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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:42 am

Until now I've always thought I'm a Leo. But yeah I can only wish to be regal.
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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:13 am

Jupiter line - not the place to be if your Jupiter is in detriment/fall in your chart.
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Re: Looking for my place

Post by SteveS » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:29 am

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:54 am

Strangely on days where my autoimmune disease is flared even here it’s difficult. Too bad I can’t get help for it as it’s a rare disease and most doctors haven’t even heard about it. It’s mostly brain fog, anxiety, fear of people and social situations, shaking hands, joint pain, and abdominal pain/inflammation. Avoiding wheat helps but in fact it’s triggered by sth physical. POIS sucks and the only cure is abstinence...

It’s really a curse as no one knows why or how one can become “allergic” to themselves. It’s like I become anxiety-prone from it and I fear any social interraction or proximity to people. In such days I get triggered anxiety response by anyone so I end up going home to hide.

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Mar 25, 2018 1:59 am

Beyond wheat, it might be that you need to eliminate all non-fiber (i.e., digestible) carbohydrates entirely. The ketogenic diet builds on the body's ability to create all the energy it needs from fats in the absence of carbs - but only in the absence. The formula is very high fat, fairly high protein, and essentially zero net (digestible) carbs (10-20 mg/dy max).

It's the mixture of carbs and fats in the same diet that causes several kinds of problems, so one should generally choose one or the other; but carbohydrates create a higher level of inflammation, which underlies a lot of health problems including flaring most autoimmune problems. Their elimination (all sugars and starches except for unavoidable trace amounts) quiets those problems. I wonder what result you would see after 430, then after 90 days of eating this way.
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Re: Looking for my place

Post by DDonovanKinsolving » Sun Mar 25, 2018 10:30 am

martin88 wrote:
Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:54 am
Strangely on days where my autoimmune disease is flared even here it’s difficult.
I can't pretend to be an expert on this; I had to look it up.

If autoimmune inflammation is involved, it occurred to me that turmeric might be helpful as an addition to whatever other remedies you might try. Do an internet search on "autoimmune turmeric" or "autoimmune turmeric POIS" and you should get results for consideration.

Since POIS is rare, addressing it with solutions far from the usual "norm" of treatment, diet or whatever, would seem to be expected.

-Derek
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Re: Looking for my place

Post by SteveS » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:45 am

Derek wrote:
If autoimmune inflammation is involved, it occurred to me that turmeric might be helpful...
FWIW, I am looking at a bottle of Turmeric Root Extract now which I have been taking for the last few days. Why I am taking Turmeric? Because my Psychic told me I had some inflammation in my body--not much--but enough I needed to treat. I went to my health food store and asked what is the best supplement I can take for inflammation in the body and she asked: for pain or no pain--I said no pain, and she said the best supplement I can take is Turmeric Root Extract. If you are in pain because of inflammation in the body, I can ask my health food guru what is the best supplement to take.

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Re: Looking for my place

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:56 pm

I don’t see which in my chart speaks of poor health as I have additional issues like a connective tissue problem, a psychic told me.

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Re: Looking for my place

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:44 pm

martin88 wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:55 pm
I wonder if listening to a Venus energy frequency would be beneficial to make my Venus stronger? I'm afraid I might turn feminine lol, but I DO need more Venusian energy.
If encouraging your expression of Venus helps you get along with people, and you like that effect, then yeah, it would be beneficial.
Turning feminine is not a thing. All men have Venus in their charts and their psyches, just as all women have Mars. Even if it was a thing, if you felt it was going too far, that's totally under your control, and you can stop listening to so much of it.
But it's not a thing.

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Re: Looking for my place

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by SteveS » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:18 am

Martin, try to remember all relocation to benefic planetary line should first be preceded with first, practical secure economic employment, and as you have proven with your post, all benefic planetary lines does not necessarily mean the right stuff for a well rounded life. I see happy people relocated to non-benefic planetary lines, probable because of their Natal aspects--not their relocated angular stuff.

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:04 am

Steve, I agree. My native land is near my Jupiter line, but it's always been hard to get a job here!
Someone told me relocating near the lines of your least aspected lanets might be benefitial. I think my least aspected planets are Mercury and Venus. Not sure if true if one of those aspects is an opposition with Saturn. ;)

Something interesting is that despite the Jupiter line, my birth country is not on a very good location:
Crossing Neptune/Moon's Nodes / 5905 km

The quality of this connection does not lend itself particularly well to worldly pursuits. Hopes and ideals are probably too high to meet anyone's expectation. If this is the case, there will be disappointments sooner or later. This especially applies to encounters made along this line to latitude. At first, they might appear in a favourable light but soon reality catches up. Promises are not kept, hopes dashed and in the worst-case scenario, there can be intrigues and deceit. With all new contacts, do not become blinded by the apparent perfectness of conditions. Enjoy the romantic moments but guard against any concrete intentions and arrangements.
It's so very true for me! Apparently other countries further north ot south near my Jupiter line could be more positive. Maybe this explains not feeling like truly fitting in. In general, it seems like the best places for me seem to be located near the North/South or/and West/East extremes in Europe. :roll:

Central/Middle Europe was quite bad (Jupiter square Ascendant - Astro.com lists it as disappointments of all kinds - it was correct).

