Moon in Virgo sign project

This is where I am temporarily filing the Sun- and Moon-constellation discussions of the last year if I have dug through the content yet, matching them to my own data pools.
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Moon in Virgo sign project

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:48 pm

Welcome to the Moon in Virgo discussions project, which will run September 17 - October 17, 2018 (and then will remain around in case people want to revisit it in the future). Please gather your list of Moon in Virgo people (especially those you know personally) and join us.

Here are Moon in Virgo interpretive resources on the forum:
Primary section: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=34#p147
Cyril Fagan: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=105&p=636#p659
Garth Allen: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=33#p135
Manilius: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121#p743

My current concise summary of Moon in Virgo (always subject to change) reads:
Intellectual, strategic, analytical, calculating, data-driven, efficient. Intuitive, bizarrely illogical (moody, resistant). Plays victim & retaliates (abuse, betrayal). Service, loyal, devoted, contributing. Courageous. Innocent, simple, modest; expects respect. Romantic, flirtatious; shy. Too serious. Nervous sensitivity.
Here is other material that may be of interest in this regard:
Notes on Virgo (Garth Allen) https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1978#p14102
Virgo https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1111
Sidereal Virgo & Health https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=434
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Re: Moon in Virgo sign project

Post by Avshalom Binyamin » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:48 pm

Foreground Moon in Virgo, checking in.

I'd say the existing Moon in Virgo essays are pretty spot-on.

Notes:

For a while, I've on some level resented--while seeing a bit of truth in--the suggestion of "playing the victim". (Yes, I'm aware of the irony of that sentence :lol: )

I did not have a happy childhood. There was a lot of abusive behavior in my family, and I experienced physical, sexual, emotional abuse. As an adult, one of my big, karmic life events was having a much older sister who abused me all throughout my childhood turn on me when I began to become independent of her influence, and try to accuse me of the things she had done. (Fortunately, the painful crisis resulted in increased awareness of my family's dynamics and history, and ultimately freed me from them).

I was bullied and beat up in junior high pretty frequently. Being a weird, sensitive know-it-all with a too-big vocabulary wasn't helpful.

Language comes easy for me. Though I am out of practice through disuse, when I was 21, I spoke English, Spanish, French, Arabic. Two weeks in Italy was enough for me to be conversational with the locals by the end.

I have seasonal allergies. I am shy/bashful, but have strong appetites. Overeating comes easily.

As a younger person, was too serious.

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Post by sotonye » Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:13 pm

I know two Virgo Moons intimately, one is a pretty girl I was involved with and the other is a close associate. Both seem to have some pretense to erudition and try their absolute best to speak in a high-flown fashion, but to the result of appearing a little ridiculous. Their own friends have an issue with this and have told me on several occasions that they try to appear intellectual, that they try to, "seem deep," and while I don't have any issue with that, it does seem true. (The reason why I have no issue being that they do try their best in conversation and have a great appreciation for communication they consider decent). Both are social to a fault and will go out of their way to keep the company of any society despite how contrary those little coteries are to their own definitions of quality. In short they keep bad company and know it well, in fact they will even list the sins of all their mates as if they were the only things true about them. They do seem to tolerate quite a bit from others as outlined by the Moon Constellation resource, and I know this partly because I am a bit absurd and will occasionally test their limits in this respect, and partly because the abuses and losses they suffered at home were quite severe and yet they still found a way to preserve. The same is true with respect to the abuses they've suffered in romance, they seem very quick to forgive, more than quick, it's as if the abuses never happened the moment after they occur. In close correspondence with this behavior, they also seem very quick to lend a helping hand and are perhaps more caring than they would like to admit.

This is all I can think of for now

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Re: Moon in Virgo sign project

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Sep 30, 2018 3:51 pm

Anyone else want to jump in? We're about halfway through the month.
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Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:48 pm

Other than people here, I know one Moon in Virgo well. I don't know her birth time but this is a Sun in Taurus partile conjunct Mercury holding a close sextile with a class two Saturn Mars conjunction in Leo. Jupiter is square Pluto, and trine Uranus. Pluto is a partile inconjunct from Neptune, which I don't think matters. Venus is unaspected. The Moon is probably unaspected.

