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Re: Article on Astrology becoming popular again

Post by SteveS » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:09 am

If you decide to promote your services to your facebook community, ‘What’s Happening In (your town/city)’, understand each town/city facebook community has their own individual rules. Here are the rules in my community, Springville.
Welcome - There's only 3 Rules:
1. Be nice
2. No cussing
3. Ads are only allowed on Mondays
If you're not sure ask by PM
I reserve the right to remove posts or members. 🙂
-admin

10 miles from Springville is a much larger community, Trussville. Their facebook community rules do not allow any adds. This presents no problem for me since my Sidereal Astrology classes are free, a public community service. *** Last night I learned most members on facebook community ‘What’s Happening In’---communicate (PM) with their members through an app called ‘Messenger.’ If you are going to join your facebook community, I highly recommend you download this free app. I love this way of communicating with my community members. You don’t have to give out your private e-mail or phone #. Last night, I started arrangements with Beth (Springville’s community Administrator) with Messenger’s PM, arranging a meeting with her at Springville’s Library about my Sidereal Astrology objectives for Springville’s community. I highly recommend if you become astrologically active in your facebook community—to contact the facebook community Administrator, making sure you do not overstep any community boundaries/rules. More community facebook instructions later.

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Re: Article on Astrology becoming popular again

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:39 am

Steve, as another path, do you know about meetup.com? It was a site originally created when the social trend had been away from people meeting in person (moving toward online interactions) - its founders wanted a way for people of common interests to find each other and get back to meeting in person. It's grown to be enormously successful and, in larger urban areas at least, quite important. You probably want to check it out.

There isn't a single Meetup group related to astrology within an hour of Springville. Looking at other activities of an "alternative" mature (meditation, metaphysics), it looks like Homewood (half an hour from you?) is an active area, especially at its library.
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Post by SteveS » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:11 am

8-) Jim, I will definitely check out meetup.com, particularly for Homewood. I am slowly expanding my Horizon with Jup on my Natal Asc, its so much fun. :) It is getting very interesting with my experiment with processing certain details for my free Sidereal Astrology classes.

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Post by SteveS » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:28 am

Met with the Administrator Wed about placing a permanent link for Sidereal Sun/Moon Sign on Facebook's Bulletin Board in Springville. She said she has no problem personally, but if she allowed one permanent link, she would have to cave to all the others wanting their permanent links, unfortunately make complete sense. She suggested an internet 'Bot.' Does anyone have any personal experience with a 'Bot' software? I understand its a Robot placing links on the internet.

Meanwhile, with my Sidereal Astrology experiment with t. Jupiter on my Natal Asc, I am being engulfed by very interested new students for my style of teaching Sidereal astrology which is damn sure proving to me there is indeed a demand market for astrology out there as JSAD's link article in this thread stated. In fact, the interested people seem to be desperate for learning astrology. I am easily reaching people born during the late 60's with the Uranus-Pluto conjunction. I will give out more details about what is happening after my first teaching class in April, but the class may be sooner judging by the apparent demand. I have got to get myself prepared for teaching Sidereal Astrology in a classroom. I have taught Census classes before as a crew leader with 30-40 people in class, so at least I have some experience teaching before a large group. I think all my fellow Sidereal Astrology friends on this forum should at least contemplate taking their style of Sidereal Astrology teachings to their community. The spark which lit the demand fire for Sidereal Astrology in my community started with a manager at a health food store 12 miles from my house. Come to find out, she is hooking me-up with all her customers. Its damn exciting, I now think I may not die of boredom. :) Thank goodness for our Jupiter transits. :)

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Re: Article on Astrology becoming popular again

Post by SteveS » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:22 am

Last week I read a-lot of Natal & Solar Return Charts with Rapid but Reliable Analysis and was asked: What is Sidereal Astrology? Not that this is the best answer, but I responded: Sidereal Astrology is based on the Sidereal Zodiac, the one and only true zodiac known and originated by the ancient astrologers but lost/unknown by most modern astrologers. I stated the Sidereal zodiac accurately computes the correct TIME for Return Charts which are the chief forecasters for World and People Return Charts. Nobody in the group I spoke to had heard of Sidereal Astrology.