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by SteveS » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:50 am

Martin wrote:
Something interesting is that despite the Jupiter line, my birth country is not on a very good location:
For sure, interesting and a very practical observation Martin, something I can clearly understand as an important factor when considering relocating from a Jupiter line in your native birth country. Only you know what you are experiencing on your native Jupiter line. I was born on a Jupiter line and did not necessarily like a-lot of the cultural values in my birth location, but, as an adult I could see the great benefics of Jupiter working in my life from a business standpoint, so good, I would be a fool to leave my Jupiter line. There are many practical factors to consider for re-location, and I see you have a very good grasp for re-locational astrology. I wish you happy vibes on finding a good location. I see more and more people very interested in re-location astrology using the principles of Sidereal Astrology. Maybe one day Jim could write a Report on re-location astrology using Sidereal Astrology and the functions in his favorite astrological program Solarfire, in order to help more people better understand. Did you happen to see/read Jim’s thread/topic on re-locating his current Sidereal Solar Return? If not, I highly recommend reading/studying his thought processes in relocating his malefic SSR to a benefic SSR with the options he had for choosing a re- location. Even though Jim’s topic was for relocating a SSR, the same principles would apply for a Natal Chart.

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:09 am

Steve, I wish you happy holidays and to others here on the board, too! :)

It's interesting that you say business matters. I actually have seen little business success whatsoever in my home city. It's the biggest city in my country but so far I haven't enjoyed any worldly success here. I'm job-free since I came back here in June, I didn't pass any of the many interviews. :lol: I get jobs abroad more easily somehow. I don't know what's the issue here except for Chiron being in my 10th house. Perhaps the minor Pluto trine/sextile AS line? Along to the Jupiter and Pluto line it has a small Sun trine/sextile MC line as well. But in Athens or Poland and further south/north this Pluto line has a lesser or none effect. All I know is I was able to make more friendhips near my otherwise emotinally moody Moon IC line in Slovakia than I've ever done in my home city. I bet this Pluto aspect might've sth to do with that. Pluto is not a good influence on me, certainly, although I'm not certain which of these is the real issue:

Pluto in the Third House in Scorpio; Sun Square Pluto; Neptune Sextile Pluto; Pluto Sextile Ascendant

Moon Opposition Midheaven natally makes it very hard to live away from my birth home. Could a relocation in a place where this opposition doesn't exist in a relocation chart (e.g. Western Europe) be benefitial?

Edit, this is from another astrology forum:
I went to University in the town my Jupiter/MC line runs through. I really never had any options when choosing the University town, this was it, I knew I wanted to study there. I also met my Husband there, but had really rough time finding work. Interestingly, I would have since had another opportunity for the work in the area.
Link: https://www.elsaelsa.com/forum/astrolog ... =firefox-b So it's not just me apparently lol. :lol:

I will certainly seek Jim's thread. BTW, on the previous page he proved very wise on the rough transits I have right now. AFAIK, Pluto is still opposing my Mercury and will continue in 2019. I'm waitingfor the Chiron square Uranus transit to go away. Thankfully, the Chiron square Saturn one just ended. Kind regards and happy Xmass to all! :)

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by Veronica » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:18 pm

Hope you have a very Merry Christmas Martin and I hope your health and finances turn for the best.

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:56 am

Thanks, Veronica!
Is anyone using lattitudes/crossings? I just discovered this function in AstroClick Travel. I go to Scalable Google Map and tick the checkbox next to "Show details". So while my birth city is supposed to be a good place as it's nearby a Jupiter and a Sun line, its lattitude is not so nice.
Lines: Jupiter/MC Line 52 km; Sun trine/sextile MC 32 km; Pluto trine/sextile AS 59 km; Chiron trine/sextile AS 191 km; Neptune trine/sextile AS 248 km The following points are located at the same geographical latitude and have therefore an influence: Crossing Neptune/Moon's Nodes; Crossing Jupiter/Moon's Nodes; Crossing Moon/Moon's Nodes; Crossing Sun/Moon
While most of these are nice, this one isn't and it actually matches my experience:
Crossing Neptune/Moon's Nodes at Same Latitude: The quality of this connection does not lend itself particularly well to worldly pursuits. There will be disappointments sooner or later. This especially applies to encounters made along this line to latitude.
- just my experience. It's very hard to meet people and make friendships here! I made more friendhips for 1 year nearby my Moon line in Central Europe than I've ever done here!
I either have to go to Greece, Spain or Germany:

My crossings for Athens: Crossing Moon/Jupiter; Crossing Jupiter/Pluto; Crossing Sun/Moon; Crossing Venus/Mars; Crossing Chiron/Uranus - very good, but I consider it a nice place for a vacation only, not very fond of the local culture tbh. ;)

*For Southern Spain (Almeria): Lines: Chiron trine/sextile MC 131 km; Neptune trine/sextile MC 244 km; Corssings: Jupiter/Pluto; Sun/Moon; Chiron/Uranus