She works as a nurse in the emergency room at an Internationally Known Prestigious Hospital, which she will be happy to mention. She believes this gives her superior medical and health knowledge. She works the night shift by choice, but complains about it constantly.

She's a delicate flower with many allergies, so she controls choice of restaurant and even what other people cook. She claims to be very fair skinned and prone to sunburn although most would consider her olive-complected. She's taken enough time off work for migraines and respiratory concerns to endanger her job, although she won't see a doctor for either. She has free medical care through her job but does not choose to use it.

She loves to travel and does a lot of if with extended family and groups of friends. She attends many conferences and seminars through her job. She buys expensive clothes and lots of makeup and everybody knows exactly how much her bras cost, which she claims she must pay because she's so “well-endowed.” She's also clinically obese, but if she lost weight she'd lose the “well-endowed” too. She drives a fancy German car but complains about how much it costs to keep on the road. She was born in Hawaii, and wants to be seen as exotic, but has no Hawaiian or Asian blood. She likes to "hula" but whether or not that's what she's actually doing is a matter of opinion.

She claims to be often taken advantage of romantically while going through husbands, her own and other people's, at a fair rate. She is very concerned with the appearance of propriety and was very upset after being convicted for felony fraud someone sent a copy of the conviction documents to her parents, who were unaware of her peccadilloes, other than that one husband who took all the furniture when he moved out.

I think a lot of this stuff has nothing to do with her Virgo Moon.

She is willing to research medical problems and offer advice on the best doctor or surgeon. She likes animals, although she doesn't really spend enough time at home to keep a pet. She likes to garden, but now just keeps a few planters on her back deck where they can be watered by a sprinkler on a timer.

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Re: Moon in Virgo sign project

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:47 am

Wrapping up the Virgo month in a couple of days. I have the Libra thread ready to go (I'll be on the road). Anyone have more specific stuff to share on Virgo Moons?

PS - Over the last couple of days, elsewhere I was in a long online discussion about the history of the Democratic Party, which seems to have had its start from Andrew Jackson's first campaign speech (outlining the political principles from which the party formed around him) January 8, 1828, 6:30 PM, Concord, NH.

The Sagittarius Sun is quite interesting and complex. For one, the donkey which was later used as a pejorative against the party, and then taken up as its symbol, is species equus, i.e., it's a variety of horse; so Sagittarius is the only constellation that expresses the symbolism that was so naturally taken up by the party.

Where Sagittarius is more complicated is that the party was founded to stand against elitists and to maximize the full Democracy of voter participation across classes. This is quite un-Sagittarius. Against this, I say too things: First, despite its historic principles standing against elitism, it's hardly been free of the same trait itself. Second, this Sagittarius Sun is conjoined by Neptune and opposed by Saturn, so does rightly symbolize an assault on things Sagittarian.

But my main reason for posting this here isn't the Sagittarius Sun - it's the Virgo Moon. The party was founded in support of virgonian social principles, especially in support of the common person, and in support of labors - especially farmers in the south and industrial laborers in the north. Mostly, it has continued 190 years in alliance with these groups (not so much in the last election) and other groups of similar symbolism, including labor unions and the health industry.
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Re: Moon in Virgo sign project

