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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by SteveS » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:39 pm

Jim wrote:
… and there is something very Young Kennedy about him.
I totally agree! I feel like Beto may have something in him which offers unification for a divided America. But first, I would need to get a feel for what 'unification policies' (if any) he runs on if running for Prez.

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:59 pm

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Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:39 pm
I feel like Beto may have something in him which offers unification for a divided America. But first, I would need to get a feel for what 'unification policies' (if any) he runs on if running for Prez.
The Wikipedia article on him has a decent summary of what he has supported during his three terms in Congress.
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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by SteveS » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:22 pm

Thanks Jim, I will check it out.

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by SteveS » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:24 am

This article reminds me when the Republican voters revolted against their 'traditional' candidates for Prez in 2016, and voted Trump to represent their frustrations as Prez. Now, it appears to be happening in the Democratic Party with Beto as a possible candidate for Prez.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmdg ... over-again

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by SteveS » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:35 am

Wikipedia article on Beto said:
He said that he (Beto) planned to run a positive campaign, not focused on President Trump or Ted Cruz, although his political positions may be seen as a direct criticism of them.

Beto did run a positive campaign vs Cruz for Texas Senate and focused on 'compassion' for all Americans.

Wikipedia article on Beto said:
Some supporters say that O'Rourke's "promise of compassion" more than any specific policy positions has drawn their support for him.
And remember Beto came close to defeating Cruz in Texas, traditionally the most conservative State in the America. IMO, IF Beto is running against Trump for 2020 Prez, I maintain Trump's political 'attack' tactics vs his political opponents will not work against Beto, it will backfire on Trump. I also believe Beto 'promise of compassion" in a Prez campaign vs Trump will win many votes from the older Democratic centralist in America and Independent voters.

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:11 am

There's a really good chance that BO's Moon closely squares Trump's Mars (sitting on Trump's MC) - that will certainly make for fierce spats. It does mean that Trump has the ability to "get Beto's goat" and set him off reactively.

(Dang, I had registered that Obama and O'Rourke probably have the same Moon sign - hence the comparison of their "innocuous, unthreatening" campaign rhetoric styles - but until now I hadn't noticed they have the same initials!)

BO's Saturn conjoins T's Sun-Uranus and opposes his Mon. B has the capacity to hurt T fundamentally.

B's Venus is on T's EP. This may give him a little grace under fire, which he would need from the Moon-Mars interchange.

B's Sun conjoins T's Neptune. He can embarrass Trump, and the ability to "get the goat" isn't one-sided.

Their Mercuries are square. They would engage and engage and engage.

B's Uranus is on Trump's Jupiter within minutes. This could go several ways, so no particular comment.
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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:01 am

O'Rourke got as close to Cruz as he did in large part because of how well funded he was. He got a lot of small donations from Democrats who had nobody to vote for in their own states.

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by SteveS » Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:57 am

Beto leading in Move-On straw poll for Prez.

https://www.chron.com/news/politics/tex ... 458200.php

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by SteveS » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:20 am

O'Rourke ran his campaign (Texas Senate Campaign) without professional pollsters or consultants and instead relied on volunteers,[74] many of whom had no experience in running a political campaign.[citation needed] The campaign also employed the use of mass text messages to constituents.[75] A large part of his campaign strategy hinged on his online presence. According to the 2018 third-quarter report from the FEC, his campaign spent US$7.3 million on digital advertising alone (in contrast with Cruz's $251,000).[76] His first ad was filmed on an iPhone.[76][77] He also posted to various social media platforms daily (including Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook), and livestreamed his activities while traveling the state, such as skateboarding in a Whataburger parking lot, washing clothes at a laundromat, and "block walking" in his constituents' neighborhoods.[78] He encouraged supporters to post selfies they had taken with him to their social media.
Question Jim:

If Beto runs for Prez and uses a-lot of his same ‘online’/social media Virgo tactics as he did above, Jim, would it possible for you as host of an Astrological Forum and a Facebook presence in California, maybe indirectly contact Beto/Staff and ask for a copy of his birth certificate with birth time to be posted somewhere online-- so astrologers could accurately calculate his Natal Chart to see his winning symbolism for Prez. :)

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:51 am

One could always try. Steve, I hereby appoint you Director of Data Integrity for this forum (a task for which you are well suited). As part of your duties, please contact the O'Rourke campaign or Congressman O'Rourke's office in DC (where he serves through January 2) and make these inquiries.

Thanks! :)
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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by SteveS » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:21 am

I got all the time in the world for this task Jim, and I certainly will give it my best effort. If Beto runs for Prez, can I use your forum as a reference for us Sidereal Astrologers for a possible post from his staff of his BC? I will run all of my possible communication through you first for opinions and possible changes.

Didn't Obama's campaign post a copy of his BC online because of all the Rep doubters he was a citizen?

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:27 am

Hurrah for our new Director of Data Coordination!
I wouldn't ask any Democrat (or really any politician of any flavor) for a copy of their birth certificate.
Trump made that forever icky. He was trying to derail any discussion of actual policy, and it worked very nicely.

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by SteveS » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:58 am

JSAD wrote:
I wouldn't ask any Democrat (or really any politician of any flavor) for a copy of their birth certificate.
Why not? Obama posted a copy of his BC, right? If Beto runs for Prez, I think he would not mind posting a copy of his BC somewhere online through his many methods of campaigning online. I know one thing for sure, if he runs, I am going to do all I can to get his staff to post his BC through some type of digital options. :)

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:03 pm

Because you'll be dismissed as a Trump supporter trying to start something.

Seriously, ask for Month, Day, Year, Time, AM or PM, Town or City, County, State and source of the information. I know you want the birth certificate, but I think you'll get more birth data if you don't ask for a copy of the certificate.

You'll also get it faster. Birth certificates have information that can be used by scammers, before they give copies out, the campaign will have to set up protection for the candidate and his family against having that information abused.

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by SteveS » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:08 pm

Will do JSAD, makes sense. But I sure did like seeing an online copy of Obama's BC as a Sidereal Astrologer.

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:38 pm

We all did. But it cost us the option of asking for one.

Julian and Joaquin Castro are going to be on Steven Colbert tonight. Good chance to observe Julian before he's one of 23 Democratic candidates competing in for the 2020 nomination.

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Re: Beto O'Rourke

Post by SteveS » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:44 pm

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