book ISR:

Partile aspects reign supreme. It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about.



So, we see here on a very ‘out of ordinary day’ in the Kentucky Fan’s life with this championship game, his Solar Quotidian (SQ) featured an aspect exactly conforming to Jim’s written words with the above quote. My favorite Q to work with, the SQ feature a depressing partile 90 aspect with T Saturn partile 90 his SQ Venus. His NCAA tournament PARTY with his team reaching the championship game was absolutely crashed by T Saturn partile his 90 SQ angular Venus. I saw this with my Q analysis before the game but failed to realize Jim’s teachings that Venus-Saturn was going to cause an ‘outstanding incident’ in his life with his team losing the National Championship. I did not do the Fan’s Q analysis until 4 hours before the game. Normally I would have done this full Q analysis after I saw Kentucky winning Sat. reaching the Championship game. Learn a lesson here: depend on your own Q analysis before making any bets, for Q analysis is critical when we know an important ‘out of ordinary day’ is happening in a Fan’s life involving a very important game. Later, I will go over again the reason Florida lost with the Florida Fan's Q,s
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New post Posted Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:24 am by SteveS
Hi Debbie,
Because you supplied us with an AA birth time of a Florida Fan & a Kentucky Fan with both Kentucky & Florida making the Final 4, I want to point out something I deem very important for our betting Q diaries, which IMO explains WHY the Gators or Wildcats did not win the National Championship.

1: For the Florida Fan construct with SF a tri-wheel for Tampa Fl, with a SP NQ1or 2 chart as the inside wheel, Natal chart as the middle wheel, and transit chart for April 7th as the outer wheel. Note: SP N Saturn 24,02 Vir is partile 90 N MC 24,45 Sag. Also note SP Venus 23,54 Sag is partile conjunct Natal MC 24,45 Sag, partile 90 SP Saturn 24,02 Vir. This is a long tern partile planetary picture involving SP N Venus partile 90 SP N Saturn wired in with N MC 24,45 Sag. Why did this malefic Venus-Saturn wait until April 5-7 (Final 4) to fire-off for the Florida Fan??? Answer: Because T. Mars (an important trigger) was partile conjunct SP Saturn (involving the 2 malefics) partile 90 SP Venus and partile 90 N MC, only on the weekend of the final 4). It is important your eyes see this Venus-Saturn planetary picture with this tri-wheel, because tri-wheels are the only tool which allows your eyes to this for betting purposes. After constructing this tri-wheel and viewing, do you see what my words are describing? A picture (scopes) are always worth a thousand words.

2: Now to the Kentucky Fan. Construct a SF tri-wheel with inner chart the SQ, middle chart the SSR, and outer chart as a transit chart-- with all 3 charts set to 11:30 PM EDT, April 7th to St Petersburg Fl. Note SSR Venus 25,29 partile conjunct SQ IC 24,34 Can. Then note SQ Venus 26,22 Can less than 2 degrees (Jim’s degree orb for Q,s) conj SQ IC. Now note the critical outer chart of transits with transiting Saturn 27,19 Lib partile 90 SQ Venus 26,22 Can.

What these two Q analyses mean working with a SF tri-wheel: There were potent angular partile Venus Saturn symbolism involving Q angles and N angles triggered by T Mars & Saturn partile aspecting the Venus-Saturn symbolism. In others words Venus-Saturn crashed the two Fans NCAA party with their two teams reaching the Final 4. Note both fans had very benefic demi-lunars covering the Final 4 dates, but their malefic SQ & NQ Venus-Saturn overrode the benefic demi-lunars. The tight square of Venus-Saturn in the Kentucky Fan’s current SSR came to the angles of the SQ involving a partile square with T Saturn. If you will diligently study these two tri-wheel Q’s, you will reach an understanding of the importance of Q charts with betting when you have an AA rated birth time of avid sports fans. Remember Q charts are very important for a bettor when we can isolate an ‘out of ordinary’ Q Day for a sports fan.


















