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2020 super bowl predictions

Post by James Condor » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:25 am

I predict Baltimore Ravens vs Seattle Seahawks
Winner-Ravens

Playoff teams
NFC:
East- 4. Cowboys
North-3. Packers
West- 2. Seahawks
South-1. Saints
Wild card- 5. Niners and 6. Vikings

AFC:
East-2. Patriots
North-1. Ravens
West-3. Chiefs
South-4. Texans
Wild Card-5. Bills and 6. Colts


NFC wild card
6Vikings over 3Packers
5Niners over 4Cowboys

AFC wild card
3Chiefs over 6Colts
5Bills of 4Texans

NFC divisional
1Saints over 6Vikings
2Seahawks over 5Niners

NFC championship
2Seahawks over 1 Saints

AFC divisional
1Ravens over 3 Chiefs
2Patriots over 5Bills

AFC championship
1Ravens of 2Patriots

Super Bowl
1Ravens over 2Seahawks
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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:27 am

Is this based on astrology or other criteria?
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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by James Condor » Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:29 am

It’s based on astrology.
Anyone else want to make a prediction?

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:22 am

James Condor wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 5:29 am
It’s based on astrology.
Anyone else want to make a prediction?
I'm not making a prediction until we know the teams.

Meanwhile, could you please give your astrological basis for the prediction so we can discuss it?
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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by James Condor » Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:56 am

I figured you can figure out with a good chance who the teams will be like you’ve done before. You can’t predict the teams? I’m not giving up my astrological analysis until the super bowl is over.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:10 am

James Condor wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:56 am
I figured you can figure out with a good chance who the teams will be like you’ve done before. You can’t predict the teams? I’m not giving up my astrological analysis until the super bowl is over.
Since I don't follow sports, I couldn't even tell you all the cities that have teams; and if I did know who the teams are and how they are doing this year, I'd consider that a cheat.

I can tell you that a line from central Wisconsin straight south through Memphis to New Orleans marks a patch that has the worst likelihood of winning and, if there are no short-term "lose" markers, then an arc from the Texas panhandle to near Minneapolis has the best chance of winning; but, of course, that depends on teams being near those lines and centered in cities that have a strongly sports-centric culture for the city. (All we're judging usually is the psychological tone of a region, so areas that care more passionately about the sport are easier to predict than areas that care less.)
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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by James Condor » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:26 am

Ok. Based on that-
You have the Minnesota Vikings vs the Kansas City Chiefs in the Super Bowl. (I assume)

The New Orleans Saints who are in first place and doing well, will not play in the Super Bowl. Also , the first place Green Bay Packers, who are sorta near the line you mentioned, won’t make it.

The Minnesota Vikings and Kansas City Chiefs are both very good teams, are playing well and most likely will make the playoffs, will play in the Super bowl.

Houston is playing well, will most likely make the playoffs, but aren’t near the Texas panhandle. So they don’t make the Super bowl. The Tennessee Titian’s play In Nashville and maybe close enough to the line of teams who don’t make it. Tennessee has a statistical chance to make the playoffs

Every team I mentioned in my prediction, with the exception of maybe three (Colts Titans, Pittsburgh Steelers), most likely will make the playoffs. The Indianapolis Colts are the only team I picked to make the playoffs who are underdogs to even make it. The Tennessee Titans are underdogs to make the playoffs too, but are not out of it.
Now I did pick the Colts over the Titans to make the playoffs. The Pittsburgh Steelers could also make the playoffs
NFL football plays 16 regular season games and follows the playoffs format I have posted above. Any team that makes the playoffs will have a very strong fan base. But there are statistics on fan base rankings.
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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:57 am

James Condor wrote:
Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:26 am
Ok. Based on that-
You have the Minnesota Vikings vs the Kansas City Chiefs in the Super Bowl. (I assume)
Based on... what? Just current performance?
The New Orleans Saints who are in first place and doing well, will not play in the Super Bowl.

Or, as we've often seen in the past, they do play in the Super Bowl so that it can fulfill the symbolism by their losing the Super Bowl.