*For Bavaria, Germany: Lines: Mercury trine/sextile MC 83 km; Uranus trine/sextile AS 111 km; Jupiter square AS 145 km; Saturn trine/sextile AS 149 km; Moon square AS 178 km; Crossings: Mars/Chiron; Venus/Uranus; Sun/Jupiter; Moon/Mercury; Moon/Mercury (two of them). In Norhtern Germany I don't gave the Moon square AS line influence, but I have a Venus/Saturn crossing on that lattitude. Yet, I have been attracted to Germany and living there. Apparently, I have nice places in France (not really attracted to it) and the Southern-most places in Spain and Greece. Funchal/Madeira is the best place for me in Europe, but the economy there is not supportive of a job. :roll: All of those places seem lovely but for a vacation, I don't picture myself living long-term there. As I've said I've been attracted to Germanic and Nordic cultures as they're more social and make for great places to raise a family. I'm also very meticulous and prefer clean/safe places with good infrastructure. Southern Europe is too chaotic for my liking lol.

I see Jim has used those crossings on the first page. In my personal experience they matter, as well as any lines nearby. What I've found irrelevant is the relocated chart. I think the Crossing Chiron/Neptune in Bratislava made it a stressful place.

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Gypsi » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:46 am

This is a very interesting topic I want to look into more.

Typically I use Tropical astrology - rather than SR. Is there a difference in astrocartography?

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Re: Relocation help needed

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Gypsi wrote:
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Typically I use Tropical astrology - rather than SR. Is there a difference in astrocartography?
No, there isn't.
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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by martin88 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 pm

Does anyone know how Astrocartography relates to past lives and being attracted to a place?
I like many a well-off, well-organized countries like Scandinavian ones but I don't have that much parans there. I have better ones in Germany and as a kid I was attracted to German TV. I also like Poland since a long time, but most cities there are not very positive, except two of them and one is nearby my Moon IC line (as a Scorpio moon would be too moody?). I am really uncertain whether I should follow my gut feeling or go with what ACG tells me? I've never been really attracted by Greece, yet in continential Europe it seems like Athens is the best place for me.

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Arena » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:37 am

martin88 you said:
"It’s mostly brain fog, anxiety, fear of people and social situations, shaking hands, joint pain, and abdominal pain/inflammation. ...

It’s really a curse as no one knows why or how one can become “allergic” to themselves."

It is not true that no one knows. Most doctors don't know, but there are actually a few who do and have been studying this for decades. One of them is called Dr. Shoemaker and he has found methods to measure things in your blood to find out that many many people with these symptoms you describe and have been diagnosed with "autoimmune" diseases actually have been exposed to mould toxins to the point where the intoxication brings the immune system into a disease. He also treats people and helps them to get their health back, which often includes leaving the house they live in for an extended period. Sometimes the house needs to be renovated because there are leakages or have been damp problems in the past (it can be years ago) and many times the people who have the condition have no idea that the damp or leakage problem exists in their house (or work place) so they will need a specialist to help them find the problem to be able to eliminate it.
Please consult Dr. Shoemaker or ask him if he knows a doctor near you that has the knowledge. (Most doctors don't have this knowledge because it is not included in their medical education - but some biologists or an expert on toxic substances may be able to help). But the research in this area is becoming more and more known and the WHO has issued a warning about this. Nowadays we also see a lot of Indoor Air conferences that deal with this issue.

http://www.survivingmold.com/

https://www.survivingmold.com/diagnosis

https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker ... in-my-area

The problem is not that people are allergic to themselves, the problem is that people are allergic to mould toxins called mycotoxins and their immune system/body responds. The problem with the diagnosis is that the doctor doesn't know what is wrong.

Here is another website full of resources:
http://www.mold-help.org/

And here is an interesting documentary about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfk0gKbQBuM

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:59 am

Mold toxins, yes. Also way more people in the US have one of the tick-borne illnesses than most people believe. The interesting thing is, you get tested while your immune system is fighting well, the titers for the disease don't show anything. Until you've been treated for a couple weeks, there's not enough bacterial toxin in your blood to show up. We learned that from treating our dogs.

There's also demodectic mange. People do get it, but they don't lose patches of hair to a red rash. They get rosacea and some forms of cystic acne and even eczemas.

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Arena » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:08 am

martin88 wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 pm
Does anyone know how Astrocartography relates to past lives and being attracted to a place?
I like many a well-off, well-organized countries like Scandinavian ones but I don't have that much parans there. I have better ones in Germany and as a kid I was attracted to German TV. I also like Poland since a long time, but most cities there are not very positive, except two of them and one is nearby my Moon IC line (as a Scorpio moon would be too moody?). I am really uncertain whether I should follow my gut feeling or go with what ACG tells me? I've never been really attracted by Greece, yet in continential Europe it seems like Athens is the best place for me.
I've read somewhere that your nodal lines to angles are places that you either may be drawn to during your lifetime or you have some kind of "destined/fated" meeting with people/a person.

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