Novien table

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Novien table

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:29 pm

I've recreated Fagan's Novien conversion table. Since Solar Fire doesn't calculate Noviens without a trick, this might be easier for some - plus, study of it discloses internal patterns of the Novien structure that one doesn't get just from calculating a Novien from software.

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Re: Novien table

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:39 pm

Example of use:

Pres. Biden's natal Moon is 7°02'42" Aries.

Using the table, 7° Aries (like 7° of any Imperial constellation) converts to 3° Libra.
From the bottom (Minutes) table, 02' converts to 0°18'.
Using the same table, 42" converts to 6'18" (reading deg/min as min/sec).

Adding these gives a Novien Moon as 3°24'18" Libra.


Second example:

Pres. Trump's natal Moon is 27°12'58" Scorpio.

Using the table, 27° Scorpio (like 2° of any Enigma constellation) converts to 3° Cancer.
From the bottom (Minutes) table, 12' converts to 1°48'.
Using the same table, 58" converts to 8'41" (reading deg/min as min/sec).

Adding these gives a Novien Moon as 4°56'41" Cancer.
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Re: Novien table

Post by Mike » Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:25 pm

I think I follow, but I also think you have some typos:
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Sat Jan 20, 2024 2:39 pm
Pres. Biden's natal Moon is 7°02'42" Aries.
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From the bottom (Minutes) table, 02' converts to 0°09'.
02' should convert to 0°18', right?

That would result in a Novien Moon position of 3°24'18" Libra, if I'm mathing correctly.
Pres. Trump's natal Moon is 27°12'58" Aries.
Should be Scorpio Moon, right? I follow the math otherwise.

Thanks for posting. I think this is valuable and I have some ideas for adding this output to my workflow (user-defined points).

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Re: Novien table

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Jan 23, 2024 10:49 pm

Thanks. Small corrections made above.
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