SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

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SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by coolcoolwcr » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:10 pm

Initially I expected this moon-pluto event to happen on 7.8 because that was the date the aspect became exact. Nothing happened at 0708. it happened a bit earlier at 7.1.

What happened was that at 20180630 this "friend" of mine did something that {nassed} me off. Before this time our relationship was strained already. And what happened at 20180630 forced me to make my decision to break off this relationship. It was in the morning of 20180701 that I finally became firm and decided to part my ways with him.

The nature of this event is pretty much colored by pluto energy. interpretation of moon-pluto progression aspect: separation, divorce, upheavel in relationship and etc.

I have checked my SNQ chart and expected angular moon-pluto was not there. Probably this is a good example to test if PSN chart works if it can put moon-pluto on angles.

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Re: SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:28 pm

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Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:10 pm
Initially I expected this moon-pluto event to happen on 7.8 because that was the date the aspect became exact. Nothing happened at 0708. it happened a bit earlier at 7.1.p
It can express itself anytime it is within a 1° which, for a lunar progression, means a roughly two-month window. Within that, it does tend to manifest close to the date it is exact if nothing deflects it to a different date. Additionally (as you probably know) you have Moon opposite natal Pluto July 27 (when it will also be on your quotidian angles), and Moon hits the midpoint of the two Plutos July 17. These are all "hit" days.
What happened was that at 20180630 this "friend" of mine did something that {nassed} me off. Before this time our relationship was strained already. And what happened at 20180630 forced me to make my decision to break off this relationship. It was in the morning of 20180701 that I finally became firm and decided to part my ways with him.
With Moon-Pluto progression well within orb, you also had transiting Uranus conjunct natal MC within 6' - close enough that it could have been exact, if your birthtime is off by only a few seconds (less than half a minute). It was triggered in any case because that was the day of the Mercury-Uranus square, giving another layer of meaning to the Uranus transit. Then, depending on what time this occurred, it may also have been when transiting Moon zipped across it all (early afternoon).
I have checked my SNQ chart and expected angular moon-pluto was not there. Probably this is a good example to test if PSN chart works if it can put moon-pluto on angles.
I think it was the Mercury transit triggering the Uranus transit but, yes, I'd love the chance to heck.. let's take a look.

(Checking.) Using the mean way of clculating the PNR, nothing is near the angles that might be useful, even if the angles were tweaked a bit by exact calculation. ANd, of course the PNR throws off the Moon-Pluto opposition altogether, since it has your progressed Moon forward at 3° Leo.
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Re: SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by coolcoolwcr » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:13 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:28 pm

you have Moon opposite natal Pluto July 27 (when it will also be on your quotidian angles), and Moon hits the midpoint of the two Plutos July 17. These are all "hit" days.
I am not certain whether progress moon transit to midpoint of plutos will work. But 0718 is when t.sun hits n.saturn by opposition and an exact mars-pluto aspect will appear in tertiary progressions chart. Guess I will soon learn whether tertiary progression works if I endure some form of violence/threatening experience.

As for july 27 I too expect some moon-pluto experience to appear. For now i have no idea.
It was triggered in any case because that was the day of the Mercury-Uranus square
I dont think it has anything to do with mercury-uranus. The nature of the event does not fit mercury uranus and this planetary combo didn't hit my natal planets/points.
(Checking.) Using the mean way of clculating the PNR, nothing is near the angles that might be useful
maybe PSN is not working at all, otherwise fagan would have already figured it out while he was alive.

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:45 pm

And of course I knew you would disagree with essentially everything, since that's what you do.
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Re: SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by coolcoolwcr » Tue Jul 17, 2018 6:33 pm

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Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:45 pm
And of course I knew you would disagree with essentially everything, since that's what you do.
Not fair. :( I think the approval of others matters little to me. What drives me most is the desire to find true astrology knowledge.

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Re: SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:58 pm

No, that's fair, because that is what you do. I don't think you have to worry about approval here. :mrgreen:
If you want to find true astrological knowledge, try not biting the hands feeding you. Although I do know you're a scorpion (not Scorpio) and we're turtles.

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Re: SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by coolcoolwcr » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:31 pm

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:58 pm
No, that's fair, because that is what you do. I don't think you have to worry about approval here. :mrgreen:
If you want to find true astrological knowledge, try not biting the hands feeding you. Although I do know you're a scorpion (not Scorpio) and we're turtles.
Today is my sun to saturn transit day. I know some unfavorable comment from people of higher position is likely,as sun is involved. Afterall sun-saturn transit is deemed the most unlucky days of the year.

transiting sun, representing someone of a higher rank in society, illuminates my natal saturn, exposing my weakness and inferiority complexes. I have to admit shamefully that indeed I am a child of pluto as pluto square my angles and aspects some personal planets.(though I cant admit that I am a scopion)

(by the way JPSD you also tried to provoke me when transiting sun opposite my natal neptune, as an attempt to humiliate me, which I didn't respond to because I have foreseen it in my chart. Probably freewill really exist.)