How did I get thrust so fast before this group of people interested in astrology? As a complete experiment for me possibly teaching Sidereal Astrology, I walked into a health food store and told the manager (Kelly), I wanted to teach free Sidereal Astrology classes and handed her the following list of Astrological quotes I had collected in my life studying astrology. Kelly told me this list of astrological quotes impressed her greatly and she made copies and e-mailed to her close friends. She asked me if I would meet with a group of people to discuss Sidereal Astrology and explain with Sidereal Astrology the WHY for certain crisis in their lives. I said I would only do this if they gave her their birth times from their birth certificates.

ASTROLOGICAL QUOTES:
The greatest tool ever invented in the entire history of the world for exploring a great natural law mystery involving TIME, is the Personal Computer combined with today’s modern astrological program implementing Sidereal Astrology charting. This great technological tool allows for the first time in the entire history of the world, the learning of Sidereal Astrology for the layperson. This allows the ‘sacredness of TIME to be experienced in the commonplace of our lives.’ Sidereal Astrology charting with the Personal Computer has the potential for acting as a possible healing elixir for the human race in many positive ways. Before the modern invention of the Personal Computer/Astrological programs, only the mathematician/astronomer (few) had sight into the charting of Sidereal Astrology. SteveS

TIME, is the most important factor in the determination of human affairs. Sidereal Astrology charting distinguishes certain individual TIME cycles with certain Charts, relative only to an accurate birth TIME! SteveS

TIME is the soul of the world. Pythagoras

“For the serious astrologer, their work is not about predicting an event. An astrologer who claims great ability to predict an event is a charlatan and discredits the true study and principles of astrology.” Alice O. Howell

"Astrology per se is a language: it is the language of universal processes. It shows correspondences between levels of creation and levels of consciousness. This gives astrology a function quite apart from its importance in chart interpretation and makes the subject priceless to anyone seeking a key to understanding. Astrology allows the experience of the sacred in the commonplace." Alice O. Howell.

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Re: Article on Astrology becoming popular again

Post by SteveS » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:28 am

"To the astrologer, or at least to what I call the analytical astrologer, the natal chart virtually represents a living map to the kingdom of heaven which lies within." -Alice O. Howell

"Only when we change our consciousness do the outer events begin to follow suit." Alice O. Howell

"All great truths are contained in symbols - Astrology uses symbols as its language - Astrology is the algebra of life." Alice O. Howell

"One has to see astrology as a symbolic language uniting the outer and inner." Alice O. Howell

"Fate is simply that part of our lives which has to be acted out in the outer world, because we have remained unconscious or refused to be conscious of that something in ourselves which precipitated it in the first place." Alice O. Howell

"Astrology is a most beautiful symbolic language of processes which function on both the physical and the psyche level." Alice O. Howell

"Originally, back in ancient Egypt astrology united science and religion. In later times both science and religion rejected astrology. Since then astrology continues to be studied quietly by a few, but in the last 100 years, astrology is again beginning to shed its golden light." Alice O. Howell

"A natal chart yields a description of how a person is likely to process experience. In view of this, astrology is not about "fortune telling" or about describing the actuality of a situation, but rather how each person would tend to respond to a situation." Alice O. Howell

"Astrology has tremendous potential in serving psychotherapy." Alice O. Howell

"The true learning of astrology is it has to be lived, but before astrology can be lived, it has to be learned, and the living/learning never stops. Alice O. Howell

"Saturn cycles has to do with acquiring spiritual understanding which leads to wisdom." Alice O. Howell


"The vehement appearance of the depressing and limiting Saturn influence in anyone's life is usually a token that the time for higher spiritual development has come." C.A.Q. Libra

"Astrology teaches us how, by calculations, to find the time when inharmonious energies will be liable to manifest, and so we can arm ourselves beforehand and stand firm toward the time of a possible personal crisis." C.A.Q. Libra.

"Negative cosmic conditions are relative and serves to make us wiser by hard experiences and prepare us for a higher state of consciousness." C.A.Q. Libra.

"The earnest study of Astrology makes us broadminded because it demonstrates clearly that different people must have a different sphere and it shows us that sphere in astrological symbols. Astrology makes us therefore tolerant with people of a different opinion. The astrologer knows and understands that different people must think and seek in different directions, so he does not criticize different minded people sharply or disapprovingly, because their conception of truth differs from his/hers. He/she knows that their conception is the correct one to them, the exactly fitting one for helping them on in their evolution." C.A.Q. Libra.

