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Sidereal Sun, Moon, & Mars Sign Summaries

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:25 am

This information is given elsewhere on the forum, as part of more complete discussions of Sun-signs and Moon-signs (constellations). I thought it might be handy, especially for new visitors, to have one place to get a quick look. For more details, see:
Sun: http://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=35
Moon: http://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=34
Mars: http://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=32

Sun in TAURUS (Hub: Moon, Venus) CHARMING. DEVOTED. EROTIC.
Charming, good-hearted, tolerant, forthright. Loves peace, beauty, nature, comfort, simplicity. Devoted friend, keenly understands people. Willingly vulnerable, open; feels things powerfully. Erotic (sexually, sensually, philosophically). Deeply loving parents. Prolific in all areas of creativity.

Moon in TAURUS (Hub: Moon, Venus)
Cordial, charming, magnetic. Soft, gentle, vulnerable; but brave (not timid). Values harmlessness, simplicity. Quest (groping) for emotional truth, driven by how they feel about things. Flirtatious, romantically roving. Thoughtful, reflective, independent thinker. Learns rapidly; relearns slowly. Sensuous. Beauty, art.

Mars in TAURUS (Hub: Moon, Venus)
Artists, musicians. Tender, responsive, humane. Mystic instincts attuned to love. Sexually attractive, romantic soul, sensual (sexually popular?). Women often tough, competitive, comfortable with assertiveness. Men often second-guess themselves, perhaps a little lost, ambivalent about aggression.


Sun in GEMINI (Spoke: Mercury) REASON. PLAY. ÉGALITÉ.
Acute nervous system. Speed, rhythm, variety (dispersion). More reason than belief. Courageous. Egalitarian; rejects forced stratification: “What’s expected” often makes no sense to them. Play, youthful; needs affection, connection; feels loneliness deeply, often alienated. Music, arts, business. Mechanical, technical.

Moon in GEMINI (Spoke: Mercury)
Intellectual, curious, talkative (charming, engaging). Passions drive intellect & interests. Needs constant input. Attention & interests shifting, varied. Hyper-sensitive (psychic); touchy, edgy (irrational); withdraws, hides. Stability from companionship (does better paired). Needs approval, acceptance.

Mars in GEMINI (Spoke: Mercury)
Bright, inquiring; forthright, decisive (strong opinions). Argumentative (debate, stirs conversation; eloquent?). Pragmatic (not idealistic). Methodical. Scientific mind hones facts, can commit mind to research (scientists). Gains strength from being heard; otherwise over-compensates. (May "know better than anyone else," need to be right.) Substance abuse.


Sun in CANCER (Rim: Moon, Jupiter) IMAGINATION. EMULATION. MYSTERY.
Thrives within imagination & complexity (vision; or lost in fantasy). Lives in others’ shadow; finds purpose in service & emulation. Conceive & deliver results. Persuasive, trusted, instinct for motives. Live in mystery or its resolution: create or solve puzzles. Renewed by home or sanctuary. Sensitive, moody, self-absorbed.

Moon in CANCER (Rim: Moon, Jupiter)
Strongly driven by feelings (close to surface, comfortably expressed; sometimes overwhelm). When feeling safe: tender, gentle, humane, openly sensitive; otherwise moody, cocky arrogance. Expressive actor, yet treasures privacy. Magnetic, draws (requires) affection & appreciation, warm. Generous, hospitable. Sympathetic listening; trusted. Exudes optimism, confidence. Better serving than leading. Thrives within imagination & fantasy.

Mars in CANCER (Rim: Moon, Jupiter)
Inner strength (prodigious imagination & fantasy) usually holds private demons at bay; but clings to old wounds (angry, acting out, selfish, retaliatory from old mistreatment). Breeds confidence, makes things happen; loyal, speaks truth to power; but wants a chance to lead. Magnetic (passionate following?). Wants adoration sexually (otherwise business-like).


Sun in LEO (Hub: Sun) CENTRICITY. DIGNITY. PERFECTION.
Requires centricity & satellites: Holds court. Casual dignity, simple elegance, innate flair. Authority, courage, competitive, hates weakness, nurtures talent. Warm, loyal; must love and be loved (centricity, adoration); sexually lusty, playful. Purity, perfection (pedantic). Strong religious instinct. Childlike delight.