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New post Posted Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:51 pm by Debbie
Hi Steve,
Back from Biloxi and I can still buy groceries! We both had Venus around our angles so the trip was fun and we enjoyed each other's company, playing together most times. I never play more than I can afford and with the freebies we came out to the good.

Your analysis was fantastic. I am saving it for future events. I must imprint on my mind "partile aspects reign supreme". It was the most telling feature of both charts. I will certainly forever remember to never do anything requiring luck or good fortune when Saturn is partile anything.

As for the ingress chart, I think it had something to say. We forget that championship cities often experience riots with property damage. By not winning, Lexington did not experience this phenomenon.

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New post Posted Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:11 pm by SteveS
Debbie wrote:

Back from Biloxi and I can still buy groceries!


:lol:

We both had Venus around our angles so the trip was fun and we enjoyed each other's company,


I always look for Venus symbolism for both me and my mate when I choose a location to travel for Rock Concerts or Vacations.

I never play more than I can afford…


Very, very smart, it’s the first step in learning to be a successful gambler within your life.

I must imprint on my mind "partile aspects reign supreme". It was the most telling feature of both charts.


Yes it was, and when combined with angular planets, probably the most important aspect for Q angles when it comes to any planned activity or reading other sports fan’s Q charts. Again, a teaching unique to Jim’s core teachings. Help me to never forget partile aspects involving angles/planets when you and I are analyzing gambling and sports charts.

I will certainly forever remember to never do anything requiring luck or good fortune when Saturn is partile anything.



Very wise Deb—remind me of this for our future gambling ventures. But I will tell you, your two charts of the Kentucky & Florida has taught me a-lot—an excellent positive manifestations for my T Saturn partile conj my N Asc—Saturn taught me a-lot with these two charts. First time I have ever analyze two charts for a tournament type sporting event—should pay me dividends near the end of NCAA football season if Fl, AL or Auburn make it to final four for National Championship.

I think I see some new structure to add to my Q gambling activity which I will later add to this thread. Would be very interested with any of your insights pertaining to your topic here.
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New post Posted Sat Apr 12, 2014 2:02 pm by Debbie
I am looking for natal charts of sports fans or sports bettors that will have transiting Jupiter stationary on a angle (or luminary) at 27 Cancer (22 Leo tropical). It was a good tell last year when it stationed on your wife's AC and near my Sun/IC. So far I've only found a natal Pluto there and ...

Your progressed SSR Moon will be there in Dec.! :D
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New post Posted Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:28 pm by SteveS
Good thinking Deb! Exactly the kind of thinking this old mind needs to assist with very selected betting. My wife had outstanding transits to her natal angles last football season. You and I both knew her Auburn Tigers were going to have an unexpected outstanding season, knowing full well, at her retired age the center of her universe is her Auburn Tigers. Her N Chart alone made us some good money. Then when Auburn made it to the SEC Championship game we knew not only was Auburn going to win this Championship, but the outstanding Q Charts of other Auburn fanatics-- we knew there was a very high % Michigan St + 7.5 was going to cover vs Ohio St. allowing Auburn to move on to the National Championship.

Debbie wrote:

I am looking for natal charts of sports fans...



I have been thinking about this a-lot. As an experiment I think I am going to advertise in major college newspapers near crunch time in the season for the truly fanatical fan(s) of a team for a copy presentation of their birth certificats without their names, and pay them for their BC. I have not worked out the details yet--got some more pondering to do on best way to advertise and then pay them. Let me know if you have any ideas.
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New post Posted Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:53 pm by SteveS
Debbie/anyone, what do you think is the best way to make contact with major ranked football team’s Mascots each year? If we can figure this out, I think I know a way to get a copy of their Birth Certificate with their last name blotted out.
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New post Posted Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:10 pm by Debbie
I'm not sure, Steve. I know most teams have a fan website. Here is one from FSU where fans can interact.

http://www.tomahawknation.com/fanposts

Maybe posting requests on these types of sites may get some response.
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New post Posted Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:20 pm by SteveS
Debbie wrote:

I know most teams have a fan website. Here is one from FSU where fans can interact.



This might prove most fruitful. Thanks for the idea.

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