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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:56 pm

I don’t see which in my chart speaks of poor health as I have additional issues like a connective tissue problem, a psychic told me.
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Re: Looking for my place

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:44 pm

martin88 wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:55 pm
I wonder if listening to a Venus energy frequency would be beneficial to make my Venus stronger? I'm afraid I might turn feminine lol, but I DO need more Venusian energy.
If encouraging your expression of Venus helps you get along with people, and you like that effect, then yeah, it would be beneficial.
Turning feminine is not a thing. All men have Venus in their charts and their psyches, just as all women have Mars. Even if it was a thing, if you felt it was going too far, that's totally under your control, and you can stop listening to so much of it.
But it's not a thing.

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by SteveS » Thu Aug 16, 2018 4:18 am

Martin, try to remember all relocation to benefic planetary line should first be preceded with first, practical secure economic employment, and as you have proven with your post, all benefic planetary lines does not necessarily mean the right stuff for a well rounded life. I see happy people relocated to non-benefic planetary lines, probable because of their Natal aspects--not their relocated angular stuff.

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:04 am

Steve, I agree. My native land is near my Jupiter line, but it's always been hard to get a good job here.....
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Re: Looking for my place

Post by SteveS » Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:50 am

Martin wrote:
Something interesting is that despite the Jupiter line, my birth country is not on a very good location:
For sure, interesting and a very practical observation Martin, something I can clearly understand as an important factor when considering relocating from a Jupiter line in your native birth country. Only you know what you are experiencing on your native Jupiter line. I was born on a Jupiter line and did not necessarily like a-lot of the cultural values in my birth location, but, as an adult I could see the great benefics of Jupiter working in my life from a business standpoint, so good, I would be a fool to leave my Jupiter line. There are many practical factors to consider for re-location, and I see you have a very good grasp for re-locational astrology. I wish you happy vibes on finding a good location. I see more and more people very interested in re-location astrology using the principles of Sidereal Astrology. Maybe one day Jim could write a Report on re-location astrology using Sidereal Astrology and the functions in his favorite astrological program Solarfire, in order to help more people better understand. Did you happen to see/read Jim’s thread/topic on re-locating his current Sidereal Solar Return? If not, I highly recommend reading/studying his thought processes in relocating his malefic SSR to a benefic SSR with the options he had for choosing a re- location. Even though Jim’s topic was for relocating a SSR, the same principles would apply for a Natal Chart.

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 5:09 am

Steve, I wish you happy holidays and to others here on the board, too! :)
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Re: Looking for my place

Post by Veronica » Tue Dec 25, 2018 2:18 pm

Hope you have a very Merry Christmas Martin and I hope your health and finances turn for the best.

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Re: Looking for my place

Post by martin88 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:56 am

Thanks, Veronica!
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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Gypsi » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:46 am

This is a very interesting topic I want to look into more.

Typically I use Tropical astrology - rather than SR. Is there a difference in astrocartography?

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:47 am

Gypsi wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:46 am
Typically I use Tropical astrology - rather than SR. Is there a difference in astrocartography?
No, there isn't.
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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by martin88 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 pm

Does anyone know how Astrocartography relates to past lives and being attracted to a place?
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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Arena » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:37 am

martin88 you said:
"It’s mostly brain fog, anxiety, fear of people and social situations, shaking hands, joint pain, and abdominal pain/inflammation. ...

It’s really a curse as no one knows why or how one can become “allergic” to themselves."