Moon in LEO (Hub: Sun)
Emotions intertwined with pride. Strong, noble, proud, natural leader, courageous, confident, practical, effective, indomitable. Dramatic; seldom pretentious. Gregarious (court of friends & admirers). Entertainer. Discriminating in romance. Needs warm, affectionate interaction; may retain aloof mask. Business over sentiment.

Mars in LEO (Hub: Sun)
Strong, courageous, decisive, self-confident; chutzpah. Pragmatic idealist. Upbeat energy. Leap in to help (whatever is needed); takes charge as needed (autocratic?). Observant, knows what's going on, reads situations well. Sexually ardent, bold, forthright (often, but not always, the aggressor).


Sun in VIRGO (Spoke: Mercury) STRATEGIC. ANALYTICAL. INNOCENT.
Strategic, tactical, analytical, logical, scrutinizing. Encyclopedic knowledge. Favors trees over forest. Innocent air, modest. Tolerant, tactful, congenial, serious. Courageous in word & deed. Service-minded, conscientious, efficient. Principle over convenience. Active toward social progress (rarely radical).

Moon in VIRGO (Spoke: Mercury)
Intellectual, strategic, analytical, calculating, data-driven, efficient. Intuitive, bizarrely illogical (moody, resistant). Plays victim & retaliates (abuse, betrayal). Service, loyal, devoted, contributing. Courageous. Innocent, simple, modest; expects respect. Romantic, flirtatious; shy. Too serious. Nervous sensitivity.

Mars in VIRGO (Spoke: Mercury)
Strategic, analytical, logical, calculating odds (often deceitful, covert, manipulative, gamey). Very smart, curious, astute, eager to learn everything possible (intelligence is more accessible than feelings). Stands ready to assist, help, support. Substance abuse (alcoholics).


Sun in LIBRA (Rim: Venus, Saturn) BEAUTY. TEASE. JUSTICE.
Relationship-centered. Polite, warm, affectionate; possessive, jealous. Enjoys beauty, comfort; often artistic. Appearance-conscious (vain). Tease (self & others: entice, deny, gratify). Peace (appeasement). Justice (righting wrongs). Shrewd, intense, secretive. Feminine thrives better than masculine. Optimistic futurist (personally, socially).

Moon in LIBRA (Rim: Venus, Saturn)
Attractive, magnetic, charm (easily draws lovers). “Looking good” opens doors. Tease (self & others: entice, deny, gratify). Peace (courtesy, compromise); wants peaceful surroundings. Justice (righting wrongs). Determined, persists, passionate, shrewd. Emotionally efficient. Private; slow at self-disclosure. Independent, self-sufficient.

Mars in LIBRA (Rim: Venus, Saturn)
Warm, sociable, likable. Independent, self-sufficient, survivors (slow to ask for help). Persistent, serious, intent. Interesting, odd (disreputable?), on outskirts. Ego distinction prevails over ego-submersion (but wants marriage). Passion for social justice. Feminine thrives better than masculine (feminist). Women aggressively protect families, friends (power, impact). Men struggle with gender expectations (some bullies). Substance abuse problems.


Sun in SCORPIO (Hub: Mars) FREEDOM. COMBATIVE. SEXUAL.
Requires freedom of movement & thought, to be unfettered. Willing to rebel, be outlandish. Sharp humor. Bold; moral courage; hard to intimidate. Non-disclosing, slow to show weaknesses; collects others' weaknesses. Pragmatic, not theoretical. Favors action, abhors apathy. Phallic: Sexual volcanoes.

Moon in SCORPIO (Hub: Mars)
Socially active party-people: good-natured, friendly, humor. Willing to be outlandish. Factually forthright; emotionally cautious (withholding); senses others’ motives. Sexual volcanoes: built pressure needs explosive release. Sexually pragmatic. Frequent relationship drama; combative. Easy to anger (it passes). Bold, adventurous, restless, "try anything." Gossip (sometimes vindictive). Beliefs likely unorthodox.

Mars in SCORPIO (Hub: Mars)
Determined, hardworking, strong desire to succeed, hard to intimidate. Sharp humor, willing to be outlandish. Loves to party. Most prefer some "bad boy/girl" in their character, feel it their moral duty to misbehave on schedule, and stay "a little rough around the edges." Most of the women are high-demand sexual locomotives.


Sun in SAGITTARIUS (Spoke: Jupiter) QUALITY. HERITAGE. TRIBE.
Social elitism, aristocracy. Excellence, quality. Higher & higher, ambition, travel. Judges self & others, may fail own standards. Right-wrong, reward-punishment, belief- & values-driven. Respects continuity of culture & social rituals. Preserves status quo, heritage, myth when possible. Loyal to tribe. Complacent affection.