So for all the others: There are too many variables until we know the teams. (I haven't even looked up, and you haven't posted in this thread, when/where the game will be.)
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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by James Condor » Fri Dec 06, 2019 8:39 am

Well you didn’t pick any teams so I had to make an assumption as to what you meant.
The Super Bowl is February 2 in Hard Rock Stadium, Miami Gardens Florida
Only one team from each conference can play in the Super bowl. Minnesota and New Orleans are in the same NFC conference and cannot play each other. You said Minnesota has the best chance of winning so they have to be your super bowl team from the NFC

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by Veronica » Sun Dec 22, 2019 4:26 am

I want the Vikings to play in the Super bowl against the Patriots, and I want the Vikings to win.
Btw Im a Cheese head and have loved Green Bay since a child.
I am basing this soley on my personal astrology of who I like best this year, and who I believe deserves to win.
If the Vikings loose tomorrow night then I want GreenBay to beat the Patriots in the super bowl.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by SteveS » Thu Jan 02, 2020 7:19 am

IF the Chiefs (Kansas City, Missouri) play Baltimore Ravens for the AFC Championship on 1/19/2020, app end of game 6:00 PM EST, I predict a high % the Chiefs will upset the favored Ravens based on the stack of Sidereal Mundane Charts, which are a most interesting contrasting stack of charts. If these two teams meet for the AFC Championship, I will post these charts before kick-off.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by SteveS » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:43 am

Vegas odds on possible Super Bowl Contestants for the playoff teams:
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS BUFFALO BILLS+6000
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS KANSAS CITY CHIEFS+350
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS+1200
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS BALTIMORE RAVENS+225
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS HOUSTON TEXANS+5000
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS TENNESSEE TITANS+6000
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES VS BUFFALO BILLS+30000
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES VS KANSAS CITY CHIEFS+4000
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES VS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS+15000
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES VS BALTIMORE RAVENS+2500
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES VS HOUSTON TEXANS+30000
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES VS TENNESSEE TITANS+30000
GREEN BAY PACKERS VS BUFFALO BILLS+11000
GREEN BAY PACKERS VS KANSAS CITY CHIEFS+950
GREEN BAY PACKERS VS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS+2000
GREEN BAY PACKERS VS BALTIMORE RAVENS+625
GREEN BAY PACKERS VS HOUSTON TEXANS+9000
GREEN BAY PACKERS VS TENNESSEE TITANS+11000
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS VS BUFFALO BILLS+8000
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS VS KANSAS CITY CHIEFS+700
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS VS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS+2300
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS VS BALTIMORE RAVENS+400
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS VS HOUSTON TEXANS+7000
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS VS TENNESSEE TITANS+8000
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS VS BUFFALO BILLS+30000
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS VS KANSAS CITY CHIEFS+3500
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS VS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS+8000
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS VS BALTIMORE RAVENS+2300
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS VS HOUSTON TEXANS+30000
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS VS TENNESSEE TITANS+30000
MINNESOTA VIKINGS VS BUFFALO BILLS+30000
MINNESOTA VIKINGS VS KANSAS CITY CHIEFS+5000
MINNESOTA VIKINGS VS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS+15000
MINNESOTA VIKINGS VS BALTIMORE RAVENS+2500
MINNESOTA VIKINGS VS HOUSTON TEXANS+30000
MINNESOTA VIKINGS VS TENNESSEE TITANS+30000

Vegas odds for a playoff team winning the Super Bowl:
Ravens
+200
49ers
+400
Chiefs
+400
Saints
+550
Packers
+1200
Patriots
+1200
Seahawks
+2500
Eagles
+3500
Texans
+5000
Vikings
+4000
Bills
+5000
Titans
+4000

Next for recreational gambling purposes, I will post my wager for which two teams I think will make it to the Super Bowl based solely on 2020 Capsolars (Master Chart for the Year) for the two cities, based on certain teaching principles by Jim with his Super Bowl Report.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by SteveS » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:15 am

Wagering 50$ at +350 to win 175$ on a Super Bowl Match between San Francisco 49ers and the Kansas City Chiefs.

San Francisco 2020 Mundo Capsolar:
https://imgur.com/bY9amHl

Note Mundo Capsolar Venus 00,29 partile cnj San Francisco Capsolar Ascendant.

Kansas City Missouri 2020 Capsolar:
https://imgur.com/w98yIVI

Note Capsolar Jupiter cnj Capsolar MC; Mundo Jupiter 01,30 cnj MC.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by Veronica » Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:55 am

Looking at a chart for Orchard Park today at 7pm seems as if the Bills may win. The Moon is Conjunct Uranus in the MC trine Jupiter.