It is not true that no one knows. Most doctors don't know, but there are actually a few who do and have been studying this for decades. One of them is called Dr. Shoemaker and he has found methods to measure things in your blood to find out that many many people with these symptoms you describe and have been diagnosed with "autoimmune" diseases actually have been exposed to mould toxins to the point where the intoxication brings the immune system into a disease. He also treats people and helps them to get their health back, which often includes leaving the house they live in for an extended period. Sometimes the house needs to be renovated because there are leakages or have been damp problems in the past (it can be years ago) and many times the people who have the condition have no idea that the damp or leakage problem exists in their house (or work place) so they will need a specialist to help them find the problem to be able to eliminate it.
Please consult Dr. Shoemaker or ask him if he knows a doctor near you that has the knowledge. (Most doctors don't have this knowledge because it is not included in their medical education - but some biologists or an expert on toxic substances may be able to help). But the research in this area is becoming more and more known and the WHO has issued a warning about this. Nowadays we also see a lot of Indoor Air conferences that deal with this issue.

http://www.survivingmold.com/

https://www.survivingmold.com/diagnosis

https://www.survivingmold.com/shoemaker ... in-my-area

The problem is not that people are allergic to themselves, the problem is that people are allergic to mould toxins called mycotoxins and their immune system/body responds. The problem with the diagnosis is that the doctor doesn't know what is wrong.

Here is another website full of resources:
http://www.mold-help.org/

And here is an interesting documentary about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bfk0gKbQBuM

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:59 am

Mold toxins, yes. Also way more people in the US have one of the tick-borne illnesses than most people believe. The interesting thing is, you get tested while your immune system is fighting well, the titers for the disease don't show anything. Until you've been treated for a couple weeks, there's not enough bacterial toxin in your blood to show up. We learned that from treating our dogs.

There's also demodectic mange. People do get it, but they don't lose patches of hair to a red rash. They get rosacea and some forms of cystic acne and even eczemas.

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Arena » Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:08 am

martin88 wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:04 pm
Does anyone know how Astrocartography relates to past lives and being attracted to a place?
I like many a well-off, well-organized countries like Scandinavian ones but I don't have that much parans there. I have better ones in Germany and as a kid I was attracted to German TV. I also like Poland since a long time, but most cities there are not very positive, except two of them and one is nearby my Moon IC line (as a Scorpio moon would be too moody?). I am really uncertain whether I should follow my gut feeling or go with what ACG tells me? I've never been really attracted by Greece, yet in continential Europe it seems like Athens is the best place for me.
I've read somewhere that your nodal lines to angles are places that you either may be drawn to during your lifetime or you have some kind of "destined/fated" meeting with people/a person.

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by martin88 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:16 am

Thanks all for your time, suggestions and comments!
I've restarted learning French. I'm also interested in German, as I was exposed to German TV as a child and loved every bit of it. Hungarian looks very very difficult, but I've also been drawn to Hungary for a long time I think (I can't be sure, but I wanted to visit those places I saw in a music video).

Do you count the crossings at all? Here is what Astro.com shows for Debrecen, the 2nd largest city in Hungary. I wonder whether the bolded ones could be too difficult for me, but Debrecen is to the west of my Jupiter line, which is a better place than to the east of the line:

Jupiter/MC Line 64 km
The following points are located at the same geographical latitude and have therefore an influence:
Crossing Chiron/Neptune
Crossing Venus/Uranus
Crossing Moon/Mercury
Crossing Saturn/Chiron
Crossing Sun/Jupiter

I am looking at finding gigs at Bavaria in Germany, Northern France or perhaps in said Hungarian city. I also have in mind the Athens area in Greece. Spain is out of the question as I don't get on well with most Spaniards for whatever reason. Poland is questionable, as it says its lattitude is not very positive and it doesn't have big enough towns in its southernmost parts, to match the same crossings for Bavaria and Paris. Hence why I am going back to French and German languages.

Thanks to all! :)

