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2017 Worlds Series

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:17 pm

So, it's Los Angeles vs. Houston.

Without looking at the charts, I remember two things: (1) Los Angeles has non-stop horrible charts all this year. (2) Houston had charts bad enough to draw in a devastating hurricane. So, I'm interested in the breakdown to see if either city has anything that can pull out a win.

The schedule of games is:

October 24 (Game 1) @ LA
October 25 (Game 2) @ LA
October 27 (Game 3): @ Tx
October 28 (Game 4): @ Tx
October 29 (Game 5): @ Tx
October 31 (Game 6): @ LA
November 1 (Game 7): @ LA

The earliest date on which a win is possible is Game 4, October 28. The latest is game 7, November 1.
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:32 pm

Capsolar
The current Capsolar has Neptune on MC (1°35') conjunct Venus (2° away), with Saturn 3.5° below Ascendant. This is enough to mark a lose unless Houston matches it.

Libsolar
Saturn is about 1° above Descendant. This, alone is sufficient to show a loss unless Houston can match it.

Capsolar Transits & Qotidians
Neptune transits Capsolar MC for the whole time. This, alone, doesn't indicate any particular outcome.

October 28 LA still has transiting Saturn within orb of CapQ MC. If a Houston 4th win is possible, this alone would indicate that LA loses the series on that day. Saturn first moves into CapQ MC 2° orb the evening of October 25, and is last there October 29. There are four games in that time and, if LA loses them all, it loses the series. (The beginning of these days, LA has both Mars and Saturn on CapQ angles, in mundane square.)

Though the CanQ isn't consulted for this purpose if the CapQ gives an answer, I do note that October 26 LA has CanQ Dsc conjunct ingress Saturn, with an orb stretching over the same days as the CapQ contact.
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:44 pm

Capsolar
Pluto sets, which has no impact on the game at all unless to show an underdog flip it. LA's Saturn probably claims the loss.

Libsolar
Mars is on IC with a foreground Venus-Pluto mundane square. These have no particular relevance to the game. LA's Saturn probably claims the loss.

Capsolar Transits & QuotidiansMars crosses Capsolar closest to the October 28 game, which is the first time, and this is the first possible day that the series can end. As LA has Saturn active three different ways, and barring some explosively violent event in the Houston area, This looks like the Astros win in as few as four games, and by an outrageous and stunning show of physical power.

Additionally, the CapQ has Houston on a winning streak from the time Descendant moves within 2° of ingress Jupiter on the evening of October 25, and lasting through the 27th (it's a bit wide on the 28th). By the 28th, CapQ angles move within orb of Pluto and Uranus, which is only relevant if there is a clear expected winner - in which case, this Uranus and Pluto biases against the projected winner.
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Series prediction

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:47 pm

Houston will win, probably in as few as four game, and in any case within five games.

Los Angeles has Saturn angular in the Capsolar, transiting the Capsolar angle, and on all the critical days angular in the CapQ (and, for that matter, the CanQ also). Any one of these would be sufficient to show a loss, barring Houston matching it. Houston, however, has no angular Saturns.

Houston does have an angular Pluto run. I don't know if there is a predicted winner but, if there is, this biases against them. More directly, though, Houston doesn't match any of the SAturns, and has Jupiter angular for all but the last day (depending on time of day).

If the World Series works on anything resembling the same astrological rules as the Super Bowl, Houston is a clear winner, probably in four games and, in any case, in no more than five.
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by SteveS » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:20 am

Interesting analysis Jim. Vegas odds for winning this World Series:
847ASTROS SERIES +140 848DODGERS SERIES -165
And you will find these odds interesting pertaining to your analysis.

300603HOU ASTROS WIN IN 4 GAMES+1600
300605HOU ASTROS WIN IN 5 GAMES+700
300607HOU ASTROS WIN IN 6 GAMES+650
300609HOU ASTROS WIN IN 7 GAMES+550
300611LA DODGERS WIN IN 4 GAMES+1000
300613LA DODGERS WIN IN 5 GAMES+600
300615LA DODGERS WIN IN 6 GAMES+350
300617LA DODGERS WIN IN 7 GAMES+400

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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:41 am

Thanks, Steve. These are indeed interesting, especially since there's a slight underdog quality to Houston. Will all of the Pluto and Pluto-Uranus, I think this enhances the chance that they will win, and in a way that normally would be considered unlikely.

Part of the reason that I think they will win in 4 or 5 games is that they lose the anger Jupiter after that, and the darkest hours for LA peak about the same time. From the charts, it looks like it's over around the 28th.
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by SteveS » Mon Oct 23, 2017 10:53 am

I definitely agree with your reasoning. I will make a small recreation wager on Houston to win this World Series. Pitching staffs on both teams are very strong with LA holding a slight edge, which is probably why Vegas has the Dodgers a slight favorite.

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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Oct 25, 2017 9:21 am

OK, it won't be 4-0 :)

Congratulations to the Los Angeles Dodgers!
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by SteveS » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:45 am

Vegas still has the Dodgers a slight favored to win World Series. Houston is now home for 3 straight games and have not lost a post season game at home--yet.
ASTROS SERIES +105
DODGERS SERIES -125

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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:47 am

It's 1-1 and, if they win their three home games, it will exactly fulfill the prediction. The quotidians are certainly with them.
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by SteveS » Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:08 pm

Yes, will be interesting!

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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:37 am

2-1 Astros.
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by SteveS » Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:39 am

New Vegas odds to win Series:
ASTROS -220
DODGERS +180
Astros now are a significant favorite.