"Actually, students/clients end up being astrologer’s best teachers!" Alice O. Howell

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Post by SteveS » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:13 am

"A natal chart is a sacred precinct, a holy place, because it describes most certainly a place where God dwells in us as a Divine Guest. The natal chart is a map to the kingdom of heaven, which is within, and a symbolic depiction of limitless potential. No astrologer can define another person; our task is always to point for the student, no more, no less." Alice O. Howell

"Know that astrological study involves a spiritual dimension, since astrology mediates between inner and outer worlds and that its practice and learning is for guidance and healing." Alice O. Howell

"No one astrologer can teach a new student of astrology how to become an astrologer. Teaching astrologers can only help point the new student for astrology with solid learning foundations A new student of astrology can only become an astrologer in his or her own way. Astrology has to be lived to be understood, and living astrology is a lifelong process." Alice O.
CEO Carter says about Astrology:
Philosophical:
"It endeavors to set forth a coherent and scientifically verifiable scheme of cosmic manifestation.

Ethical:
It traces the interactions between the cosmos and the human mind and soul and studies the true nature events in the outer world. It gives understanding of others, and ourselves, and consequently broadens the sympathies and enlarges the outlook.

Spiritual and Religious:
It endeavors to understand the essential nature of the divine ordinances and the ministers of divine power, in so for as is humanly possible.

Practical:
By explaining the operations of cosmic laws, it enables us to adapt our lives to them, and to advise and assist others to make the most of their lives, without waste of time and effort.
Our knowledge of astrology is very far from complete. It is still seriously studied by comparatively few, and it is overlaid with the growth of centuries of ignorance and charlatanism....

Practical experiment will soon convince the most skeptical that the bodies of the solar system indicate, if they do not actually produce, changes in: 1. Our minds 2. Our feelings and emotions 3. Our physical bodies 4. Our external affairs and relationships with the world at large.

Astrology is a science in itself and contains an illuminating body of knowledge. It taught me many things, and I am greatly indebted to it. Astrology is like a life- giving elixir for mankind.

"Psychology textbooks of future generations will look back on modern psychologists working without the aid of astrology as being like medieval astronomers working without the aid of the telescope. -Richard Tarnas


"To study Astrology without realizing each individual has their own personal psychology is impossible."- Reinhold Ebertin.


"The physician, who is ignorant of the science of astrology, deserves the name of fool rather than that of physician." Hippocrates

"Hail him who follows not the erring ways, but the order of the light of nature. He is the remedy and the healer." Paracelaus

"God geometrizes." Plato

"The numbers, the signs, the constellations, nature, they all are connected with the secrets of the Christian religion." Kepler

"From the external we learn to know the internal." Paracelus

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious." Albert Einstein

"God works in mysterious ways".

"Real passion for me is always contingent upon mystery" -Rita May Brown

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Post by SteveS » Wed Feb 28, 2018 9:49 am

"Most ancient religions are based on the following simple principle: The primary manifestation of divinity observable in this world is the motion of the heavenly bodies." Rob Hand

"The highest objective of metaphysics is to study the stars because the stars are divinities." Rob Hand

"Modern religion is a screen thrown over the mysterious universe." Rob Hand

"There is no universal objective reality. All reality is determined by the conscious that perceives reality and the above statement is implicit in astrology." -Rob Hand

"My primary motivation for studying astrology is that if astrology is true, the prevailing world view is not true. My life purpose is to overthrow what I consider as being an evil reality paradigm." -Rob Hand


"The same nature which delights in periodical repetition in the skies is the nature which orders the affairs of the earth. Let us not underrate the value of that hint. Mark Twain

"Astrology contains a bedrock of real truth." R.A. Wilson

"Some books are to be tasted, others are to be swallowed, and some
few to be chewed and digested" -Bacon

“Modern education is to the mind what Aids is to the immune system.” John Anthony West.

"Man, know thyself and thou wilt know the universe and the Gods." Delphi Oracle (One of the best ways to ‘know thyself’ is through the study of astrology).


"To everything there is a Season and a Time to every purpose under Heaven." Ecclesiastics; The Bible

Synchronicity:
A causal view of TIME in which relevant coincidences occur-a coincidence of an outer event with an inner psychic meaning. (The astrological chart mediates through synchronicity.)


"There is no magic in astrology except as may reside in its illumination of the path of destiny, thus making it safer, easier, and faster. In other words, astrology rates merely as the greatest of all instruments for the successful management of life, but which, like any other instrument, yields its results according to the volume of human will and intelligence available to use it" Paul Councel

“One of the real benefits of Astrology, properly practiced, is that it presents us with proof of things greater than ourselves—of divinity.” Zoeller

But the highest of all learning is the knowledge of the stars. To trace their course is to untangle the threads of the mystery of life from beginning to end. If we could follow them perfectly, nothing would be hidden from us. Henry Van Dyke

The study of astrology expands consciousness.