Moon in SAGITTARIUS (Spoke: Jupiter)
Higher & higher (ambition, spiritual aspiration, flight). Optimism (adapting with positivism). Courteous, gracious, natural hosts. Seeks to impress (needs validation, approval). Devoted to ideals & values (political; nationalistic, tribal; loves history). Dramatic (actors). Mercenary. Strong family ties.

Mars in SAGITTARIUS (Spoke: Jupiter)
Idealist (not necessarily pragmatic). Serious about subjects of interest: sincere, devoted, studious (seems hardworking; it's really love or zeal). Passionate with beliefs; moral courage; persuasive. Innovative, ambitious, strategic. Thrives in classic styles. Many exude air of mystery or fantasy (branding?). Many are identified with ideologies, -ists, & -isms.


Sun in CAPRICORN (Rim: Mars, Saturn) INDEPENDENT. DISCONTENT. WILD.
Survival and autonomy needs foremost. Sociable; not self-disclosing. Humor, storyteller, prankish, music. Good resource manager. Struggles against tough odds. Discontent, combative, resists persuasion and conformity. Values past; defies status quo. Emotions cautious initially. Extreme libido.

Moon in CAPRICORN (Rim: Mars, Saturn)
Restless, confrontational. Resists persuasion, authority, & conformity. Sharp, unconventional mind. Socially charming; not self-disclosing. Humor, prankish, outlandish. Sexually attractive; wild libido. Identifies with the fringe, “bad boy/girl” (but essentially wholesome). Dark, grotesque, shocking, disturbing style (loves dark occult images). Vulnerable to dark moods. Often severe childhoods or early loss.

Mars in CAPRICORN (Rim: Mars, Saturn)
Courage, stands own ground (prefers action to complaining). Confrontational, discontent: creates unnecessary struggle & conflict (over authority, control, father issues). Private, secretive, self-veiling. (Mysterious façade, or deceptive; to avoid control, look good, or not be found out). Much unresolved shadow; vulnerable to dark moods; carries past darkness around. Sexually forthright (strong needs + practicality).


Sun in AQUARIUS (Hub: Uranus) SCIENTIFIC. UNCONVENTIONAL. INCLUSIVE.
Scientific, analytic, inventive, pragmatic, non-dogmatic. Unconventional, provocative, controversial. Broad interests. Ignores race, class, rank. Truthful, altruistic, helping. Understands people. Solitude, alienation, undemonstrative. Haughty, unapologetic, but rarely pretentious. May not understand time.

Moon in AQUARIUS (Hub: Uranus)
Instinct for interconnection of things & breadth (diverse interests) as sources of genius. Intellectually rebellious, curious, investigative, futuristic. Science, analysis, discovery. Free spirit + social responsibility. Sexually curious; strange marital conditions. Humane: sympathetic to others’ troubles. Social idealist, reformer. Avoids herd mind. Occultists.

Mars in AQUARIUS (Hub: Uranus)
Powerful pragmatic mind is progressive, non-dogmatic. Analytical, innovative, resourceful. Visionaries (yet pragmatic first). Bold individual, avoids automatic herd compliance. Honest, unpretentious. Follows own instincts, not advice. Gregarious, loves life, vested in friendship, helpful to friends (helper in general). Understands people. Sexually uninhibited.


Sun in PISCES (Spoke: Venus, Neptune) THEATRICAL. MYSTERIOUS. ROMANTIC.
Drawn to the foreign, exotic, wondrous, theatrical, mysterious, glamorous. Wanderlust. Eros vs. moralism. Socially charming. Seeks idealistic relationships. Visionary, romantic, dreamer. Hardened personal reality, stuck patterns. Slavery-bondage. Fickle allegiance, betrayal. Drama, acting, music.

Moon in PISCES (Spoke: Venus, Neptune)
Most truly themselves when being someone else. Dramatizes a personal fiction; "big fish" confidence (self-important, airs?). Love having a "secret side." Divas. Emotionally driven (haunted). Fascinated with the unknown. Religious thinking style. Faith, commitment to beliefs or vision. Judgmental. Hardened personal reality (stuck patterns).