The people here are dying for a win.
With that aspect it seems as if the Bills may shock us with an win.
But they may also shock us with an almost win.. .they are the bills after all and have blown it before and the fans still love them.
I think today though they will win.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by SteveS » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:10 am

V wrote:
Looking at a chart for Orchard Park today at 7pm seems as if the Bills may win. The Moon is Conjunct Uranus in the MC trine Jupiter. The people here are dying for a win. With that aspect it seems as if the Bills may shock us with an win. But they may also shock us with an almost win.. .they are the bills after all and have blown it before and the fans still love them. I think today though they will win.
Definitely one of the top 5 most exciting bizarre/shocking games I have witness in my entire 72 years of lifetime. Probably contributed to V's observation with the Moon cnj Uranus last night. Donald Bradley, a great siderelists stated for pure excitement--look for unafflicted Uranus aspects.

There was no way the Bills should have lost their game with the Texans last night after leading 16-0 late in the 3rd quarter, but they lost 22-19 in a most bizarre overtime. Using Jim's Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) guidelines along with his Super Bowl Report with statistical analysis of 50 Super Bowl games, SMA clearly showed a very high % the Bills would lose (Saturn) their game with the Texans, and high % with Sidereal Mundane Astrology the Texans would win (Jupiter) their game with the Bills. Jim clearly states in his Super Bowl Report one should not pick winners (Jupiter)--but pick losing teams with angular Saturn, and Buffalo had Saturn all over its SMA charts with the Texans having Jupiter in their SMA charts, a rarity to see contrasting Jupiter and Saturn combos with an important sporting contest. If anyone would like for me to go into chart details with Jim's words using Jim's guidelines from his Super Bowl Report, I will be glad to post these details.

The Texans were a 3 point favorite last night with Vegas points spread and won by 3; therefore, betting value was absent for this game with my personal guidelines for wagering using Sidereal Mundane Astrology for important sporting contests.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by Veronica » Sun Jan 05, 2020 8:10 am

Steve

I hear every word
I agree
I knew better
But.....
It was the Bills....my local team. I live in the red white and blue zone.....
I had to cheer for them.

My chart was for 7pm.
They were winning at that point.
But then that darn moon just drifted away.

I couldnt watch on screen but watched the downs and time on the pc and let me tell you the air was thick.
The most intense game I never watched.
Thats the Bills for ya.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by SteveS » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:15 am

V, I was pulling for the Bills too, but my peak interest in watching this game was to see how the Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) charts manifested with so much Saturn on Buffalo's charts. Of course we now know how Buffalo's Saturn manifested for their fans---a gut wrenching Saturn loss. Of all the SMA charts I have analyzed this season for very important football contest, I have only seen two situations where Saturn was angular with the SMA charts; Tuscaloosa, Alabama when Bama lost to LSU, and this past weekend's Buffalo game with the Texans. Jim clearly tells us Saturn angular on Super Bowl teams with his report is the best % for picking a losing team. The next most important football game I see with SMA Saturn charts angular is with Baltimore Ravens Jan 19 in the AFC Championship game, but I will re-check to see if my memory is correct, and post charts later with Jim's Super Bowl guidelines.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by Veronica » Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:21 am

Gut wrenching is a most perfect term for angular Saturn.

I will check the charts more accurately in the future.
The coming up weekends games look like some great ones.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by SteveS » Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:42 am

V wrote:
The coming up weekends games look like some great ones.

From Jim's 50 Super Bowl Report:
Quotidian progressions of solar ingresses. Contacts to the quotidian progressed angles
of the Capsolar are the single best timing device for major mundane events. (Contacts to the quotidian progressions of the Capsolar are labeled the CapQ). Basically, Saturn angular in the CapQ or transiting a Capsolar angle is nearly, by itself, a guarantee that a team will lose, especially if the opposing team has Jupiter angular.
With Green Bay's Jan 15 2019 Capsolar (Master Chart of the Year), Saturn is partile cnj Capsolar East Point in RA. Although this game is not the Super Bowl but a playoff game to get to the Super Bowl, I strongly suspect this angular Saturn in Green Bay's 2019 Capsolar is a sign that Green Bay has high % they lose their game this Sunday Jan 12 vs Seattle, app end of the game 6:00 PM. If so, for sure this will be Green Bay's Saturn event for their 2019 Capsolar Year, Jan 15 2019 to Jan 15 2020, at least for the very strong fan community of Green Bay.