It is the basis of astrology, which as Schwaller showed, profoundly influenced every aspect of ancient Egyptian life.

The serious study of ancient Egypt reveals a high sacred science. It is an absolute tragedy that our history books and academic Egyptology perpetuates the ancient Egyptian civilization ruled by a superstitious people. Ancient Egypt was regarded by Greece and Rome as the source of all Wisdom.


We cannot impose our wills on nature unless we first learn what her will is. Working without regard to natural law brings nothing but failure; working with natural law enables us to do what at first seemed impossible. Astrology is part of natural law.


An astrologer’s task for themselves is to seek the truth, find the truth, and then live the truth.

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Re: Article on Astrology becoming popular again

Post by SteveS » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:07 am

I am presently involved with my Sidereal Astrology with a woman (Kelly) who is a manager of a health food store (Golden Temple), who has asked me to personally teach her Sidereal Astrology at the store in between customers. She has told me she knows dozens of people who are starved for a deeper understanding of astrology and I have seen strong evidence of this being true, which I think dove-tails with JSAD’s link article in this topic. FWIW, it was my above posted listed astrological quotes given to Kelly which she copied and gave to others which acted as a catapult for drawing interested people in astrology to the Golden Temple health food store. This has and is still developing as my individual Experiment with the public involving possible new students for Sidereal Astrology prompted by JSAD link article. I have read a current SSR (Jim’s teachings) for an African American male and he was so impressed he told me there are so many in his community who are very interested in learning Sidereal Astrology. The other day he wanted to bring several of his friends to the store for signature Natal readings. So far, 95% of the people who have come to the store receiving their Natal Charts have led crisis lives with acute malefic symbolism. They have been asking themselves---WHY ME---and are beginning to see with Sidereal Astrology the explanation for WHY.

But recently, there has been a significant obstacle. The owner of Golden Temple is one of Kelly’s 3 ex husbands and Kelly has strong professional and past emotional love ties with her ex. Kelly says he has become extremely jealous of me and her drawing lots of interested people in astrology to Golden Temple. As a former business person, I can clearly understand the ex-concerns as a business man. He is afraid the word will get out Golden Temple will become known as an astrological center and hurt his business in the long run. Kelly insists he is wrong and that people coming to Golden Temple interested in Sidereal Astrology are buying health food products increasing business. Kelly is trying to get her ex to agree to set-up group meetings after hours, but this also presents certain problems: Most people are working jobs to survive and at night are dealing with raising kids, Kelly has a 14 year old which occupies most of her spare time after business hours, and a daughter in Atlanta who is expecting Kelly’s first grandchild in April---it’s a busy, busy world out there with limited time to spare. I have plenty of time to spare but other people who are very interested in learning Sidereal Astrology have very limited time. Kelly and I are trying to work-out a system where I will write-out mini lessons for Sidereal Astrology, and then Kelly makes copies of these mini lessons to give to interested new students in Sidereal Astrology, but only after they buy certain Sidereal Astrology books. I think this may be a good idea which at least gives the new student for Sidereal Astrology a start, and a possible good way for me to pass on the tremendous astrological knowledge contained within Sidereal Astrology. Kelly says most feedback from her friends are most interested in relationship astrology. Kelly says from a commercial standpoint people would be willing to pay a good fee for better understanding with their close relationships. Kelly has seen relationship readings provided by Solarfire but says it contains way too much information. I told her if the relationship readings by Solarfire could be reduced to only the 0,90,180 aspects with the four personal points of the Sun, Moon, Asc, Mc, their may be a commercial way to supply lots of good comparison readings to people without any group meetings, provided of course, if a birth certificate birth time was available. Anyway, I am having lots of fun with this experiment. :)

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Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:27 am

Steve, look here: https://alabe.com/solarfirehelp/index.h ... s_used.htm
There's instruction on editing an interpretations file in the links on the left.

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:54 am

If he just needs different aspects, the key is to set the orbs (aspect list) that you want before running the interp. But if you want to exclude a lot of planet pairs (e.g., everything from Jupiter-Saturn on out, or anything that doesn't include a personal point) then, yes, you can just delete them from the file.