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:40 am

martin88 wrote:
Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:16 am
Do you count the crossings at all?
Yes. Those are called parans. They're definitely secondary, but sometimes are a main factor distinguishing one area from another. For example, a friend moved from Los Angeles to San Diego - not a very long distance at all - but picked up a Sun-Neptune paran in San Diego that had her feeling dependent and unproductive, which she couldn't stand, so she moved back to LA. The feelings went away.
Here is what Astro.com shows for Debrecen, the 2nd largest city in Hungary. I wonder whether the bolded ones could be too difficult for me, but Debrecen is to the west of my Jupiter line, which is a better place than to the east of the line:
There's no reason east or west of the line should have a different meaning.
Crossing Chiron/Neptune
Crossing Venus/Uranus
Crossing Moon/Mercury
Crossing Saturn/Chiron
Crossing Sun/Jupiter
I don't think there has been enough work done with Chiron to know what it means for sure. One could argue, of course, that Saturn with anything and Neptune with anything would be a problem, though we don't know importance (strength) to give it. Yes, I see your Sun-Jupiter, Moon-Mercury, and Mercury-Uranus lies slicing right through Slovakia, so not too far from Hungary (I'd have to do a separate calculation to see their orb for Debreczen, with Sun-Jupiter further north, exactly at the latitude of Wadowice.

These are a bit time-consuming to calculate carefully, but I'll take a few minutes to confirm these right now.

The map discloses as approximately present for Hungary, Chiron-Neptune, Venus-Uranus, Moon-Mercury, Saturn-Chiron, and Sun-Jupiter, and also Mars-Chiron which wasn't on your list. From careful calculation, here is what I get using 1° orbs, for Debreczen. (In addition, you have a Saturn-Uranus paran that is present at all locations on earth, 0°50'.) For each one, I've placed at the end of the line the specific angles the planets are on when they form the paran; for example, you have Mercury on Descendant at the same time Chiron is on MC, which is what forms their "crossing."

0°09' Saturn-Chiron (Asc/Dsc)
0°14' Mercury-Chiron (Dsc/MC)
0°19' Venus-Uranus (Asc/Dsc)
0°19' Chiron-Neptune (Asc/Dsc)
0°36' Mars-Neptune (Asc/MC)

I'd worry a bit about the Mars-Neptune, which can be treacherous and poisonous; but possibly you can use its energy in your music? (I don't know what you play or how you play it, there are several genres that live deeply in a Mars-Neptune state.)

Sun-Jupiter must be Sun on IC when Jupiter is on Asc. For this location, their orb is 1°05'. (Some people count up to 2°, I was being more conservative with 1°.) Moon-Mercury must be Moon on Dsc with Mercury on IC, which is 1°43' for this city.
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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by martin88 » Sun May 05, 2019 11:35 pm

Thank you, Jim!
I've since visited 2 psychics, asking them about relocation and surprisingly both of them say Poland is my place without being prompted to. However, despite the nice Jupiter line there I've got these parans, below. I wonder if AstroCartography (or in this case the AstroClick Travel tool) is the main thing when relocating or if things like past lives etc. have influence as well sometimes? I've no interest in visiting supposedly very AstroCartoGraphically auspicious places for me like Athens or Madeira. I don't even like Greek culture and naturally it's not green enough for my liking and the cities are suffocating. Not sure I'd leave Europe as well. France, Germany, the UK, Poland and Hungary are the ones I feel attracted to and whose cultures I like. With the UK Brexiting that leaves the other four, but I dislike the sound and difficulty of pronouncing (Modern) French. :lol: I lean to Germany and Poland the most. Anyway, the scary parans I have in Poland:

In Warsaw where most jobs are:
Crossing Venus/Saturn at Same Latitude
Here, your social contacts take on a distant, formal character. You expect a lot from the people around you. As a consequence, you might feel lonely, misunderstood and disappointed, if they meet you with some reserve. You are very sensitive to social convention and morals which influence sensual pleasure. The desire for sexual closeness and tenderness could also be dampened by your inner fears. This place favours renunciation and abstinence. Furthermore, you have a good connection with older people as well as dealing with antiquities or art....
Geographical position of this line crossing: 71w41', 52n35'. 5819 km to the west of the clicked point (outside this map)
In Krakow or Southern Poland, I get the Saturn/Chiron paran:
You depart from old attitudes and lifestyles and are attracted by the strange, unusual and alternative. This is especially true in your job and in your approach to social and legal norms. Here, you turn into an outsider and loner who cannot find any satisfaction in your existing circumstances. You are constantly working on the fulfillment of your ideas and visions without becoming impractical.
And in Northern Poland (as well as for most of Northern Europe, including the UK) I have this:
Crossing Mars/Neptune at Same Latitude
This could be a critical place for you. You appear less assertive and convincing, and decisions may go wrong. This is especially the case if you think of assertion in a commonplace way. In this place, you may find it easier to reach your goals, if you go with the flow of the circumstances rather than fighting them. But if you get the feeling of fighting a futile battle, you may resort to alcohol or drugs for relief.
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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Arena » Mon May 06, 2019 7:20 am