But I am not angry at any of you guys. If anything I am grateful.(to god) If some form of neptunian/saturnian events has to happen I'd rather it happen here in this internet forum instead of my real life.

Today another saturnian event also happened. I lifted a desktop computer through 3 floors and 100 meters. My arm is still aching.

I did experience some form of mars-pluto event as is shown in teitery progression chart. Strangely it didn't manifest in real life but in my dream. Yesterday night I dreamt of myself vehemently beating someone with pent-up anger released. Though in real life this is a most ordinary and peaceful day with no violence/threatening experience.

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Re: SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:54 pm

Take another look at your chart. I've never tried to "humiliate" you despite the way you take it. I have been a bit snarky, but that's a response in kind - you were snarky first. And I'm afraid, because of your being snarky so often, that's how people here react to you. You came here with a chip on your shoulder, daring everyone to knock it off.

What I'm saying isn't intended to humiliate you, nor am I trying to be snarky here. I think this transit has something for you to learn. I want you to take what I'm saying and look at it, and see if you can see why I'm saying this to you.

The scorpion story is here: The Scorpion and the Turtle

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Re: SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by coolcoolwcr » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:13 am

JPSD, just then i got so curious and had to take a look at your chart and our comparison chart.

What strike me the most is your natal venus placement as it has a really frightening close conjunction with pluto. What's worse this planetary conjunction is squared by mars.

snarky is a good word i leanred from you. In the worst case you are the type that can make a spouse commit suicide.

What's makes things worse is your venus-pluto is uncomfortably too close to my ascendant and square my natal mercury. Your mars also sits around my natal pluto, and sits exactly square my asc/dsc. And my pluto is square your venus (both combo can't be good).

I am currently having transiting pluto in aspect to venus so it's likely I am attracting plutonian individual into my life. But I want to see if I can deflect this pluto transit and endure this period without much upheavel in my relationship.

Currently my vpn connection is dead otherwise I will have a good look at the "scopion and turtle" article!

Now I can only pray for peace to befall between us.

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Re: SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by coolcoolwcr » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:38 am

By the way, I have observed that an unusually high rate of active forum members have venus-pluto aspect. (including myself) Perhaps forum admin's scopio venus plus a square to pluto tends to attract such people to the forum.

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Re: SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:16 am

coolcoolwcr wrote:
Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:13 am
What strike me the most is your natal venus placement as it has a really frightening close conjunction with pluto. What's worse this planetary conjunction is squared by mars.
LOL, a frightening close Venus-Pluto conjunction? Do you consider the aspect itself frightening, or just the orb? It's a whole 0°19' wide, nothing like the 0°13' of my square <g>, which I consider one of my best features.
In the worst case you are the type that can make a spouse commit suicide.
That's pretty rude.
Your mars also sits... exactly square my asc/dsc.
Yes, that's probably the main thing you two have to juggle.
I am currently having transiting pluto in aspect to venus
Sextiles by transit really aren't worth much if anything. The main thing going on in your chart by transit is Uranus conjunct your MC (and recently Jupiter square your Ascendant). Over the next days and weeks, Mars will retrograde past the square to your Sun then Moon.
But I want to see if I can deflect this pluto transit and endure this period without much upheavel in my relationship.
Good news: You will, since the sextile transit isn't likely to have any effect at all. OTOH, Uranus on your MC can be expected to rearrange many areas of your life, including (or, especially) your point of view on them.
By the way, I have observed that an unusually high rate of active forum members have venus-pluto aspect. (including myself) Perhaps forum admin's scopio venus plus a square to pluto tends to attract such people to the forum.
I'm siure I set a tone that affects who finds the place comfortable or interesting. For example, the body of the forum isn't intended as "social media" but as a classroom (though we've recently added a space as a "social hangout" in Club Aldebaran.
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Re: SP chart Moon-Pluto opposition for breaking up with a friend

Post by coolcoolwcr » Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:58 pm

hey hoo , it's been a while since I came to the forum , probably half a month. Many things happened during this time and all the predicted events in chart happened some of which I want to share with you guys now.

During this half a month time I was enlisted to serve in a summer camp project. I was responsible for much activity that require muscles, like lifting and transporting heavy stuff, preparing equipment, cleaning room and etc. The most prominent feature for this demi-lunar return was t.saturn exactly conjunct asc. A lot of responsibility and heavy burden was thrusted on me.

I found teritary progression to be working because on the day teitary sun opposite n.pluto someone wanted to dominate me by requiring me by obey his orders without questioning. Teitary progression aspect seems to work just like transit. It feels very similar to transiting sun opposite n.pluto

On the date secondary progression moon opposite natal pluto, which was exactly July 27th. I was wronged. Someone accuse me of breaking an equipment, but I was most probably innocent. However I accepted to be fined. Money loss was insignificant I just wanted this unpleasant lunar progression to pass.

I have been observing transits for a few years and accumulated some experience/knowledge. I envisioned, probably I would write an article talking about my own understanding of transits just like fagan did in his solunar handbook. I learnt a lot from fagan's interpretation but now I have my own, unique insight. In a later date, if freetime is abundant, I will write and post it on the forum.

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