I've found it easiest to decompile the interpretation files (it's a menu option when you Edit an interp file) and then manually edit it in Notepad.
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Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:10 am

He said he wanted to eliminate everything but conjunctions, oppositions and squares in synastry charts. I think he may just need to use a different aspect set for synastry that only includes those aspects.

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Post by SteveS » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:56 am

Thanks JSAD & Jim for the feedback, I have little experience with comparison charts but understand where ya'll are coming from pertaining to this area of astrology. Depending on what Kelly wants to do, I am certain I will get back to you on this matter. I am trying to talk her into purchasing Solarfire.

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Post by SteveS » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:46 am

If any member of this forum who one day may decided to take Sidereal Astrology into their community, Jim has just written a new Natal Chart interpretation file for Solarfire. I am sure Jim’s new Natal Chart interpretations will become a key for any Sidereal Astrologer who is interested in generating quick/easy Sidereal Natal Chart interpretations. It will take Jim a few weeks to tweak and complete this new free Solarfire file which can be downloaded at the following link.
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:29 pm

Steve, what's happening with your class? I lost track... thought you planned to start it by now, but haven't heard anything about it.
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Post by SteveS » Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:53 pm

Kelly Love who was going to organize all the class students with her the main trusted friends for the students ran into a major problem. Her Boss who owned the 3 health food stores in the B'ham area was also her ex husband, and at the time of my contact with Kelly, she was still living with him on a part time basis. He told Kelly to drop the Astrology stuff, saying it could damage his customer base (go figure), or find another Job. He was a control freak and became very jealous of all of Kelly's friends coming into the store asking me all kinds of questions about their past and future astrology lives. I dropped the teaching experiment, a big turn off with what happen with Kelly's ex. Kelly had a large metaphysical group of friends with a solid base to start teaching classes, no-way I am going to interfere or get mixed-up in that type negative energy field possibly jeopardizing Kelly's job-career security. How are your teaching classes going?

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:27 pm

This is all quite too bad. Any chance you can fid a community center and go ahead anyway?

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Post by SteveS » Mon Jun 04, 2018 6:59 am

Jim, I have a free community center to teach students, but it is 40-50 miles from metro/population center. I have discovered (again) most students who are interested in learning astrology are women, it was the same back in the 70's, the Golden Age for learning students with my generation. Today's women who are interested can't seem to find the time for classes. On weekends, they are either baby sitting there grandchildren or too busy with other necessary tasks before they get back to the grind of work. I gave Kelly's group a list of Sidereal Astrology books to read and told them I would be glad to help them with any questions over the phone, but no responses. Kelly wants to learn and has gotten a laptop but I told her the best way for her to learn is to get SF because I have SF, but the high price is a deterrent. I told her about the free programs which I could help her but so far she has not access the program. Between managing the health store 40 hours a week and her 3 kids & new grandchild, there is no time on weekends, same for most of her friends who are very interested in Astrology. The best I can tell from my experiment, the new generation wants to read what other astrologers are saying about their Sun Signs with their future, just as you understood about doing mini readings with what you were explaining in posts a while back. There is a large interest in the Astrology with the two generations behind my generation, but no time to apply for serious personal learning's. They all seem to be getting their astrology 'on the run' with online sources. By what I have learned, if was going to try to do another teaching experiment, I would try to get a foothold in a college for a regular teaching class in a semester, but I have my doubts with the culture of academics here in the South.

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Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:40 am

Steve, don't you have a metaphysical bookstore in Birmingham? It's probably Wiccan oriented, but they may have room to offer classes evenings or weekends. I'd check that out.

Kelly can do most of what you can do with Solar Fire on astro.com and it won't cost her anything. It doesn't do a lot of the experimental stuff that's exciting to talk about here, and it does not do mundoscopes, even though it says it does, but if you're checking transits and progressions, lunars and solars, even midpoints, it works and works well.

If you tell me what charts Kelly needs, I will tell you how to specifically set up those charts on astro.com so you can write up instructions for her.

And look into other places, like metaphysical bookstores or even a local library branch that has a room you can use to teach in. Libraries are good resources to find places like that, and ask at banks too. They often have meeting rooms they'll let people use. We had a horticultural group that met in the basement of a local bank Sunday evenings till we outgrew their room.

Take a little time to regroup, and then look around. I think you'll find there are other places. Maybe not as good, but maybe better.

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Post by SteveS » Tue Jun 05, 2018 5:15 am

Thanks JSAD, I will give some thought to your ideas. :)

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