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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Oct 28, 2017 9:42 am

SteveS wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:39 am
New Vegas odds to win Series:
ASTROS -220
DODGERS +180
Astros now are a significant favorite.
That was quite a turn-around! :)

Did you put some money on Astros in 5? Those were pretty good odds.
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by SteveS » Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:06 am

Jim asked:
Did you put some money on Astros in 5? Those were pretty good odds.
Nope, only a small wager on Houston to win the series at + 140 as an underdog. I do not think any gambler in this world would have dared to put money on Houston winning in 5 games unless they had complete faith in your quotidian analysis. :) And yes--those were good odds and now one would be in a betting position to win $--even if Houston does not win in 5 games. I will check--but I think the Astros have never won a World Series.

Yes, my memory is serving me today.
The Houston Astros did not win a World Series in their first 55 years as an MLB franchise.
In season 56, the Astros are playing in only their second World Series since their debut in 1962.

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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Oct 28, 2017 8:34 pm

Wow, Dodgers pulled it out! Neck-and-neck nothing for the longest time, then a surge that ended it 6-2. Series tied 2-2.

So it will not be Astros in 5, since it will take at least game 6 to resolve this.
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by SteveS » Sun Oct 29, 2017 12:03 pm

Tonight's Vegas Odds (10/29)
To win World Series:
Astros + 140
Dodgers -160
Dodgers now the favorite. Tonight's odds on the game:
Dodgers -147
Astros +137
Dodgers pitching Kershaw--probably the best pitcher in Baseball. Whoever wins tonight's game will be in the driver's seat, and will probably win the Series.

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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by mikestar13 » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:45 pm

Astros win 13-12 in 10 innings. Genuinely weird game. Anything astrological that indicates this?
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:58 pm

Astros are one game short of a victory.

Of course, the Dodgers are only two games away :)
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:19 am

mikestar13 wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2017 10:45 pm
Astros win 13-12 in 10 innings. Genuinely weird game. Anything astrological that indicates this?
Check the first three posts in this thread, posted on the 22nd. Twas predicted. :geek:

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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by SteveS » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:29 am

Mikestar asked:
Astros win 13-12 in 10 innings. Genuinely weird game. Anything astrological that indicates this?
Absolutely!!! Houston had a Capsolar (Master chart of the Year) featuring mundo Pluto 1,55 cnj Descendant. When major events are known for Houston, Pluto promises major ‘dramatic’ stuff. Hurricane Harvey brought a major ‘dramatic’ flood to Houston this year. The CapQ for last night’s game in Houston had p. Pluto 1,02 cnj p. MC, which in my book explains the weird ‘dramatic’ win for Houston. If we measure Houston’s CapQ last night mundanely, we see p. Jupiter partile cnj p. Descendant opposing Uranus, the ‘Thank you Lord’ combo, and Houston certainly won this game in a ‘dramatic’ (Pluto) ‘thank you lord’ fashion but it would take a seasoned baseball fan and a Sidereal Mundane astrologer to thoroughly understand how/why Houston won this very bazar game. LA was pitching their Ace and he had a 4-0 lead, and 95% of the time when he has a 4-0 lead—the opposing team (Houston) never comes back and wins. I have been watching World Series games for over 55 years, and never have I seen such a stunning (Pluto) comeback win by a baseball team. The CapQ for Houston nailed the exact known proper symbolism for this huge ‘weird’ win. This game will go down as a classic in World Series History. Jim’s analysis discusses/predicts, so far, very decent accuracy for the winning SMA symbolism for Houston.

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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by mikestar13 » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:43 pm

It was indeed predicted, both the win and the unusual/freaky nature of it--a powerful confirmation of SMA techniques. I was astonished at how far the freakishness went. This outdid a game that the Angels lost to the Detroit Tigers on July 4, 1968. 13-10 Tigers, with 13 runs in the second inning; 4 by the Angels, 9 by the Tigers. Wonder what the charts looked like for that game--Detroit was heavily favored, with the best team they had since Cobb played for them, but the game was seriously weird, just not as weird as this one. Last night's game IMHO entered miraculous territory--whether divine or diabolical depends on who you bet on.
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:39 pm

mikestar13 wrote:
Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:43 pm
...a game that the Angels lost to the Detroit Tigers on July 4, 1968. 13-10 Tigers, with 13 runs in the second inning; 4 by the Angels, 9 by the Tigers. Wonder what the charts looked like for that game--Detroit was heavily favored, with the best team they had since Cobb played for them, but the game was seriously weird, just not as weird as this one.
Detroit had a winning Capsolar, with a partile Mars-Jupiter opposition square Ascendant. The Arisolar was pretty happy with Venus on IC.

For the game day, transiting Jupiter squared Capsolar Asc almost to the minute, with transiting Pluto conjunct Capsolar MC. Wow! Even the CanQ had ingress Jupiter a few minutes from Eastpoint.

In Los Angeles, the Capsolar was dormant and the Cansolar had Mars square Ascendant - not a decisive indicator one way or the other. The Arisolar was embarrassing and otherwise mixed, with Neptune closely rising 03' from square Jupiter (which, itself, was not angular). The Capsolar-based daily charts said nothing, and the really decisive marks for the day were CanQ Asc square Saturn.
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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by SteveS » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:30 pm

New Vegas odds to win Series:
Astros: -280, Dodgers: +230
Odds for tonight's game: Astros -115, Dodgers +105
Astros have their Ace Pitcher on the mound.
Anyone who had the Astros to win this series--now are in a good hedge position by betting on the Dodgers to win the series and no matter who wins the series will win $. I will let my small wager ride on the Astros winning the series.

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Re: 2017 Worlds Series

Post by SteveS » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:53 am

Series tied 3-3.
Vegas has the Dodgers a favorite to win this World Series.
Astros + 147
Dodgers -157
If Dodgers win this series, I can find absolutely no SMA symbolism for a clear Dodgers win.

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