What is happening in Green Bay's CapQ, a daily chart, for Sunday Jan 12? Green Bay's CapQ Saturn is 1,43 cnj CapQ East Point in RA.

What is happening with Green Bay's opponent, Seattle's CapQ, a daily chart? Seattle's CapQ Venus is partile cnj CapQ East Point.

Green Bay is a 4 point favorite over Seattle with a ML of +170 for Seattle. This is what I term good 'wagering value' for $ on Seattle. But remember statistically Jim's guidelines for his Super Bowl Report allows 16-20% error, but still we have high % Green Bay loses its playoff game Sunday to Seattle. Veronica, I know Green Bay is one of your favorite teams with your hopes Green Bay makes it for a Super Bowl win. But V, with Jim's statistical analysis for 50 past Super Bowls, Green Bay still has app. 20% to win :) .

Jim, if I have misrepresented your Super Bowl report writings, or made any technical astronomical errors---please correct. Thanks

PS, the Vikings game at San Francisco 49ers is a most interesting stack of charts. I will try to post about this game later.

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SteveS wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:42 am
Jim, if I have misrepresented your Super Bowl report writings, or made any technical astronomical errors---please correct.
Please provide the expected end time of the game and what two teams are playing.
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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by SteveS » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:05 pm

Seattle vs Green Bay; app end of game 8:00 PM PST.

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SteveS wrote:
Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:05 pm
Seattle vs Green Bay; app end of game 8:00 PM PST.
January 12?
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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by SteveS » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:31 pm

Yes, Jan 12.

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Re: 2020 super bowl predictions

Post by Veronica » Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:06 pm

Steve
I love football and grew up loving Green Bay because they had a quarterback named Bart Starr and won the first two superbowls. Crazy criteria for a person to pick a team, but those were my reasons.
Mercurcy mars uranus venus and saturn all balled up in a weird little way of making quick decsions about the unusual things I like and being stubborn about those feelings of attraction.

For most of my childhood GB was an awful team and I got picked on for my team coat and hat, esp being a girl. I didnt care then if they won or not, they were winners in my eyes.
So...yea...they will probably loose. They will look good doing it though, they always do.
I wouldnt bet against them though.

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:27 pm

Putting everything in one place: Game climax about January 12, 2020, 8:00 PM, Seattle, WA. Outcome for Green Bay, WI and Seattle, WA.

Year Chart
Seattle (Capsolar): Venus sq. MC (0°16')
Green Bay (Capsolar): Saturn on EP 0°05', Mercury sq. MC 0°32'
Outcome: Green Bay loses. (Unless Seattle also shows losing contacts below, this chart is alone decisive.)

Quarter Chart
Seattle (Libsolar): Mercury Asc 1°17', Venus widely rising
Green Bay (Libsolar): Saturn sq. MC 1°05', Jupiter Asc 1°34', Moon Dsc 0°13', Moon-Jupiter op. 0°34'
Outcome: Green Bay loses (wining Jupiter doesn't undo losing Saturn)

Day (Quotidian)
Seattle (CapQ): p Venus EP 0°03', s Venus EP 1°03', t Mars sq. MC 0°04', p Moon Dsc 1°56'
Green Bay (CapQ): p MC sq. s Saturn 0°34'
Outcome: Green Bay loses

Day (Transits)
Seattle (Capsolar): t Mars sq. MC 1°34'
Green Bay (Cansolar): t Neptune on IC 1°02', t Venus sq. Asc 1°03'
Outcome: Slight, uncertain favoring of Green Bay

There's a lot of Mars for Seattle above. This isn't good or bad by itself. There is even more than shows here, since CanQ Dsc conjoins transiting Mars 0°17'. This suggests an unusually aggressive, rough, hard-fought, war-like game. Also notice that the angular Jupiter on CanQ for Green Bay doesn't count because the CapQ preempts it.

Conclusion:
Green Bay loses. Green Bay loses. Green Bay loses. With a slight, uncertain favoring of Green Bay.

So: Green Bay loses.
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