Mars in PISCES (Spoke: Venus, Neptune)
Sensitive, imaginative, fervent; weaves vivid drama, vibrant fantasy. Brooding, moody, surging into temptation, pursing depths & heights. Creative reality-weaving, not scientific reality-discovering. Expect reality to match their wants (impatient with frustrated gratification). Passive-aggressive, manipulative. Looks at things most leave hidden (death, abnormal sexuality, occultism, mysteries of life & the psyche).


Sun in ARIES (Rim: Sun, Pluto) CONTRARY. LIBERTARIAN. IMPERIAL.
Contradictory, contrary, oppositional, capricious. Seeks liberty, resists definition or limits. Practical, resourceful, active, impatient. Imperial, political, needs power. Poor empathy. Resents criticism. Vulnerable ego. Direct, bold with opinions. Romantically aggressive. Faithful, strong family sense.

Moon in ARIES (Rim: Sun, Pluto)
Autonomous, independent, self-sufficient, competitive. Sentiment yields to practicality; cautious with intimacy. Sexually bold, passionate, pragmatic. Assertive (pushy), efficient, decisive, contrary, opinionated (adamant certainty). Respected, easily takes charge, leads. Business instincts, opportunistic.

Mars in ARIES (Rim: Sun, Mars, Pluto)
Strong-willed, independent, confident. Firm in their own opinions, don't back down. Accomplishing, industrious. Knack for business, promotion, making things move. (Building & expanding organizations or industries.) Imperial (bossy?). Some have too much energy pumping through their bodies for their comfort & health.
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Re: Sidereal Sun & Moon Sign Summaries

Post by SteveS » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:30 am

Good :idea: Jim.

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Re: Sidereal Sun & Moon Sign Summaries

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:37 am

SteveS wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:30 am
Good :idea: Jim.
This might be useful for your current project :)
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Post by SteveS » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:49 am

Indeed, at least I can easily get a direct link to anyone interested in Sidereal Astrology.

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Sun-sign bullets

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:27 am

This post pertains to the marketing of Sidereal astrology, but also has other secondary education advantages. - Neither my work nor this site can at all be characterized as "Sun-sign astrology" - if anything, given the multi-framework ways we've uncovered charts need to be examined (at least horoscope vs. mundoscope plus aspects between multiple frameworks), some astrologers certainly think we lean in the "too hard" direction.

Regardless... one is never going to own the heart and soul of astrology-loving people in the general population until they can grasp theirs and others' identifies through Sun-sign descriptions that require no work, little thought, glib summation. This is, in fact, a thoroughly valid approach since, for abut 70-80% of people, a simple Sun-sign description by itself catches a significantly large portion of what they are, where they come from, and how they seem. (I was just reminded of this marketing practicality this week when one friend, quite bright and deeply exposed to broad esotericism, was quite insistent at being not bothered with any technicalities, and just wanted a two or three line summation of what somebody was like. The tone of what was expected seemed much like what popular Tropical "street astrology" offers - what I like to call PopTrop.)

In our wine business, when we bring tasting events into people's homes, each wine is summarized by three crisp descriptor words. It's primarily marketing, of course, but marketing (when authentic) is also communication and education. Three words are easy to remember and use. I glanced over the summaries above and realized it's pretty easy to boil each Sun-sign down to a similar trio. I want words that, together, are representative of the full flavor of the Sun-sign, that are understandable, where each word speaks on its own & implies much more than it immediately says if you think about - in short, is the start of a conversation and elaboration - and essentially creates a brand for each sign, a persuasive descriptor. And, when in doubt of whether to use Word A or Word B, I should pick the one that denizens of that Sun-sign would themselves more quickly identify with (e.g., would Geminis more identify with the PLAY or EGALITARIAN parts of their nature? - easily the PLAY!).

These are not necessarily a final word - they may evolve - but I'm trying to get it as "right" as possible the first time so that we can start building this brand identification with Sidereal astrology in our casual conversations with all the people in our lives. Let's start actively replacing PopTrop with SidePride. :) - Your thoughts?



TAURUS (May 15-Jun 14) Charming. Devoted. Erotic.
GEMINI (Jun 15-Jul 15) Reason. Play. Égalité.
CANCER (Jul 17-Aug 16) Imagination. Emulation. Mystery.
LEO (Aug 17-Sep 16) Centricity. Dignity. Perfection.
VIRGO (Sep 17-Oct 16) Strategic. Analytical. Innocent.
LIBRA (Oct 17-Nov 15) Beauty. Tease. Justice.
SCORPIO (Nov 16-Dec 15) Freedom. Combative. Sexual.
SAGITTARIUS (Dec 16-Jan 14) Quality. Heritage. Tribe.
CAPRICORN (Jan 15-Feb 12) Independent. Discontent. Wild.
AQUARIUS (Feb 13-Mar 14) Scientific. Unconventional. Inclusive.
PISCES (Mar 15-Apr 13) Theatrical. Mysterious. Romantic.
ARIES (Apr 14-May 13) Contrary. Libertarian. Imperial.