Post by Veronica » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:33 pm

Moon in Virgo:
I don’t have any people in my life with Moon in Virgo to share.
I have though spent the past 5 years in a relationship with a man, and according to our composite midpoint chart my natal moon in Scorpio and his natal moon in cancer are sitting in Virgo moon.
I spent some time looking over the links regarding this aspect and I would say that for an indicator of how our joint moon is in our relationship this aspect is quite right. If I read the summaries and instead of thinking of how they are for an individual and think of them as our moon dynamic it is very telling on how our relationship subconsciously played out, with both the good and the not so good. Im not sure if this really qualifies for what you are looking for in contributions, but I thought I would chimes in and at least say, from what I read of the summaries and from all the links provided it feels true to me that our relationship Virgo Moon fits the bill, although I do also have to take into account that our moon is conjunct Pluto, as well as the fact that our own natural moons (Scorpio and cancer) adds flavor to this dynamic.
I also think that in this aspect we do have a very uncanny and deep ESP like sense, more so then I have ever experienced. Also I can say that I personally have never worked better with someone in our financial ventures, we seemed to be able to capitalize on all the intellectual aspects we both brought to the table and uncanninagly motivated and encouraged each other to work harder and smarter in our field. For us I also see we had a very active tit for tat kinda of childish hurt feelings that I think played out in unspoken affronts to our ego, things that we built up and conconcted in our our minds that were not based on real truths but subjective fears and other negative emotions that arose most likely from the strong connection to pluto as well as our own personal nativity.

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Re: Moon in Virgo sign project

Post by Mike » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:06 am

Virgo Moon, chiming in at the end here...

"Virgo rapidly assimilates the multitude of details surrounding a new person, idea, or situation, and with equal speed leaps at the core meaning or underlying principle to enhance his understanding."

That single sentence is one of the best descriptors of Virgo Moon that I've seen, and is essentially a particular phrasing of what my current articulation of my life purpose is.

I've also strongly identified with the whole "emotions infused with logic, logic infused with emotions" theme of Moon-Mercury, and of using intellectual understanding as a shield against emotional experience.

I can relate to much, though not all of what Av said regarding early life experiences, though I was never physically beaten up in school. I definitely identify with the "takes a lot of abuse" concept; I tend to be willing to accept a lot of sh*t before I bail.
I have a large vocabulary, read voraciously, learn very quickly. Languages have come easily to me throughout life, both spoken languages and programming languages. I relate to Av on all of these.

The "crazy spells" thing is, for me, experienced as a wave of emotions breaking free of conscious control, and either surrendering to a reactive state of mind, or dissociating from it (which feels, in all ways, worse than just being reactive for a time). In any case, I don't really seem to get the "suddenly irrational" thing anymore, though I used to when I was younger.
I can also resonate with some of what JSAD describes in his Virgo Moon contact, regarding generally illogical, self-victimizing, and avoidant behavior. However, in all of this, I have trouble separating Virgo Moon traits from those of my 7' Moon-Neptune square, and 2*35' Moon-Saturn square.

I have the emotional and cerebral sensitivity, orientation towards an "inner fantasy realm," response when stressed, etc. I'm not particularly allergic or sensitive to food, etc, except insofar as I am very sensitive to drugs - caffeine, alcohol, nicotine, etc.

I would consider myself somewhat flirty, but it's always done in play, almost never as an attempt to actually court someone (where I tend to try the "mating dance" of Sagittarius), and so I've always thought it was more of a Mars-Venus thing (I have a sextile just outside of 3* between them; it's the only aspect that either has).

I'm especially taken with the "service-devoted assistant" type of theme presented in the longer description here on the forum. I much prefer being #2 over #1 (...but also prefer being #2 over any lower number :lol: ). Even given my Sag Sun and foreground Mars, I would rather be an expert consultant than a direct leader.
In any case though, I need to feel like I'm an integral part of a team that I'm serving, otherwise I have trouble feeling engaged. I think the tribalism of my Sag Sun helps with this, though.

Finally, I don't see this mentioned explicitly anywhere, but I have obsessive-compulsive disorder (diagnosed twice). I guess it's an expression of the "analytic and too serious" thing coupled with an overactive imagination, plus themes of environmental control, self-defense, perfectionism, etc.

Also don't see this mentioned for Moon in Virgo, only Sun in Virgo, but I'm very slight for a guy, at 5'6" and averaging 110 pounds for the last 10 years.

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Re: Moon in Virgo sign project

Post by Avshalom Binyamin » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:30 am

I would point out an overlap between two groups, based on Jim's comment:

Virgo moon is common for writers, and historically the best writers have always come from lower and middle class backgrounds, not the educated elite.

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