2020 Prez Election

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:24 am

Pence (June 7, 1959, Columbus, OH) has a Taurus Sun, probably Gemini Moon. Pelosi (March 26, 1940 in Baltimore) has a Pisces Sun, probably Libra Moon. If she was born pretty late in the day, she'd have a Scorpio moon, so could succeed Trump.

Wonder if a succession by impeachment would be like an induced birth, disrupting the astrological influences.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:41 am

Beto----is a----Virgo. Already has my vote if he becomes a candidate. :)

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Dec 09, 2018 12:12 pm

So Trump the Taurus-Scorpio to Pelosi the Pisces-Scorpio to O'Rourke the Virgo-Aries. Or if O'Rourke has a Taurus moon, Trump to O'Rourke.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:47 am

New Vegas odds posted today on 2020 Prez.

Dem to win Prez -120
Rep to win Prez Even

Trump + 150
Beto O’Rourke + 800
Joe Biden + 800
Kamala Harris + 1000
Bernie Sanders + 1200
Elizabeth + 2000

My opinions/observations: I think the odds for Beto & Biden were based on the straw polls by MoveOn showing Beto narrowly leading Biden. If Biden decides not to run, I think most of the Biden voters would vote for Beto. Note the Dems are favored to win 2020 Prez, but Vegas odds still has Trump as the clear favorite. Go figure??

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:08 am

The last point: A known polling factor is that people answer one way for general conceptual questions, and other ways for concrete. So, "who will win in 2016, Democrat or Republican" brought overwhelming Democrat. "Who will win 2016, Clinton or Trump" brought closer to even.

With regard to those numbers, I was proposing recently (to early, just a test idea) a ticket of Biden for President, O'Rourke for VP.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:21 am

Julian Castro has formed an exploratory committee to look into his running for president. I think that's like a pre-engagement. He was the head of HUD under Obama, is a Texan (and a twin) and has enough experience to actually do the job. I don't think O'Rourke does and would spend the first year correcting hireing mistakes.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:31 am

Jim wrote:
With regard to those numbers, I was proposing recently (to early, just a test idea) a ticket of Biden for President, O'Rourke for VP.
IMO, if this happens, it greatly reduces % for a DEM Prez win, I think much of the voting country is tired of the old DC status quo, and is looking for a young progressive face for Prez. Generally, when do candidates announce their run for Prez?

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:54 am

Announce within the next 12 months, probably 6.

Yes, I think you're right about what the extreme left wants. However, I think the odds of such a person beating Trump are quite small. Id like to "hedge the bet" - pick a solid, proven leader with deep experience AND a "fresh face" for the team with him or her.
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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:14 am

Thanks Jim.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sat Dec 15, 2018 8:13 am

CNN Poll has Biden in the lead for Dem Primary.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/14/politics ... index.html

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Dec 15, 2018 9:22 am

They haven't yet picked the city where the Democratic convention to nominate the candidate for 2020 will be held. It'll be one of Houston, TX, Miami Beach, FL, Milwaukee, WI, and Denver, CO, although it will be held July 13 - 16, 2020.
You could get a jump by running charts for each candidate you fancy in each city for that time frame.

The first primary will be Feb 3, 2020 (Iowa). Most state committees haven't chosen dates for their primaries yet.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:13 am

Latest news about Dem candidates for 2020 Prez:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... li=BBnb7Kz

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Wed Dec 26, 2018 8:41 am

The only reason anyone would announce now is that person is way too easily swayed by the glamour and adulation, or is trying to draw fire so others have the chance to get organized and maybe get some secret service protection. I'd love to see Hilary declare with tongue in cheek. She could shield the rest of them and Nancy Pelosi.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:33 am

There have been some slight changes for betting odds on 2020 Prez.

The Dems have increased there winning odds from a -120 to a -140
The Reps have become more of an underdog from a even odds bet to a +120

Trump is still a +150 to win 2020 Prez. No odd changes in the top 5 Dems winning Prez.

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Re: 2020 Prez Election

Post by SteveS » Tue Jan 01, 2019 3:50 am

New (slight changing) odds have been posted for the Dem Candidates with Beto now slightly leading the pack. Way to early to get carried away with these odds. Anyway, here are the top 4 Dems odds on favorite for 2020 Prez:

Beto +800
Biden +1000
Harris +1000
Warren +2000

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Julian Castro

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:11 am

We have our first official Democratic presidential contestant with a known birth time.

Julian Castro, former Obama cabinet member, officially announced his campaign today. He and his twin brother Joaquin were born September 16, 1974, in San Antonio, TX. According to Julian in a 7/16/16 NPR radio broadcast, he was born at 2:40 AM and Joaquin a minute later. (I believe this verbal report because twins and their family reports are extremely accurate about this sort of thing.)

A Leo Sun and Virgo Moon and Mars with Mercury-Pluto exactly on IC and Saturn more widely foreground. I'm concerned that his foreground Mercury-Saturn square will mean that people will find a way to "bad mouth" him as they did Hillary, and he doesn't have the luminary mix to easily succeed Trump. (He has a Virgo stellium, in fact: Moon, Mercury, Mars, Pluto.)

And his name is "Castro." (Ofcourse, Obama's middle name is "Houssein.")
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