PS - I've updated the "standard calendar dates" for the current median birth year. Most people now alive in the U.S. in particular were born centered on 1980 (and it's a leap year, normalizing the four-year variation cycle). For now, I'll use the above 1980 dates for sign ingresses. These can vary about a day from year to year, and permanently shift one day forward every 72 years.

PPS - As I continue to work with these, a couple of things stand out. First, the summaries are strikingly (almost starkly) aligned with the ruling and exalted planets. This wasn't planned. These words were derived simply from boiling down the five-line summaries above. In boiling it down, all sorts of other stuff fell away as quite secondary to, or included in, these three ideas. The more it was quintessentialized, the more the root planetary ideas appeared.

Second, polarities are keenly useful in these sets. It's a most valuable mental exercise to think your way through the three words for each pair of opposing signs, e.g., how Taurus' Charming, Devoted, Erotic stands against the opposing Scorpio Freedom, Combative, Sexual. These are interesting alone, but also disclose a lot of character in the ways that new traits are disclosed (new ways of understanding polarities) fro the opposites. For example, just as Virgo is Innocence, the essential presentation of Pisces is NOT innocent! Pisces is about maintaining & indulging Mystery, while Virgo is about diving into Mystery to de-mystify it. Cancer is emulative, and Capricorn resists conformity. Leo's dignity stands against Aquarius' unconventionality (which isn't inherently undignified, but doesn't place the same value on insisting on dignity) - they are nearly Dignity-Indignity. Leo's centricity is a pretty perfect complement to Aquarius' inclusiveness, Leo's quest for perfection standing against Aquarius' acceptance of life's imperfections. Libra is a tease, Aries is straightforward; Libra places as much value on being agreeable for its own sake as Aries does on being contrary for its own sake. - That's just off the cuff. There's a lot to discover in these polarities.
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Re: Sidereal Sun, Moon, & Mars Sign Summaries

Post by SteveS » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:03 am

Jim wrote:
These are not necessarily a final word - they may evolve - but I'm trying to get it as "right" as possible the first time so that we can start building this brand identification with Sidereal astrology in our casual conversations with all the people in our lives. Let's start actively replacing PopTrop with SidePride. :) - Your thoughts?


TAURUS (May 15-Jun 14) Charming. Devoted. Erotic.
GEMINI (Jun 15-Jul 15) Reason. Play. Égalité.
CANCER (Jul 17-Aug 16) Imagination. Emulation. Mystery.
LEO (Aug 17-Sep 16) Centricity. Dignity. Perfection.
VIRGO (Sep 17-Oct 16) Strategic. Analytical. Innocent.
LIBRA (Oct 17-Nov 15) Beauty. Tease. Justice.
SCORPIO (Nov 16-Dec 15) Freedom. Combative. Sexual.
SAGITTARIUS (Dec 16-Jan 14) Quality. Heritage. Tribe.
CAPRICORN (Jan 15-Feb 12) Independent. Discontent. Wild.
AQUARIUS (Feb 13-Mar 14) Scientific. Unconventional. Inclusive.
PISCES (Mar 15-Apr 13) Theatrical. Mysterious. Romantic.
ARIES (Apr 14-May 13) Contrary. Libertarian. Imperial.
Great Jim! You know your work is/has always been greatly appreciated by this fellow Virgo. :)

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:05 am

This could be a nice card or half-sheet of paper for you to had out at your classes, perhaps.
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Post by SteveS » Mon Apr 02, 2018 7:08 am

Exactly my thoughts Jim. :) And for every other member on this forum doing their part to spread your work on Sidereal Astrology. :)

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Re: Sidereal Sun, Moon, & Mars Sign Summaries

Post by James Condor » Sat Apr 14, 2018 7:35 am

Initially impressed by the condensed and found them both accurate and surprising. Some are standard, Cancer-Emulate, Aries-Contrary, Libra-Beauty, ect. Accurate. Others are surprisingly new to me Aries-Libertarian, Imperial, Libra-Tease, Gemini Egalite, Aquarius-Inclusive, Capricorn-Wild. I wonder how many people, a panel, would decide on these. I wish I was apart of a team, panel, on the matter. Like scientifically. For example, a team of x amount of sidereal astrologers doing experiments and concluding Capricorn is wild

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:02 am

Thanks, James. - The larger lists of sign traits in the sign interpretation threads of course need continued review. The four-line summaries of those at the very top of this thread are reduced from the larger list - one would hope that they wouldn't have any new information, and would just be a repackaging (tightening). The three-word bullets are then a tighter version of those four-line summaries, linguistic reductions that don't give any new information on the signs, but just try to say the same thing in three words.

