
At the risk of sending you into a new frenzy... have you tried solar and lunar returns of Composites yet?

Don't really know how to do these Jim. Need your input to learn more.have you tried solar and lunar returns of Composites yet?
I guess you can just make a chart of the composite as if it was a natal and then dynamically move the solar arcs to see planetary hits.But I really need to be able to dynamically put these composite charts into motion with Solarfire to spot check lots of composite charts
Not possible. I do wish SF had a feature where you could just input positions and store as a chart, but it doesn't (and, in fact, it would be quite difficult given how SF works). The Composite never existed at any point in history as an actual chart, so you can't calculate it from a time or place.
Yes, and your above words prompted me to first look at angular hits with my wife’s and I composite chart using SAs at 1 degree a year for arcing the midpoints of the composite to the angles, and arching the angles to the composite midpoints. There is one thing we know for sure with SAs and standard charting: angular hits with 0,90,180 times major life events, more so with the 0 & 180 imo. I simplified a mental composite exercise with my composite chart (thanks to your SA observation Arena), first starting with the composite midpoint of my Saturn since I quickly noticed in 13 years from the beginning of our marriage (Jan 1971), composite Saturn SA to composite ASC. This definitely timed the worst economic and emotional downer in the entire history of our 48 year relationship—this intrigued me. Next, I mentally checked to see when our composite relationship experienced the time frame when a SA angle arced to a benefic composite midpoint. I mentally noticed our SA ASC would arc to the partile cnj of composite Sun-Venus in app 21 years from Jan 1971, this just so happened to be within one year when SA MC arched to 180 composite Jupiter. So we have these two important benefic hits with SA angles to our composite chart in 1991-1992: SA ASC = SUN-VENUS and SA MC = JUPITER! This exactly produced the best time in our 48 year relationship from an economic and very happy time in our 48 year relationship! This was the exact time my wife and and cashed-out of our careers by selling our Theater business to a large Theater circuit. I though to myself: Damn, am I discovering something important with this simple SA angular exercise with a composite chart? I am just now beginning to see/understand what Hand saw when he first began to investigate the composite chart and then writing his definitive book on composite charting.Like you see I asked if there was a particularly Saturnian period 13 years into the marriage because I see the comp AC regresses to Saturn at that time. I was not checking midpoint hits, but I guess that could be explored as well.
Both Townley and Hand stated they were very impressed using the composite chart with more than two natives which intrigues me very much, but SF will not allow the calculation more than two natives composite chart. This peaks my interest from a family standpoint particularly with dysfunctional families as one unit.… particular stress laid on personal relationships such as friendship, love affairs, marriage, and the like, but with very little stretching of the imagination they can be applied to almost any kind of human relationship, profession, family , or whatever.
I feel strongly we can improve upon Townley/Hand's systems of analyzing the composite chart with simple principles of Sidereal Astrology!I have found the technique of composite charts, as described in this book, to be the most reliable and descriptive new astrological technique that I have ever encountered.
What I really want to be able to do is further testing of the composite chart with standard SA directing with a beginning marriage and an ending divorce as probably one of the major events in a relationship composite life. It certainly livens-up my retired life.…must develop techniques of analysis based on their individual experience, and no one should use my experience or anyone else’s as a substitute for his or her own.
No problem with that, ofcourse - it's a close estimate and can be fine-tuned later. Because each person's individual Solar Arc is about 1°/year, the average of the two is about 1°/year.SteveS wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:04 amI am taking the composite chart as no different than a natal chart and using the cosmobiologist system of Solar Arching the planets and angles, using a simple count of app 1 degree = 1 year since I can’t dynamically set the composite chart-up with SF, basically no different than we would Solar Arc natal planets and natal angles for SA Directions isolating incidents/events in an astrological Natal Life.
Of course. And this makes the wedding chart itself a valid "radical" chart. Even with people for whom it is not the kind of event you describe, it is still a significant legal contract, and those akso are valid charts (valid "starts") on their own.
I'm not sure what that means. A Composite chart is a product of two (or more) other birth charts and exists as soon as both people are born. It exists decades before they actually knew each other.. It doesn't begin at some other date later in time.In other words, the way I understand Hand's book, the composite chart is the beginning chart with an actual marriage!
One can certainly choose to start a relationship whenever one wants, but the Composite chart is a mathematical product that exists independent of when a relationship starts. One can have (has!) a Composite chart with billlions of people one will never meet. (It's not good for anything, but the Composite exists in each case because it's simply a relationship.)Steve wrote:IMO, one can start a relationship composite at any specific time they so choose, only they would know the best time to possibly start a Composite from a possible beginning point.
Because relationships are the priority! It seems to me since Composite teachings came out so long ago preceding the personal computer, astrologers worldwide would relish a new book with lots of examples mixed for the first time with certain Sidereal Astrology teachings, now with a PC in most households. I was very familiar with all of Robert Hand's seminar teachings back in the 70's-80s, and never did I see any specific seminars from him or any other astrologer on the Composite Chart. But maybe a wider astrological audience in California at that time?Why is a new book needed?
You got that right!One must simply live long enough..
Applying 1°/year from that time forward, nothing at all is partile this year.Arena wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:24 pmAnd Jim, can you please tell us what you see when you move your composite from the time you actually started the courtship with your partner and then if something special is going on this year, 2019, when the couple gets married? Just by moving one degree for each year from the start date of your relationship until now?
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