There are so many pages in this thread, so if I have already asked this question I apologise. But I would like to ask you what is your why? Why do you want to relocate? What would you like to get out of such a relocation?
If I had your chart and would be doing this exercise and would be wanting to move away from a good Jupiter-Moon location, I would most likely try a place that has Sun on ASC or MC.

Have you ever been to India, Bhutan, Nepal, Tibet? Your Sun on MC.
Or have you ever been to Madeira and perhaps Morocco? Sun on ASC.

Why not try to take a trip to a few different places to see how the energy resonates with you? Is that possible for you?

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by martin88 » Mon May 06, 2019 11:06 am

Hello Arena! I've always felt drawn to faraway lands. And I want to gain more money than our bad economy affords. I don't fit in with Balkan culture, never did. :) I have a not so good paran here but maybe it's just not my place?
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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Arena » Tue May 07, 2019 11:05 am

This is why I asked what it is exactly that you are looking for with your relocation?

"When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change."

People think in different ways and judging a whole location only by it's western economy is not what I would do. F.ex. India has opportunities for those who have something that a big portion of the local population does not have. So if you have a little money and an education or something to offer, then you can probably live very well there. Sun on MC supposedly brings people status and recognition which can be good for making money and having good success.

To me, Morocco is just soooo beautiful and has so many beautiful design things that can be exported to sell in another country and is also growing in tourism... so in spite of a poor economy some people can really make good business from good ideas. Sun on ASC can also bring status, recognition and good vitality.

To me, Paris is a beautiful city to visit for a few days but I would never want to live there. So polluted, so crowded. To me, Germany is also a beautiful country to visit for a few days, but I've always found the Germans so square that I would never want to live there.

So martin88, what is it that you are looking to change with your relocation? What would you want to get out of life in a new place? Do you have aspirations to follow? Are you looking for a good place to get a good education? Bring Mercury out. Are you looking for love and friendships? Bring Venus out. Are you looking for success, recognition and status? Bring Sun out. First find that answer within yourself and then go forward from there.

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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by martin88 » Thu May 09, 2019 5:01 am

Mostly friendships and health and mental stability.
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Re: Relocation help needed

Post by Arena » Thu May 09, 2019 8:46 am

Why didn't you get your birth certificate if you think your mom got your birth time wrong if you wanted to ask people in here to put work into helping you find a good relocation? It should be an easy thing to call up the hospital or to order your BC online.

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Re: Martin88's horoscope

Post by martin88 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:33 am

It is correct, Arena. Anyway, I’ve come to the conclusion that one has to learn to be happy with themselves and the place where they are. If one is confident and happy inside, they can live almost anywhere (save for Pluto lines).

That said, I am now more focused on career change as my job is what makes me unhappy the most. I seem to attract clerical, accounting or analytical jobs but they make me feel miserable, it's evident I'm on the wrong path.

I'm thinking about trying my hand at art like songwriting, singing or graphic design. I also like computers a lot, wonder if I can do programming or will I find it boring? The only administrative thing I see myself doing is system administration as I like tinkering with computer settings. :)

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by Arena » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:10 am

Well, for arts Venus and Neptune are both artistic planets.
For success with career Jupiter on MC should be helpful.

Did you call the hospital or order your birth certificate online to confirm the registered birth time?

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Re: Martin88's chart

Post by martin88 » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:13 am

Yes, they said 9:15 local time.

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