How these were derived was described earlier in this thread here: http://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1909#p14076
Perhaps it would be helpful if I said more about how some of them were derived?


Having previously determined that Sun in Gemini can be summarized correctly thus:
Acute nervous system. Speed, rhythm, variety (dispersion). More reason than belief. Courageous. Egalitarian; rejects forced stratification: “What’s expected” often makes no sense to them. Play, youthful; needs affection, connection; feels loneliness deeply, often alienated. Music, arts, business. Mechanical, technical.

I then just reduced these four lines to the three words REASON, PLAY, ÉGALITÉ.

Other words can be picked, of course. Different writers would make different word choices. A lot of these choices were made as an effort to express something that would take one sentence (or many sentences) in a single word. One reason they are new to you is that this exact language hasn't been used before - rather, the longer, multi-sentence descriptions have been used.

Egalite for Gemini was one of the toughest to come up with, one of the last I wrote. One of the two most driving characteristics of Gemini is an innate rejection of external expectations and stratifications. They find these foreign, alien, unnatural (or at least a bother). Socially, Gemini is pluralist, inclusive, and democratic, rejecting stratification, aristocratic entitlement, or other standards of intrinsic human inequality. And so on.

By the time all of this got to the four-line summaries above, this had been reduced to, "Egalitarian; rejects forced stratification: 'What’s expected' often makes no sense to them." So my new challenge was how to take this idea and put it in ONE WORD. There was no English word that hit exactly the right note. "Egalitarian" (without further comment) is much more expressive of the Aquarius spin, for example (and it misses the distinctive Gemini flavor of being anti-Sagittarian in motive). I almost used "democratic," and thought it tepid and inspecific. So, though I didn't want to leave the English language, the French word egalite is immortalized in the themes of the French Revolution and generally known to English speaker as expressive of that exact anti-royalist populist liberty and social equality I wanted to convey.

Libertarian wasn't picked for Aries to mean (for example) that one is registered with the Libertarian Party, but as descriptive of that exact Aries Sun tone that independently bridges the usual dualities with paradox, e.g., can't be described either as liberal or conservative alone. This one word covers perhaps a fourth of all the sentences used to describe Aries Sun. (In the four-liners above, this was summarized as "Seeks liberty, resists definition or limits. Practical, resourceful," etc., but I was also keeping the longer traits list in mind.)

Imperial is not new: Aries has long been considered an emperor type. (I ws recently reminded of a Garth Allen distinction of the Mars signs, that Scorpio likes to fight while Aries likes to boss.)

I wanted a different word for Libra than tease, not because it's wrong but because I thought it would be misunderstood - because most people use "tease" to mean "withhold," whereas I using it to mean "temporarily withhold, then [usually] deliver!" Libra has a major pattern, that pervades much of their life and character, of entice, deny, gratify. It's how they treat their own and a partner's pleasure. It's how they write, give a speech or a performance, fight, engage in their employment. If you observe Libras, you can find many places where this exact sequence of entice, deny, gratify is played out. I summarized this in the word "tease.

And so forth.

Also, remember (as written above) that these words were not intended to be a final word, but rather a first word - a way to start a conversation. These three words would expand into many words. I could meet you at a party, learn your birthdate, and go, "Oh, you're a Sagittarius: You're all about quality, heritage, and your tribe, right?" And then we're off on a conversation that can go a hundred ways.
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I wonder how many people, a panel, would decide on these. I wish I was apart of a team, panel, on the matter. Like scientifically. For example, a team of x amount of sidereal astrologers doing experiments and concluding Capricorn is wild
Well, golly, that's what we do here all the time. You're describing the parameters these come from. The "panel" you're already on (to the extent you choose to participate) are the monthly conversations on observations about Sun (and now Moon) in the constellations.
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Re: Sidereal Sun, Moon, & Mars Sign Summaries

Post by James Condor » Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:55 am

Ah, indeed

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